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== Name of article ==
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:*Free Java Implementations
We must also present roughly java and how it is used such as in programs(=>GJC),javascript(=>runtime)...
Thanks for the thoughts. I do agree that restricting this article to runtimes only seems a bit arbitrary. I like the idea of renaming the article to "Free Java implementation" (note singular, not plural). However, until that is done, this article is still about free Java runtimes, so I removed the text you inserted about compilers and applications. [[User:Haakon|Haakon]] 09:33, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
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I just saw an article on LWN.net which looks like it will provide info on this topic. It's for subscribers only but will be freely available on Dec 1st: http://lwn.net/Articles/258700/
--[[User:Gronky|Gronky]] ([[User talk:Gronky|talk]]) 13:34, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
== Overlap with Java Class Library, IcedTea and OpenJDK ==
Parts of this article overlap with [[OpenJDK]], [[Java Class Library]] and [[IcedTea]]. I'm not clear on what can be done about it though. I don't think the articles can be merged. Should a new article covering the overlapping parts be created? I cross-posted this discussion to all talk pages. --[[User:Chealer|Chealer]] ([[User talk:Chealer|talk]]) 21:40, 18 December 2011 (UTC)
: The articles should not be merged, agreed. They are conceptually separate, albeit tightly inter-related in practice. Methinks the correct place to cover the overlapping parts is right here, in the [[Free Java implementations]] aka FJI article -- IcedTea and IcedTeaWeb are particular instances of FJIs, ditto for GCJ and gnuClasspath. OpenJDK is the normal thing that people mean when they talk about FJI, but it is incomplete (e.g. no java-web-start-plugin-style support without IcedTeaWeb). Therefore, I suggest that this is the place to put summary info, since it encompasses all the others. As the comment below from early 2013 points out, this FJI article is also way out-dated, last messed with in 2009 from what I can see[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Free_Java_implementations&diff=555315531&oldid=339545616], plus a couple sentenced added by yourself (Chealer) in 2011. Turning FJI into a terse situation-overview article, with pointers to the relevant subsections of the openjdk/gcj/icedtea articles which give details, will prolly both improve wikipedia's coverage of the subject and simultaneously keep the FJI article from being neglected in the future. Reason being, FJI has a fuzzy focus at the moment, which overlaps with all the other articles, as you mentioned -- I suggest we narrow the focus to being something about like an extended disambiguation-page, and move most of the meaty contents to the respective sub-articles. Ping me on my talkpage if you think this sounds good, and I will try and make the rough-draft edit. [[Special:Contributions/74.192.84.101|74.192.84.101]] ([[User talk:74.192.84.101|talk]]) 16:08, 26 September 2013 (UTC)
:: Hi. I haven't followed Java at all for a while, and I don't have time to dig back into this problem now, but your suggestion seems good. Thank you --[[User:Chealer|Chealer]] ([[User talk:Chealer|talk]]) 17:24, 26 September 2013 (UTC)
== Article is seriously dated ==
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== Were there legal problems in the 90s? ==
I seem to remember something being licensed by Sun (patents? a specification? other?), but there was a problem that it only covered complete implementations of Java. A notable free software lawyer said that free software Java implementations could indeed use this thing but they could not publish any code (even have a public repository) until their project was a complete implementation of Java.
Does anyone remember what I'm talking about? I'd like to add something about this to the article but I need some keywords so I can do some research. [[User:Gronky|Gronky]] ([[User talk:Gronky|talk]]) 18:48, 25 March 2015 (UTC)
P.S. This might be it or something related: [http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/downloads/jdk-6u22-doc-license-176237.txt Java Language Specification] [[User:Gronky|Gronky]] ([[User talk:Gronky|talk]]) 18:03, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
First "open source Java" releases included proprietary modules that Sun could not replace quickly enough to match the first release date. It took some time to get to that point.
But I guess you refer to another problem, that the Apache Harmony project had : it could not to be called an "official" Java implementation. To have this "title", it had to pass the "test kit" (TCK) associated with the Java JSR. Legal details were not discussed publicly - because of NDAs - but to sum things up the TCK posed constraints on the to-be-Java implementation that were incompatible with the Apache license (and perhaps other open source licenses as well), so Apache Harmony could be an "official" Java implementation but released under a license different from the Apache license, or stay with the Apache license and speak as loud as possible to make Sun change the TCK constraints. Guess who won. See https://blogs.apache.org/foundation/entry/statement_by_the_asf_board1 or http://blog.joda.org/2009_03_01_archive.html [[Special:Contributions/62.201.135.246|62.201.135.246]] ([[User talk:62.201.135.246|talk]]) 14:22, 2 March 2016 (UTC)
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