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I don't believe Python supports [[:Functional programming|Functional programming]], as in [[:Prolog|Prolog]] or somesuch. It supports function-based programming... meaning that your program is just composed of functions not organized into classes and objects. I have gotten the two confused in the past, and I suspect that this is what happened here.

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Or does Python really support functional programming? Is there some add-on package that allows this? I wasn't aware of one. -- [[talk:Ansible|ansible]]

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Yes, Python really does have some built-in functional programming features such as "map()", "filter()", "reduce()" and a somewhat limited "lambda", although I've read that Guido van Rossum now regrets including these features in the language. As a more readable and "Pythonic" alternative, "list comprehensions" were more recently introduced into the language and can often be used instead of the older functional programming constructs.

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:I for one do not believe very much in language purity, and I say that as someone who admires Scheme. Fiddly distinctions such as "object-oriented" vs. "object-based", or "functional" vs. "function-based" vs. "pure-functional" are, simply put, religious disputes. As such, they may merit being mentioned in Wikipedia (as do ''real'' religious disputes) but should not be taken too seriously.

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:I consider functional programming, like object-oriented programming, to be chiefly a style of programming -- i.e. something that programmers do, not something that languages do. A language can ''allow'' a style of programming, or can even attempt to ''mandate'' its use (e.g. Scheme; Java), but it is the program which has a style not the language. It is in this light which I wrote in the subject article that "Object orientation and structured programming are supported, as well as functional programming."

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== GA reassessment ==

:(It is possible to write an imperative-style program in the "functional language" Scheme using <tt>begin</tt> and <tt>do</tt>, or an object-oriented program in the "structured language" ANSI C. It isn't possible to write a functional program in Pascal, though, since you can't pass around functions.)

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:Of course Python does not attempt to be a "pure-functional language" i.e. a language which requires programmers to use functional constructs. Nevertheless, it still permits the style in the large, by (for instance) permitting functions as values, generators, [http://www.ps.uni-sb.de/~duchier/python/continuations.html continuations], etc. --[[User:Fubar Obfusco|FOo]]

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I do not think Python is 'strongly influenced' by Perl. In fact the design philosophy is diametrically opposite in some senses.[[talk:pasokan|pasokan]]

:Let's see -- Python's an interpreted/bytecode-compiled language, with mixed type arrays, garbage collection, hashes/dicts as a basic type, a big standard library with support for Unix calls ... it has a lot in common with Perl. A large portion of the Python user base are "converts" from Perl. Python also ''self-consciously eschews'' Perl-like syntax, which is a different way of being "influenced" by Perl! --[[User:Fubar Obfusco|FOo]]

== Plan for Future Edits ==

# Adding more examples showcasing different paradigms

We could provide Python examples of list comprehensions, lambda functions, map, filter, reduce in a functional programming context.

# Show graph or data of Python popularity in relation to other languages

# Show examples of using performance optimization tools with Python like Numba, Cython, and PyPy

# Running experimental support for running in a free-threaded mode

[[User:MadHanSolo|MadHanSolo]] ([[User talk:MadHanSolo|talk]]) 18:23, 26 March 2025 (UTC)

: Hi {{ping|MadHanSolo}}. Please feel free to add if you think that makes sense. However, keep in mind that Wikipedia is not a [[WP:NOTHOWTO|Howto]] or a set or tutorials so if the code examples become too large, they are likely to get deleted. --[[User:McSly|McSly]] ([[User talk:McSly|talk]]) 18:34, 26 March 2025 (UTC)

:Hi @[[User:MadHanSolo|MadHanSolo]], I can work towards adding in a brief section of performance optimization taking into account the advice from @[[User:McSly|McSly]] about examples. I was briefly going to cover Just-In-Time Compilation, Static Compilation, Concurrency and Parallelism, and Efficient Data Structures. [[User:Chbeast|Chbeast]] ([[User talk:Chbeast|talk]]) 20:15, 29 March 2025 (UTC)

== Problems ==

1, Why does the programing language template doesn't use an [https://www.python.org/community/logos/ offical logo] of Python, like it [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Python_(programming_language)&oldid=1299817513 did before]? [[User:Xzkdeng|Xzkdeng]] ([[User talk:Xzkdeng|talk]]) 08:51, 15 July 2025 (UTC)

== "Batteries included" removed ==

Because in the first reference that was given the term "batteries" doesn't show up anymore, and the second reference is a long-withdrawn PEP. [[User:Jae|jae]] ([[User talk:Jae|talk]]) 12:20, 17 July 2025 (UTC)