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'''Ann Miller''' was born on [[April 12]], [[1923]] (some sources still indicate [[1919]]) and died on [[January 22]], [[2004]]. She was an American dancer, singer and actress, who was christened '''Johnnie Lucille Collier''' in [[Chireno, Texas]] (some sources cite [[Houston, Texas]]).
''See also:'' [[Wikipedia utilities/Old Page titles to be deleted talk]] and [[Wikipedia:Utilities]]
 
She was considered a child dance prodigy. She was given a contract with [[RKO]] allegedly at the tender age of thirteen (she had told them she was eighteen). She became famous for her roles in films such as [[Kiss Me, Kate]], [[Easter Parade]] and [[On the Town]]. Miller was famed for her speed in [[tap dancing]]; she claimed to be able to tap 500 times per minute.
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Her father (from whom she would become estranged due to his infidelities to her mother) insisted on the name Johnnie because he had wanted a boy, but she was often called Annie. She took up dancing to help exercise her legs to help her [[rickets]]. Her film career effectively ended in [[1956]], but she remained active in the theatre. In [[1979]] she astounded audiences in the [[Broadway]] show [[Sugar Babies]]. In 1983 she won the [[Sarah Siddons Award]] for her work in [[Chicago]] theatre. In 2001 she took her last role as "Coco" in auteur director [[David Lynch]]'s movie [[Mulholland Drive (film)]].
This page grows too large too fast. I propose that we reduce the waiting period from 7 to 5 days. If there are no objections, I will change the text accordingly. --[[User:Eloquence|Eloquence]] 07:05 25 May 2003 (UTC)
*We currently have a rather long list due to the discussion about Internet Humour. I think length will go down as soon as that issue is settled out. -- [[User:JeLuF|JeLuF]] 08:52 25 May 2003 (UTC)
 
For her contribution to the motion picture industry, Ann Miller has a star on the [[Hollywood Walk of Fame]] at 6914 Hollywood Blvd.
Last time it went over 32 KB, Tarquin suggested we split off the copyright violations from everything else. I think that's a great idea. As traffic on this site continues to grow, VFD will inevitably get longer. Splitting is the obvious scalable solution. I'll even go so far as to create a tempting broken link: [[Wikipedia:Suspected copyright violations]]. -- [[User:Tim Starling|Tim Starling]] 14:30 25 May 2003 (UTC)
 
She died at the age of 80 (or 84) from cancer that had spread to her lungs and was interred in the [[Holy Cross Cemetery]] in [[Culver City, California]].
: I don't think that's a good solution. Yet another page to check .. --[[User:Eloquence|Eloquence]] 14:36 25 May 2003 (UTC)
 
::We ''could'' just tell everyone using browsers which limit length to 32 KB to get lost ;) I think 7 days is too long, so I'm fine with this change in the short term. But it's only a 30% saving, and you can't remove entries with active debate (which often seem to be the reason for going over the limit). Perhaps we need a software solution. -- [[User:Tim Starling|Tim Starling]] 14:50 25 May 2003 (UTC)
 
== Filmography ==
:::Yes, having <nowiki>[[Category:Deletion]]</nowiki> on the page, the discusison on the talk page, and the list of pages to be deleted auto-generated from the "what links here" of the category page would probably work best. However, category support is not there yet, so for the time being, we'll have to work with this solution. --[[User:Eloquence|Eloquence]] 14:53 25 May 2003 (UTC)
* ''[[Anne of Green Gables]]'' (1934)
* ''[[The Good Fairy]]'' (1935)
* ''[[The Devil on Horseback]]'' (1936)
* ''[[New Faces of 1937]]'' (1937)
* ''[[The Life of the Party]]'' (1937)
* ''[[Stage Door]]'' (1937)
* ''[[Radio City Revels]]'' (1938)
* ''[[Having Wonderful Time]]'' (1938)
* ''[[You Can't Take It with You]]'' (1938)
* ''[[Room Service]]'' (1938)
* ''[[Tarnished Angel]]'' (1938)
* ''[[Too Many Girls]]'' (1940)
* ''[[Hit Parade of 1941]]'' (1940)
* ''[[Melody Ranch]]'' (1940)
* ''[[Time Out for Rhythm]]'' (1941)
* ''[[Meet the Stars: Stars Past and Present]]'' (1941) (short subject)
* ''[[Screen Snapshots: Series 21, No. 1]]'' (1941) (short subject)
* ''[[Go West, Young Lady]]'' (1941)
* ''[[True to the Army]]'' (1942)
* ''[[Priorities on Parade]]'' (1942)
* ''[[Reveille with Beverly]]'' (1943)
* ''[[What's Buzzin', Cousin?]]'' (1943)
* ''[[Hey, Rookie]]'' (1944)
* ''[[Jam Session]]'' (1944)
* ''[[Carolina Blues]]'' (1944)
* ''[[Eadie Was a Lady]]'' (1945)
* ''[[Eve Knew Her Apples]]'' (1945)
* ''[[The Thrill of Brazil]]'' (1946)
* ''[[Easter Parade]]'' (1948)
* ''[[The Kissing Bandit]]'' (1948)
* ''[[Mighty Manhattan, New York's Wonder City]]'' (1949) (short subject)
* ''[[On the Town]]'' (1949)
* ''[[Watch the Birdie]]'' (1950)
* ''[[Texas Carnival]]'' (1951)
* ''[[Two Tickets to Broadway]]'' (1951)
* ''[[Lovely to Look At]]'' (1952)
* ''[[Small Town Girl]]'' (1953)
* ''[[Calamity Jane]]'' (1953) (bit part)
* ''[[Kiss Me, Kate]]'' (1953)
* ''[[Deep in My Heart]]'' (1954)
* ''[[Hit the Deck]]'' (1955)
* ''[[The Opposite Sex]]'' (1956)
* ''[[The Great American Pastime]]'' (1956)
* ''[[Won Ton Ton, the Dog Who Saved Hollywood]]'' (1976)
* ''[[A Century of Cinema]]'' (1994) (documentary)
* ''[[That's Entertainment! III]]'' (1994)
* ''[[Mulholland Dr.]]'' (2001)
 
== External links ==
::: software solution discussed at [[meta:deletion management redesign]]... [[User:MyRedDice|Martin]]
* {{imdb name|id=0587900|name=Ann Miller}}
* [http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/3422589.stm BBC obituary]
 
[[Category:1923 births|Miller, Ann]]
:Keep it at 7 days, i say. the problem lies in the page-size, not in the process. so don't change the process to address the page-size issue. the page-size issue has come about because a few discussions have been animated. those discussions should be moved to the discussion page of said article. that should solve the problem. i am going to give it a try. [[User:Kingturtle|Kingturtle]] 16:13 25 May 2003 (UTC)
[[Category:2004 deaths|Miller, Ann]]
[[Category:American actors|Miller, Ann]]
[[Category:U.S. stage actors|Miller, Ann]]
[[Category:American film actors|Miller, Ann]]
[[Category:Hollywood Walk of Fame|Miller, Ann]]
[[Category:Female singers|Miller, Ann]]
[[Category:Tap dancers|Miller, Ann]]
[[Category:People from Texas|Miller, Ann]]
 
a better solution is for us to be more diligent
 
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keep it at 7 days, but move the cp to another page. These rarely trigger discussion anyway. Ant
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Why is the Votes for Deletion page stretched out all the way across the page so that it overlaps the right margin? -- [[User:Zoe|Zoe]]
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:Looks fine on my browser (Mozilla). Maybe it's just a browser issue? Sometimes that happens with really long lines of fixed-width text, but I don't see any of that in there... -- [[User:Wapcaplet|Wapcaplet]] 01:08 30 May 2003 (UTC)
 
:EDIT: Whoops. Found it! The offending link is [[Anthony_Hancock_Paintings_and_Sculptures:_A_Retrospective_Exhibition]], which, since it is indented many times, runs off the right margin. -- [[User:Wapcaplet|Wapcaplet]] 01:10 30 May 2003 (UTC)
 
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Users of this page may be interested in [[Wikipedia:Delete test and welcome]], which I just created following its proposal on the mailing list. [[User:MyRedDice|Martin]] 20:27 31 May 2003 (UTC)
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We need to clean this out. I will work on it, but it is a bit much for one person. So lets weed through all the stuff that has been here for more than 1 week. If it is agreed to be deleted, delete it (and remove from this page. If not, move the discussion to [[Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/archive]]. Thanks. [[User:Mbecker|MB]] 20:46 6 Jun 2003 (UTC)
 
: a better option would be to move the discussion to the talk page of the relevant article. [[User:MyRedDice|Martin]] 00:36 7 Jun 2003 (UTC)
 
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"Mangled character" problems? I didn't ''touch'' the [[Spearman's Ï?]] entry on any of my edits. Was my browser somehow converting a character on it's own? Have we discovered a bug? I'm using Opera btw. Wondering simply, -- [[User:Infrogmation|Infrogmation]] 22:30 13 Jun 2003 (UTC)
 
: Yeah, it's the browser/editor kind of thing, the usual. Anthere always mangles [[User:212|212]]'s name, Jtdirl's Safari mangles [[Vangazi]], your Opera mangles the [[Spearman's Ï?]] (it's not right where you just put it here, either). The joys of browser compatability. :p -- [[User:JohnOwens|John Owens]] 22:40 13 Jun 2003 (UTC)
 
:::I wonder why I mess 212 name but not Vangazi ? Btw, thanks for always cleaning behind me John. I will leave a mess in less than 2 hours in wikimoney. :-)[[User:Anthere]]
 
:: And 142.177.98.227's manages to hit all three of the above, *sigh*.... -- [[User:JohnOwens|John Owens]] 22:45 13 Jun 2003 (UTC)
 
::Neither "Vangazi" or "Spearman's Ï?" are valid ISO-88519-1. The former is, as far as I can tell, Windows-1252, while the latter is probably supposed to be UTF-8. This site should switch to UTF-8 and those problems would not occur. -- [[User:Timwi|Timwi]] 09:40 18 Jun 2003 (UTC)
 
:::No. Actually it would be ''worse''. Browsers not supporting utf will just destroy every special characters, instead of these three. I leave very ugly trails behind me on meta, and I cannot edit pages in french with accents. That is quite a trouble for me not to be able to write in my language :-)
 
John's patience is admirable, but maybe should should move those links to a new page, placing a Wikilink on the deletion page, just for now. We'll delete that page if necessary after the matter is closed. --[[User:Menchi|Menchi]] 04:38 19 Jun 2003 (UTC)
 
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Since this is a very high traffic page, it can be difficult to track changes back to contributors. If you're wondering why the intro changed, here's the diff, by GrahamN: [http://www.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Wikipedia:Votes_for_deletion&diff=1054839&oldid=1054819 (The reason for this page is to make decisions democratic, not to "draw sysops' attention" to problems.)] -- [[User:Tim Starling|Tim Starling]] 14:49 18 Jun 2003 (UTC)
 
Also [http://www.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Wikipedia:Votes_for_undeletion&diff=1054901&oldid=1054877] on [[Wikipedia:Votes for undeletion]]. -- [[User:Tim Starling|Tim Starling]] 14:56 18 Jun 2003 (UTC)
 
Er, oh. Was there some sort of procedure I was supposed to go through? I thought Wikipedia: xxx pages worked the same as any other article. Sorry if I have transgressed. [[User:GrahamN|GrahamN]] 15:03 18 Jun 2003 (UTC)
 
: In an ideal world, I'd like to see contributors to an entry or set of entries to come to a consensus about deletion ''before'' listing a page here... but even I don't do that, so I can't really ask others to do so... :-( [[User:MyRedDice|Martin]] 15:27 18 Jun 2003 (UTC)
 
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How long do we wait before del copyvio? Théy ''all'' are so obvious, and they're added mostly by experimental Anon newbies. --[[User:Menchi|Menchi]] 16:16 30 Jun 2003 (UTC)
 
: I personally delete them on contact. They are a violation of our rules, and there really can't be any arguing regarding deletion, so there is technically no reason to post them here and wait a week. [[User:Mbecker|MB]] 16:58 30 Jun 2003 (UTC)