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He said, "... below this line." And so this is.
This page is for deleting things in the [[Wikipedia:Template namespace|Template namespace]], which is used for reusable boilerplate messages and article series boxes. Deletion of these may be appropriate if the template:
 
I can donate my liver, I only need one.
* is not helpful or noteworthy;
* is redundant with other templates
* is unused.
* in some cases, if the template is used for inclusion within other templates - see [[Wikipedia:Avoid using meta-templates]]
 
Russian Schmussian
For guidelines on acceptable boilerplate messages, see [[Wikipedia:Template namespace]].<br />
For guidelines on acceptable article series boxes, see [[Wikipedia:Categories, lists, and series boxes]].
 
This Wiki aint '''big''' enough for the x of us
If you vote, please ''give a reason'' how it either does or does not fulfill these criteria. Comments such as "I like it," or "I find it useful," while potentially true, generally do not fulfill this requirement. It also helps if you '''Bold''' your vote.
 
Neat icons with jewish mother rollovers, love it:
In addition to voting "'''Keep'''" or "'''Delete'''," a valid vote on this page is "'''Convert to category'''". In this case, all pages with the template should be added to an appropriately named category, and then the template should be deleted. You could also vote to '''Redirect''' to another template (usually more popular or with a better title). Sometimes an opinion will be to keep the template but fix some perceived problems with it, so some people add "'''Rewrite'''" or "'''Retitle'''" to their comments. Also, some people will specify '''Userfy''', which means to move to a User's subpage.
No line break thingy, though.<br>
Bold<br>
Italic
Internal link<br>
External link with "remember http://prefix"
Level two headline
Embedded image
Media file link
Math formula
Ignore wiki formatting
Signature with time stamp
Horizontal line (rollover: "use sparingly")
 
So here's a great feature:
Templates listed on this page do not need to be orphans prior to listing, and in fact should not be removed from pages prior to listing. However, templates must be removed from all pages prior to deletion. Currently, this can only be done manually.
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--[[Quickdrawartist.com]] 18:55, 5 August 2005 (UTC)
 
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'''Marking templates to be voted on:''' Insert the text <nowiki>{{tfd}}</nowiki> to the top of templates you list here. This adds the following message:
--[[User:67.86.149.148|67.86.149.148]] 18:02, 5 August 2005 (UTC)<nowiki>Insert non-formatted text here</nowiki>[[Media:Example.ogg]][[Image:Example.jpg]]
== Headline text ==
[http://www.example.com link title][[Link title]]''Italic text'''''Bold text'''
interesting how the wikipedia works here
 
{{tfd}}
 
"''You'' were the one, weren't you?"
'''''For clarity, this message should be added inside the box where applicable.''''' When being added to templates which have already been blanked, and are just sitting around as blanks, the message should be added to the template talk page. Again, ''do not blank'' templates to list them here - this is just if the template is already blank when you are listing it.
 
"I don't know what you mean sir!"
Templates that have been listed for more than five days are eligible for deletion if either a consensus to do so has been reached or no objections to its deletion have been raised (disputed- see talk). Such templates should be dealt with as soon as possible.
 
"'''Don't be bothered''', I'm just being silly"
Archived discussions are logged per the instructions at [[Wikipedia:Templates for deletion/Log]], and are located at [[/Log/Deleted]] and [[/Log/Not deleted]].
 
"Oh well, then"
== Listings ==
Please put new listings under [[#{{CURRENTMONTHNAME}} {{CURRENTDAY}}|today's date]] at the '''''top of the section'''''.
 
"Bye"
===May 25===
====[[Template:semi-policy]]====
Deprecated. Use [[Template:Guideline]] instead. [[User:Radiant!|R]][[User_talk:Radiant!|adiant]][[meta:mergist|_*]] 14:08, May 17, 2005 (UTC)
***Had no consensus earlier, but I'm relisting it on grounds that [[:Category:Semi-policy]] has been deleted, and the keep voters hadn't been aware of the fact that semi-pol has simply been ''renamed'' to guideline, which was created about a month ago. [[User:Radiant!|R]][[User_talk:Radiant!|adiant]][[meta:mergist|_*]] 09:06, May 25, 2005 (UTC)
 
"Bye"
* '''Delete''' - [[Wikipedia:semi-policy|semi-policy]] concept said that there are unwritten, common sense rules to which people can be held accountable. Well, if they're unwritten, how can pages on the wiki be so-marked? -- [[User:Netoholic|Netoholic]] [[User talk:Netoholic|@]] 15:37, 2005 May 17 (UTC)
* '''Delete'''. Netoholic's right. [[User:Jdforrester|James F.]] [[User_talk:Jdforrester|(talk)]] 16:20, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Delete'''.--[[User:Mrfixter|Mrfixter]] 16:39, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
* '''Redirect''' [[template:proposed]] -[[User:Stevertigo|SV]]|[[User_talk:Stevertigo|t]] 21:04, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
* <s>'''Delete''', though in these deprication matters I think we do need to accept the need for some "ambiguously policy" tag. Redirect to [[Template:Ambiguous]]</s> '''Keep''' - BlankVerse is right. Don't depricate terms legislatively. [[User:Snowspinner|Snowspinner]] 04:42, May 18, 2005 (UTC)
**Disagree with both redirects - a 'semi-policy' is not usually 'proposed', nor is it 'ambiguous'. [[User:Radiant!|R]][[User_talk:Radiant!|adiant]][[meta:mergist|_*]] 09:50, May 18, 2005 (UTC)
*'''Keep'''. Semi-policy has been "Deprecated" without adequate discussion. Thus deleting this template is setting policy which shouldn't happen here. [[User:BlankVerse|<font color=green>''Blank''</font><font color= #F88017>''Verse''</font>]]<font color=#2554C7> </font>[[User talk:BlankVerse|<font color=#F660AB>&empty;</font> ]] 11:17, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' for reasons explained on [[Wikipedia talk:Semi-policy]]. [[User:Zocky|Zocky]] 16:46, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
* '''Delete''' - To join the majority -[[User:Stevertigo|SV]]|[[User_talk:Stevertigo|t]] 19:10, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
* '''Delete'''. Other existing classifications are sufficient, and adding more just adds confusion. -- [[User:Beland|Beland]] 01:51, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*::It's not not adding one classification, it's deleting one. [[User:BlankVerse|<font color=green>''Blank''</font><font color= #F88017>''Verse''</font>]]<font color=#2554C7> </font>[[User talk:BlankVerse|<font color=#F660AB>&empty;</font> ]] 15:12, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
** I assume [[Template:Semipolicy]] will be deleted as well? (It should be, since it just redirects to Template:Semi-policy.) -- [[User:Beland|Beland]] 02:01, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Keep''': agree with BlankVerse. [[User:Jonathunder|Jonathunder]] 13:47, 2005 May 19 (UTC)
*'''Keep''' --- agree with BlankVerse. This is a sneaky way to undermine the policy process. &mdash; [[User:Xiong|Xiong]][[Special:Emailuser/Xiong|<font color="#997749">&#29066;</font>]][[User talk:Xiong|talk]][[User:Xiong/Metatalk|<font color="#009900">*</font>]] 07:37, 2005 May 21 (UTC)
**In response to the above two votes, please read BlankVerse's talk page; I do believe I have convinced him. Semi-pol hasn't been deprecated, it's been renamed to 'guideline'. [[User:Radiant!|R]][[User_talk:Radiant!|adiant]][[meta:mergist|_*]] 09:17, May 23, 2005 (UTC)
*'''Keep''' I've seen it used [[User:Falphin|Falphin]] 17:47, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
**Read up on what has happened lately - it is no longer used. [[User:Radiant!|R]][[User_talk:Radiant!|adiant]][[meta:mergist|_*]] 07:04, May 24, 2005 (UTC)
 
'''''Anonym'''''
==== [[Template:Olditalic]] ====
Yesterday's entry seems to be gone away somewhat. This template was only for the article [[Old Italic alphabet]], to which I [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Old_Italic_alphabet&diff=0&oldid=14163375 merged the template]. --[[User:PuzzletChung|Puzzlet Chung]] 05:18, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
 
Crazy stuff----
==== [[Template:Weirdness]] ====
Jesus is coming; look busy!
Just because the person listing an article for deletion thinks it's weird doesn't make it unencyclopedic. "Weird" and "strange" are going to appear insulting to newbies. "It is not necessarily nonsense" seems unnecessary. Weirdness should not be a criteria for speedy deletion. [[User:Angela|Angela]][[user talk:Angela|.]] 04:55, May 25, 2005 (UTC)
abc
The sound of the wind in the trees makes me think of these.
The sun is shining outside, but rain is coming. I can feel it in the air.
the mix of the sunshine with the orgis monster hit. i still remember! i can
This feels like there could be a change for everyone.
Reallity is relative (to ones perception)
 
<math>Insert formula here</math>== Totally Random Quotes ==
==== [[Template:Bxscience]] ====
"You have been tried by twelve good men and true, not of your peers but as high above you as heaven is of hell, and they have said you are guilty you bastard.
Template which was created for use on one article and can only ever be used on one article. I have since removed it and put the template code directly in the article. [[User:CryptoDerk|CryptoDerk]] 03:19, May 25, 2005 (UTC)
 
Time will pass and seasons will come and go. Spring with its wavin’ green grass and heaps of sweet-smellin’ flowers on every hill and in every dale. Then sultry Summer, with her shimmerin’ heat-waves on the baked horizon. And Fall, with her yeller harvest moon and the hills growin’ brown and golden under a sinkin’ sun. And finally Winter, with its bitin’, whinin’ wind, and all the land will be mantled with snow.
===May 24===
==== [[Template:GC]] ====
This "general complaint" tag does not make any sense to me, and it appears to be unused. [[User:Tempshill|Tempshill]] 23:49, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Delete'''. I've never seen the point of this template from the beginning; it's useless, uninformative and confusing. I've had idea of TFD'ing it in the back of my mind for months now. <font color=green>[[User:Szyslak|<font color=green>{{IPA|s&#618;zl&#230;k}}</font>]] [ [[User talk:Szyslak|+t]], [[Special:Contributions/Szyslak|+c]] ]</font> 03:11, May 25, 2005 (UTC)
 
But you won’t be here to see any of ‘em; not by a damn sight, because it’s the order of this court that you be took to the nearest tree and hanged by the neck til you’re dead, dead, dead, you olive-colored son of a billy goat."
==== [[Template:User en-!]] ====
-- [[Roy Bean]]
This was apparently lost in VfD since 10 May 2005.--[[User:Nabla|Nabla]] 23:00, 2005 May 24 (UTC)
=== Even More Random Quotes ===
Put this angel's dream in your pipe and smoke it 'til it turns green. (Stud Poker)
 
Why is it so important that you contact the authorities of Earth?"
(begin text moved from [[Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/User en-!]])
 
"Because of death. Because all you of Earth idiots are idiots"
If no one links to this page or uses the template, why is it here? --[[User:BradBeattie|BradBeattie]] 13:12, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
-- from [[Plan 9 From Outer Space]]
 
"Do, or do not. There is no try." -- [[Yoda]]
* '''Delete''' - Seems to serve no useful purpose. [[User:Sukh|Sukh]] 21:20, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Delete'''. Wikipedia is not a soap box. --[[User:EnSamulili|EnSamulili]] 14:30, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
* '''Delete''' But perhaps there should be en-0 for does not use English instead? --[[User:Bobbagum|Bobbagum]] 20:11, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
** &#123;&#123;[[template:user en-0|user en-0]]&#125;&#125; actually does already exist. &mdash; [[User:Knowledge Seeker|Knowledge Seeker]] [[User talk:Knowledge Seeker|&#2470;]] 23:36, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
* What is this user doing on the English Wikipedia, then? '''Delete'''. &#8212;[[User:Mirv|Charles&nbsp;P.]][[User talk:Mirv|&nbsp;<small>(Mirv)</small>]] 23:14, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
(end text moved from ''Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/User en-!'')
* '''Delete''' as per above. [[User:Zscout370|Zscout370]] [[User_talk:Zscout370|(Sound Off)]] 23:23, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
* '''BJAODN''' (note the '''D''' in that). --<span style="font-family:monospace">&nbsp;[[User:Grm_wnr|grm_wnr]] </span>[[User_talk:Grm_wnr|<span style="border:1px solid;color:black;font-size:9px;padding:2px 1px 0px 1px">Esc</span>]] 23:48, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
* '''Delete''', not useful, and don't put it on BJAODN, because it's hard to find anything really funny there anymore and this would dilute it further, etc. [[User:Tempshill|Tempshill]] 23:50, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
* '''Delete'''. Move to BJAODN if qualified as a bad parody. --[[User:PuzzletChung|Puzzlet Chung]] 04:47, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''BJAODN'''. [[User:Radiant!|R]][[User_talk:Radiant!|adiant]][[meta:mergist|_*]] 07:44, May 25, 2005 (UTC)
*'''BJAODN'''. Got a chuckle out of it. [[User:Sjakkalle|Sjakkalle]] 07:48, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
 
"I don't avoid the company of women, Mandrake. I just don't give them my fluids." -- [[Gen. Jack T. Ripper]] from [[Dr. Strangelove, or How I Quit Worrying and Learned to Love the Bomb]]
====[[:Template:Limitedgeographicscope]]====
Offensive POV. For a new user to come and see this slapped on their article would be a major turnoff. It also perpetuates an unsupported contention that there is systemic bias in Wikipedia. [[User:RickK|Rick]][[User talk:RickK|K]] 23:22, May 24, 2005 (UTC)
 
"Roses are grey, violets are grey, everything is grey, becuse I`m dead and colour blind." -- Male Undead Quote from [[World of Warcraft]]
*'''Delete.''' We can find ways to bridge the various geographical divides on Wikipedia, but this is not the way. [[User:Zscout370|Zscout370]] [[User_talk:Zscout370|(Sound Off)]] 23:25, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Keep.''' It is phrased in a non-offensive way and it serves to make clear that an article can be limited in scope. I don't see what's POV here, let alone what's offensive. I've never seen it being slapped on brand new articles; it has done good work in making editors aware of the fact that many seemingly well-developed articles still can have large gaps. Just an hour ago (before this TFD nomination) I added it to [[Beekeeping]], which is actually a rather nice article, but which unfortunately overlooks the history of bee-keeping and the phenomenon of bee-keeping in the non-Western world. Also, I fail to see why the inherent systemic bias of Wikipedia would be an 'unsupported contention'. I'm working in the field of African languages and linguistics. I could create and expand lots of articles every day, week after week, on subjects in that area that absolutely need to be covered by any encyclopedia. What is that, other than the clear result of systemic bias? &mdash; [[User:Mark Dingemanse|mark]] [[User Talk:Mark Dingemanse|&#9998;]] 23:46, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*There has been claims by users on here that there is some type of geographical bias on here, that many articles are slanted in a American/English/Aussie/Canadian point of view. What Rick is saying that by slapping this template on various pages, it is saying that this idea is very true, thus turning off users who might come from areas where they might not have our viewpoint, so they will go away. [[User:Zscout370|Zscout370]] [[User_talk:Zscout370|(Sound Off)]] 23:56, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
**Are you really saying that users having a different viewpoint or coming from a different part of the world would go away because of this template? To the contrary, I think it encourages them to contribute to make the article more comprehensive in scope. &mdash; [[User:Mark Dingemanse|mark]] [[User Talk:Mark Dingemanse|&#9998;]] 00:02, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Keep'''. This template should be used more often. For one, it warns readers that the article they are reading is centred on, well, usually the Western world. If anything, another template should be created, to allow for explanatory text. -- [[User:Ec5618|Ec5618]] 00:36, May 25, 2005 (UTC)
*'''Delete''', we don't need templates for everything. <font color=green>[[User:Szyslak|<font color=green>{{IPA|s&#618;zl&#230;k}}</font>]] [ [[User talk:Szyslak|+t]], [[Special:Contributions/Szyslak|+c]] ]</font> 03:16, May 25, 2005 (UTC)
*'''Delete''', bad idea. We already have too many cleanup-related mechanisms, and that means that something tagged for some-kind-of-cleanup is unlikely to become noticed. That is a [[bad thing]]. [[User:Radiant!|R]][[User_talk:Radiant!|adiant]][[meta:mergist|_*]] 09:02, May 25, 2005 (UTC)
*'''Comments'''
#Note that this template is tied to [[WP:Bias|WikiProject Countering Systemic Bias]]; articles tagged for this ''are'' noticed by participants of this project. In other words, unlike some comments here suggest, this template is not floating around in space or going unnoticed.
#I also want to point out that there is a subtle difference from cleanup here: articles like [[Shopping cart]], [[Water resources]], or [[Sociology of clothing]] wouldn't seem in need to be tagged for cleanup. In fact, the articles look generally well written, properly wikified, referenced even &mdash; but the limitedgeographicscope tag is there to point out that the articles give the impression that the subject only occurs in, or is only relevant to, the United States or the Western world. This is important to point out, because sometimes editors are not sufficiently aware that they are writing for a much larger audience than the States or the broader Western world (cf. [http://mail.wikipedia.org/pipermail/wikipedia-l/2005-March/038102.html what Jimbo said] about our goal). &mdash; [[User:Mark Dingemanse|mark]] [[User Talk:Mark Dingemanse|&#9998;]] 09:45, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
 
"Its not the fall that kills you, its the sudden stop at the end."
===May 23===
==== [[Template:Video Editing]] ====
A useless (category already served same purpose) and biased (named as "Video Editing" but only some of the NLEs are listed) navigational template. It also once messed up with the [[:category:lists of software]] (now fixed). --[[User:Minghong|minghong]] 11:17, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Delete''', would be better as a category. - [[User:SimonP|SimonP]] 17:12, May 24, 2005 (UTC)
 
"babo" hA
==== [[Template:Npovs]] ====
Yet another miniature version of an existing template ([[Template:NPOV]]) from [[User:Stevertigo]]. -- [[User:Netoholic|Netoholic]] [[User talk:Netoholic|@]] 20:33, 2005 May 17 (UTC)
* '''Keep''' - will discuss its use with the [[WP:NPOV|NPOV]] regulars - to counter [[WP:HT|Template madness]] -[[User:Stevertigo|SV]]|[[User_talk:Stevertigo|t]] 21:04, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
** Please do discuss with them, but carry that discussion on the talk page of the original template. We only need one to perform this function, whatever size is agreed upon. -- [[User:Netoholic|Netoholic]] [[User talk:Netoholic|@]] 21:17, 2005 May 17 (UTC)
*'''Delete''', one template per purpose, [[User:Radiant!|R]][[User_talk:Radiant!|adiant]][[meta:mergist|_*]] 21:58, May 17, 2005 (UTC)
*'''Delete''': redundant...but certainly discuss with the NPOV regulars. --[[User:TenOfAllTrades|TenOfAllTrades]] <small>([[User_talk:TenOfAllTrades|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/TenOfAllTrades|contrib]])</small> 23:38, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' [[User:Oleg Alexandrov|Oleg Alexandrov]] 07:27, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Keep''' -- Useful tool. &mdash; [[User:Xiong|Xiong]][[Special:Emailuser/Xiong|<font color="#997749">&#29066;</font>]][[User talk:Xiong|talk]][[User:Xiong/Metatalk|<font color="#009900">*</font>]] 07:40, 2005 May 21 (UTC)
*'''Keep''' - is less obtrusive than the NPOV one while still marking that there is a dispute. [[User:Abeo Paliurus|Abeo]]<small> POV: [[User talk:Abeo Paliurus|Jesus is the Christ]]</small> 13:36, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' - No need for miniatures. [[User:Andros 1337|Andros 1337]] 04:08, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
**I'm relisting this at the top since it doesn't have consensus now, ''even if'' most other 'smaller' templates have had consensus to delete. Please disucss. [[User:Radiant!|R]][[User_talk:Radiant!|adiant]][[meta:mergist|_*]] 08:43, May 24, 2005 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' deliberate template forks. Inline on [[Template talk:POV]] first, though. &mdash;[[User:Korath|Korath]] ([[User talk:Korath|Talk]]) 15:32, May 24, 2005 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' No duplicates. --[[User:Minghong|minghong]] 16:03, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Delete'''. There should only be one template for each administrative purpose. Feel free to discuss revisions on the original template Talk pages, the Pump, and/or via an RFC. --[[User:TenOfAllTrades|TenOfAllTrades]] <small>([[User_talk:TenOfAllTrades|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/TenOfAllTrades|contrib]])</small> 16:31, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Delete'''. The NPOV warning ''should'' be obtrusive. [[User:Kelly Martin|Kelly Martin]] 18:22, May 24, 2005 (UTC)
*'''Delete'''. No duplicates. &mdash; [[User:Mark Dingemanse|mark]] [[User Talk:Mark Dingemanse|&#9998;]] 00:03, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Delete'''. There are already too many templates. I'm scared of them. I'm going to go hide. -[[User:Joshuapaquin|Joshuapaquin]] 04:14, May 25, 2005 (UTC)
 
"Let us endeavor so to live [that] when we come to die even the undertaker will be sorry." -- [[Mark Twain]], Pudd'nhead Wilson's Calendar
==== [[Template:Protecteds]], and also [[Template:Tfds]] ====
Barely in use, and redundant with [[Template:Protected]] and [[Template:Tfd]] respectively. The creator believes in smaller versions of existing templates. That may or may not be a good idea, but it should be discussed (for instance here, or on the village pump) before xe unilaterally forks off new templates. [[User:Radiant!|R]][[User_talk:Radiant!|adiant]][[meta:mergist|_*]] 19:01, May 12, 2005 (UTC)
:The creator has put up [[Wikipedia:Template standardisation/Sizes]] to discuss the layout of the templates. That sounds good to me, but I hold that we should not have two different templates for the same function. [[User:Radiant!|R]][[User_talk:Radiant!|adiant]][[meta:mergist|_*]] 19:42, May 12, 2005 (UTC)
 
"If there's nothing wrong with me, there must be [[something]] wrong with the [[universe]]." -- [[Beverly Crusher]] from [[Star Trek: The Next Generation]]
* '''Delete''' - The creator split these off because he has been repeatedly reverted (see history of [[Template:Tfd]]) and hasn't made a convincing arguement for change. I'm ready to file an RFC if he doesn't stop with this disruption. -- [[User:Netoholic|Netoholic]] [[User talk:Netoholic|@]] 20:35, 2005 May 12 (UTC)
*'''Keep''' I think Ive made a convincing argument, and Im glad that both of you have repeated these. I have not heard a convincing counterargument though &mdash;just assertions that 'verbosity is inherently superiour,' that 'there should be pre-consensus for anything to exist,' and that anything being Bold only applies if there is consensus &mdash;which is somehow best represented by the bottom feeding crew. Perhaps VFD pages serve a function other than giving people the kinky satisfaction of deleting something, but Im not quite sure what that is ATP. -[[User:Stevertigo|SV]]|[[User_talk:Stevertigo|t]] 21:40, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
** Dude, "being bold" is fine right up until someone tells you you're doing something wrong. After that, continuing to do the wrong thing and then invoking "being bold" is inappropriate. -- [[User:Netoholic|Netoholic]] [[User talk:Netoholic|@]] 21:49, 2005 May 12 (UTC)
***On the TFD template, there were four people sufficiently opposed to your proposal to revert, and I haven't seen any support as of yet. Being bold is laudable, but consensus appears opposed to this particular suggestion. As a side point, I oppose having two different template forks ''a lot stronger'' than I oppose your revision of the TFD template. The latter is a matter of taste, the former of principle. [[User:Radiant!|R]][[User_talk:Radiant!|adiant]][[meta:mergist|_*]] 07:44, May 13, 2005 (UTC)
*'''Move''' to userspace for further discussion. -[[User:MarSch|MarSch]] 14:23, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
* '''Comment''' well Im glad that the idea of choice is being considered. - Again, the apparent 'there should be pre-consensus for anything to exist' argument is a silly one, particularly if it suggests a ''process bias'' where the munch crew is much more keen to delete than make changes, Dude. -[[User:Stevertigo|SV]]|[[User_talk:Stevertigo|t]] 05:06, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
**Nobody claims there should be pre-consensus for anything to exist. Simple fact is that you want the existing template changed, and at present the majority opposes. That has nothing to do with process bias. [[User:Radiant!|R]][[User_talk:Radiant!|adiant]][[meta:mergist|_*]] 16:22, May 14, 2005 (UTC)
**I'm relisting this at the top since it doesn't have consensus now, ''even if'' most other 'smaller' templates have had consensus to delete. Please disucss. [[User:Radiant!|R]][[User_talk:Radiant!|adiant]][[meta:mergist|_*]] 08:43, May 24, 2005 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' deliberate template forks. Inline on [[Template talk:Protected]] and [[Template talk:Tfd]] first, though. &mdash;[[User:Korath|Korath]] ([[User talk:Korath|Talk]]) 15:30, May 24, 2005 (UTC)
*'''Delete'''. We should have one template per administrative purpose. Feel free to discuss on the original template's talk; there's certainly an argument to be made for more concise/less visually obtrusive templates. --[[User:TenOfAllTrades|TenOfAllTrades]] <small>([[User_talk:TenOfAllTrades|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/TenOfAllTrades|contrib]])</small> 16:29, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
 
"KLINKERPOOP"
====All old VFD pages in Template namespace====
 
"Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside a dog it's too dark to read." -- [[Groucho Marx]]
Listed at [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3AAllpages&from=VfD&namespace=10], [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Allpages&from=VfD-LambofGodMusic&namespace=10], and [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Allpages&from=VfD-Y-windows&namespace=10]. Maybe they should be all moved somewhere, or archived, but I believe the precedent on this page is to delete individual pages. [[User:Smoddy|Smoddy]] [[User talk:Smoddy|(Rabbit and pork)]] 20:36, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*Has been mentioned before, and I do think most people support the deletion; however given the sheer amount of work this would be best done by bot. It's been listed at [[Wikipedia:Bot requests]] for awhile, but nobody much seems ever to respond to that. Maybe I'll just have to ask someone personally if he has spare time. [[User:Radiant!|R]][[User_talk:Radiant!|adiant]][[meta:mergist|_*]] 06:59, May 24, 2005 (UTC)
 
Civilizations die from suicide, not by murder. [[Arnold Toynbee]]
====[[Template:Revenue]]====
I created this template to expedite the entry of revenue into the [[Template:Infobox Company|company infobox]]. I did not realize however, that one cannot pass a template as a parameter because the curly braces interfere with the parent template. This template is now useless. &mdash; <font color="#cc0000">''oo64eva (Alex)'' </font><sup>([[User: oo64eva|U]] | [[User_talk:Oo64eva|T]] | [[Special:Contributions/Oo64eva|C]])</sup> @ 16:13, May 23, 2005 (UTC)
 
"Live long and die later"
:Speedied [[User:BrokenSegue|'''B'''roken]][[User talk:BrokenSegue|'''S'''egue]] 23:01, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
 
I have never knowingly eaten human faeces.
 
err--right
 
"It just goes to show that one person ''can'' make a difference, but most of the time, they probably shouldn't" -- [[Marge Simpson]]
====[[Template:Sub-stub]] and [[Template:Substubs]]====
Wow...deja vu! These two are currently redirects to [[Template:Stub]], but the first is only used on four articles (soon to be recategorised) and the second isn't used at all. Both invite the risk of someone restoring [[Template:Substub]] - which actually happened (and was speedy-deleted) earlier today. [[User:Grutness|Grutness]]...<font color=green><small>''[[User_talk:Grutness|wha?''</small></font>]] 11:33, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Delete'''. Deja vu indeed. --[[User:TheParanoidOne|TheParanoidOne]] 12:03, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''D'''. [[User:Steinsky|Joe D]] [[User talk:Steinsky|(t)]] 12:43, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''elete'''. [[User:Radiant!|R]][[User_talk:Radiant!|adiant]][[meta:mergist|_*]] 13:11, May 23, 2005 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' [[User:BlankVerse|<font color=green>''Blank''</font><font color= #F88017>''Verse''</font>]]<font color=#2554C7> </font>[[User talk:BlankVerse|<font color=#F660AB>&empty;</font> ]] 13:54, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Begone''', foul fiend, to the crypt from whence you camest. --<span style="font-family:monospace">&nbsp;[[User:Grm_wnr|grm_wnr]] </span>[[User_talk:Grm_wnr|<span style="border:1px solid;color:black;font-size:9px;padding:2px 1px 0px 1px">Esc</span>]] 14:27, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Hey''', what happened to substubs and how do I mark a substub when someone writes one? When [[Template:Substub]] was deleted? Either way, I disagree with its deletion, substubs are not stubs and should be kept separately. [[User:Grue|Grue]] 19:57, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
**<nowiki><</nowiki>[[snark (speech)|snark]]<nowiki>>{{delete}}</snark></nowiki> -- [[User:Cyrius|Cyrius]]|[[User talk:Cyrius|&#9998;]] 20:43, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
***Sorry Grue, but per [[WP:WSS]] it's going to be [[fait accompli]] on this one. Mark substubs as regular stubs, so they can be put in the appropriate stub category for faster expansion. There used to be thousands of stubs and substubs, now less than a hundred. Yay WSS! [[User:Radiant!|R]][[User_talk:Radiant!|adiant]][[meta:mergist|_*]] 21:04, May 23, 2005 (UTC)
****Not ''quite'' yet, but we're getting there. The number of uncategorised stubs has gone from about 31,000 stubs and substubs to under 5500, though. Give us a couple of weeks :) [[User:Grutness|Grutness]]...<font color=green><small>''[[User_talk:Grutness|wha?''</small></font>]] 07:01, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*****(taking off my pink sunglasses...) [[User:Radiant!|R]][[User_talk:Radiant!|adiant]][[meta:mergist|_*]] 08:57, May 24, 2005 (UTC)
*'''Redirect''' to [[Template:Delete]] to train folks not to use variants of <nowiki>{{substub}}</nowiki> anymore. &mdash;[[User:Korath|Korath]] ([[User talk:Korath|Talk]]) 15:25, May 24, 2005 (UTC)
 
"You may have seen a housefly, maybe even a superfly, but I bet you ain't never seen a Donkey fly!!" - Donkey (Shrek)
====[[Template:Table suffixes]]====
Since it has no meaningful ordering other than alphabetic (nor can I conceive of one) this should be changed to a '''category''' instead. [[User:Radiant!|R]][[User_talk:Radiant!|adiant]][[meta:mergist|_*]] 09:20, May 23, 2005 (UTC)
*'''Delete''', better served by a category. - [[User:SimonP|SimonP]] 17:13, May 24, 2005 (UTC)
 
"It's all fun until someone gets hurt. Then it's hilarious!" -- Billie Joe Armstrong
====[[:Template:Hrwiki]]====
Advertising for a non-Wikipedia partner. Why should Homestar Runner get such extravagant publicity? Add the link to the Wiki in the External Links. [[User:RickK|Rick]][[User talk:RickK|K]] 05:58, May 24, 2005 (UTC)
*'''delete''' - I saw the name and thought it was going to be a link to Croatian Wikipedia! [[User:Grutness|Grutness]]...<font color=green><small>''[[User_talk:Grutness|wha?''</small></font>]] 07:03, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''delete'': spam. [[User:Steinsky|Joe D]] [[User talk:Steinsky|(t)]] 14:22, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Delete'''. Advertising. --[[User:TheParanoidOne|TheParanoidOne]] 15:07, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*A sistertemplate for a non-sisterproject. '''Delete''' it till it glows. &mdash;[[User:Korath|Korath]] ([[User talk:Korath|Talk]]) 15:22, May 24, 2005 (UTC)
**Question: If this template is deleted, then what will happen to <nowiki>{{memoryalpha}}</nowiki> template? Plus, Grutness, people will usually Wikilink to the Croatian Wikipedia by placing hr:the title of the page in Croatian, at the bottom of the page. [[User:Zscout370|Zscout370]] [[User_talk:Zscout370|(Sound Off)]] 23:29, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*Yeah, I know that... but the name could well have been a template saying something like "This article has been translated approximately from an article in the Croation Wikipedia - please help us by correcting any grammatical errors." [[User:Grutness|Grutness]]...<font color=green><small>''[[User_talk:Grutness|wha?''</small></font>]]
* I ([[User:metaeducation]]) made this template because there's crazy duplication between the homestar runner wiki and the wikipedia. I've outlined issues in [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Hrwiki]], which it seems no one voting here has read. I think that keeping it as a template rather than a simple link is ideal, if for no other reason than to provide a placeholder for discussion about how to distribute the work between the two efforts. Whether the template renders fancy or not is part of the question of how relevant it is to guide people toward the site. If there is something HRwiki has to do in order to become a sister project, can we investigate that process? I'm going ahead and demoting it to a less-obtrusive form now that the discussion is started, but please think of how to outline a policy for content distribution and where to outline the policy. The template seems like a good place to start. (P.S. seriously, how many of the above people read the talk page for the template before weighing in on its deletion? doesn't that seem like a MINIMAL pre-requisite to voting, so that the problem that the template is attempting to address may at least be considered?)
 
==And now for something completely different==
===May 22===
====[[Template:Intro/1]]====
nonreusable. Should be substituted. Same goes for these templates: {{tl|Intro/unselected}}, {{tl|Intro/selected}}, {{tl|Intro/1}} and {{tl|Intro/2}}, {{tl|Intro/3}}. --[[User:MarSch|MarSch]] 17:12, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*Would [[Wikipedia:Introduction]] work properly if all of these were substituted? &#8212;[[User:Mirv|Charles&nbsp;P.]][[User talk:Mirv|&nbsp;<small>(Mirv)</small>]] 07:36, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*The idea is to stop them being accidentally removed. '''Keep'''. [[User:Smoddy|Smoddy]] [[User talk:Smoddy|(Rabbit and pork)]] 09:18, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*It seems that the sandbox pages use things like [[Template:Please leave this line alone]], which use a ''metatemplate'' such as the above. For the sake of server load, I'd prefer a different solution. '''Merge/subst/whatever but get rid of it''' [[User:Radiant!|R]][[User_talk:Radiant!|adiant]][[meta:mergist|_*]] 10:56, May 23, 2005 (UTC)
**Then find a better solution. It's one thing to yell "find a better solution, find a better solution", but quite another to '''get''' a better solution. [[User:Smoddy|Smoddy]] [[User talk:Smoddy|(Rabbit and pork)]] 10:59, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
***True enough. Okay, I propose to subst everything into three templates with titles like [[Template:Please leave this line alone]]. I also propose to do it myself if this discussion yields concurrence. [[User:Radiant!|R]][[User_talk:Radiant!|adiant]][[meta:mergist|_*]] 11:14, May 23, 2005 (UTC)
****Seems reasonable. I understand now. [[User:Smoddy|Smoddy]] [[User talk:Smoddy|(Rabbit and pork)]] 12:50, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
 
===A man with a tape recorder up his nose===
====[[Template:Vip]]====
copy of {{tl|user}}. Stands for Vandalism in Progress. --[[User:MarSch|MarSch]] 16:43, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
 
====A man with a tape recorder up his brother's nose====
:As the creator of the template, I don't object to it being deleted. But there are [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Whatlinkshere&target=Template%3AVip quite some pages] where it is used, so that should be cleaned up first. --[[User:ContiE|Conti]]|[[User talk:ContiE|&#9993;]] 23:14, May 22, 2005 (UTC)
*It could be replaced with a redirect. [[User:Radiant!|R]][[User_talk:Radiant!|adiant]][[meta:mergist|_*]] 09:05, May 23, 2005 (UTC)
*'''Redirect''' to {{tl|user}} just like {{tl|vandal}} does. [[User:Zzyzx11|Zzyzx11]] [[User talk:Zzyzx11|(Talk)]] 23:09, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Redirect''' to the vandal template. [[User:Zscout370|Zscout370]] [[User_talk:Zscout370|(Sound Off)]] 23:27, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Redirect''' to the user template, not the vandal template since that would be a double redirect. [[User:Sjakkalle|Sjakkalle]] 07:49, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
 
[[Foetus (band)]]
====[[Template:Tc]]====
[[Patristics]]
unused and unuseful --[[User:MarSch|MarSch]] 16:16, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Delete''', trivial. For those templates whose display is significantly mangled when looking at their Template: pages, just use <nowiki>{{msgnw:Ed}}</nowiki> on the talk pages. &mdash;[[User:Korath|Korath]] ([[User talk:Korath|Talk]]) 15:20, May 24, 2005 (UTC)
 
Ahhh! Wikipedia! Too complex for my noobish mind! I'm so confused!
====[[Template:Moveto]]====
Deprecated by {{tl|move}} and the [[WP:RM]] process. There are no systems in place to deal with a "moveto" tag. [[User:Violetriga|violet/riga]] [[User_talk:violetriga|(t)]] 13:15, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Redirect''' to {{tl|move}} since it is deprecated by {{tl|move}}. [[User:Zzyzx11|Zzyzx11]] [[User talk:Zzyzx11|(Talk)]] 23:11, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
 
====[[Template:AU-bio-stub]]====
Badly named duplicate of [[Template:Australia-bio-stub]]. Redirect is possible, but not desirable (WP:WSS is trying to reduce the number of redirects, since they cause yet more server slowdown). [[User:Grutness|Grutness]]...<font color=green><small>''[[User_talk:Grutness|wha?''</small></font>]] 10:50, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Delete'''. per [[WP:WSS]] guidelines. [[User:BlankVerse|<font color=green>''Blank''</font><font color= #F88017>''Verse''</font>]]<font color=#2554C7> </font>[[User talk:BlankVerse|<font color=#F660AB>&empty;</font> ]] 17:22, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
====[[Template:AU-actor-stub]], [[Template:FR-actor-stub]], [[Template:SE-actor-stub]]====
As above, these are redirects, but incompatible with any of the naming standards used by WP:WSS, and redirects of heavy-use templates are a cause of server slowdown. Of the three, only FR-actor-stub is heavily used (about 75 articles). The others are depopulated. [[User:Grutness|Grutness]]...<font color=green><small>''[[User_talk:Grutness|wha?''</small></font>]] 11:22, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
**FR-actor-stub is now depopulated as well. [[User:Grutness|Grutness]]...<font color=green><small>''[[User_talk:Grutness|wha?''</small></font>]] 04:08, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Delete'''. per [[WP:WSS]] guidelines. [[User:BlankVerse|<font color=green>''Blank''</font><font color= #F88017>''Verse''</font>]]<font color=#2554C7> </font>[[User talk:BlankVerse|<font color=#F660AB>&empty;</font> ]] 17:20, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
 
Test
===May 21===
====[[Template:Fridtjof Nansen class frigate]]====
'''Delete''', no longer used. For a short time there were seperate articles for each vessel in this frigate class with essentially all duplicated info, that info is now collected in the common article for this class. -- [[User:Egil|Egil]] 05:22, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*''Delete''' as unused --[[User:MarSch|MarSch]] 17:30, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Delete'''. It was a good template when each ship had separate articles, but it is no longer needed. [[User:Sjakkalle|Sjakkalle]] 07:29, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
 
and another test
====[[Template:VfD-BunchofXena]] and [[Template:VfD-HollowayCA]]====
These look like more mistakenly created votes in the template namespace. Does this happen a lot, or am I missing something? The similar names worry me that either 1) this is supposed to happen and I'm wasting your time, or 2) there's more out there and we should do a comprehensive search. So, what's up? --[[User:Dmcdevit|Dmcdevit]] 17:07, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
*See [[Wikipedia:VfD votes in the Template namespace]]. &#8212;[[User:Mirv|Charles&nbsp;P.]][[User talk:Mirv|&nbsp;<small>(Mirv)</small>]] 17:20, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
**Oh, OK, I was beginning to suspect as much. Thank you. --[[User:Dmcdevit|Dmcdevit]] 17:26, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
 
and yet another test
====[[Template:Nointernal]]====
A less obnoxious version of [[Template:Noimage]] that was created by an anon and is completely unused. [[User:BlankVerse|<font color=green>''Blank''</font><font color= #F88017>''Verse''</font>]]<font color=#2554C7> </font>[[User talk:BlankVerse|<font color=#F660AB>&empty;</font> ]] 07:05, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' [[User:BlankVerse|<font color=green>''Blank''</font><font color= #F88017>''Verse''</font>]]<font color=#2554C7> </font>[[User talk:BlankVerse|<font color=#F660AB>&empty;</font> ]] 07:05, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
====[[Template:Cobauth]]====
Not used anywhere. Unless any use can be found for it, <b>delete</b>. - [[User:Mike Rosoft|Mike Rosoft]] 06:39, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
*'''Delete'''. Designed for [[Creatures]] [[fancruft]]. [[User:BlankVerse|<font color=green>''Blank''</font><font color= #F88017>''Verse''</font>]]<font color=#2554C7> </font>[[User talk:BlankVerse|<font color=#F660AB>&empty;</font> ]] 07:05, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
 
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Testing out a box for a naval entry..
==Holding Cell==
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''Move templates '''here''' to prepare to delete '''if''' process guidelines are met.''
|colspan="2"|[[Image:|300px|Something To Describe]]
 
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*'''Consensus for delete''' for the below (all discussions have been moved to the log page)
! style="color: white; height: 30px; background: navy;"| Career
** [[Template:New TFD]] <s>(and redirect at [[Template:TFDNotice]])</s>
! style="color: white; height: 30px; background: navy;"| [[image:usnjack.png|United States Navy Jack]]
** [[:Template:Cfd-howto]]
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** [[Template:Comicbookpub-stub]]
|Ordered:
** [[Template:Pnpov-d]]
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** [[Template:Pseudoprotected]]
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** [[Template:Keydrive internals]]
|Laid down:
** [[Template:Helpout]]
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** [[Template:Boxstub]]
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** [[Template:Protectedf]], [[Template:Protectedsmall]], [[Template:Protected/sandbox]] and also **[[Template:Vprotected-s]]
|Launched:
** [[Template:Vfdbecause]], [[Template:Neologism]], [[Template:Povfork]], **[[Template:Lacksnotability]]
|[[19 December]] [[1942]]
** [[Template:lgbt]]
|-
** [[Template:Notpolicy]]
|Commissioned:
** [[Template:Tfdss]]
|[[21 April]] [[1944]]
** [[Template:Cleanups]]
|-
** [[Template:Current-s]]
|Decommissioned:
** [[Template:Valid]]
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**[[Template:2005Calendar]] through [[Template:2024Calendar]]
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** [[Template:Rfmf]], [[Template:Rfm]]
|Struck:
** [[Template:WikiProject:Community]]
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** [[Template:Ambiguous]]
|-
** [[Template:Noimage]]
|Fate:
** [[Template:See also2]], [[Template:See2]]
|[[Buffalo Naval and Servicemen's Park]], <br/>[[Buffalo, New York]]
** [[Template:Project usage]]
|-
** [[Template:ZIMf]]
!colspan="2" style="color: white; height: 30px; background: navy;"| General Characteristics
** [[Template:EU 10]] and [[Template:EU coins]]
|-
** [[Template:history]]
|Displacement:
** [[Template:USculture]]
|1,526 tons
** [[Template:PD-MNGov]]
|-
** [[Template:Standard template style]]
|Length:
** [[Template:GenericCountryStub]] and its redirect [[Template:GCS|GCS]]
|311 ft 9 in
** [[Template:GenericCountryStubDetail]] and its redirect [[Template:GCSD|GCSD]]
|-
** [[Template:2stub]]
|Beam:
** [[Template:Clear soup]]
|27 ft 3 in
** [[Template:Importantstub]] and the redirect [[Template:Important-stub]]
|-
** [[Template:Comp-wikify]]
|Draft:
** [[Template:Commons3]]
|15 ft 3 in
 
|-
*'''Nobody objected''' (or even responded) to nomination for the below (all discussions have been moved to the log page)
|Propulsion:
** [[Template:NNDB]]
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** [[Template:Vfds]]
|-
** [[Template:Template_messages]]
|Speed:
** [[Template:PD-Germany]]
|20 knots
 
|-
*'''Consensus for delete, with userfy as an option''' for the below (all discussions have been moved to the log page)
|Range:
** [[Template:Box]] (already userfied)
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** [[Template:Color dot]]
|-
** [[Template:Wiki]]
|Complement:
** [[Template:Smoothhenry]]
|60
 
|-
 
|Armament:
===To orphan===
|1 3", 10 &times; 21 in torpedo tubes
These templates need to be deleted, but may still be in use on some pages. Somebody (it doesn't need to be an admin, anyone can do it) should remove them from pages so that they can be deleted.
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|Motto:
;[[Template:Sejm Marshals]]
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* Is this really to be deleted? It has no {TfD] tag, and a large number of pages link to it. [[User:Jnc|Noel]] [[User_talk:Jnc|(talk)]] 20:01, 29 Jan 2005 (UTC)
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** There certainly wasn't a consensus to delete, so whoever moved it to the holding cell needs a spanking. I've put the discussion on the template talk page. (The '''Divide''' has been done already) &mdash; [[User:MikeX|MikeX]] [[User Talk:MikeX|(talk)]] 20:51, Jan 30, 2005 (UTC)
*<s>Since the "divide" in effect created other templates, this one is no longer needed. orphan and delete it.--[[User:Jiang|Ji]][[User talk:Jiang|ang]] 06:42, 2 Mar 2005 (UTC)</s>
*actually, the divide has not been done already. it needs to be done. --[[User:Jiang|Ji]][[User talk:Jiang|ang]] 02:25, 13 Mar 2005 (UTC)
 
===To convert to category===
Templates for which the consensus is that they ought to be converted to categories get put here until the conversion is completed.
* ''None at present''
 
===Ready to delete===
Templates for which consensus to delete has been reached, have been orphaned, and the discussion logged to [[Wikipedia:Templates for deletion/Log/Deleted]], can be listed here for an admin to delete.
 
; [[Template:Manga]]
*It's been orphaned, and discussion has been logged. - [[User:Mako098765|mak]]''[[User_talk:Mako098765|o]]'' 18:31, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
 
== Listings to log ==
''Templates with completed discussions which have not yet been logged; remove from'' '''''this''''' ''page entirely when logged. Anyone can do this, not just an admin; please see the directions at [[Wikipedia:Templates for deletion/Log]].''
 
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