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*<s>'''Support 2nd''' [[WP:PRIMARYTOPIC]] lists two criteria. The programming language clearly wins the first. The island arguably wins the second. My read is there is no primary topic at this time and [[Java]] should be a disambiguation page. ~[[User:Kvng|Kvng]] ([[User talk:Kvng|talk]]) 13:58, 20 May 2022 (UTC)</s> [[WP:STICK]] arguments above are compelling. ~[[User:Kvng|Kvng]] ([[User talk:Kvng|talk]]) 14:02, 20 May 2022 (UTC)
*'''Oppose both''' [[WP:SNOW]] Java is Java, what else would it be. Are we going to rename apple as [[apple (fruit)]]? [[User:In ictu oculi|In ictu oculi]] ([[User talk:In ictu oculi|talk]]) 19:46, 20 May 2022 (UTC)
*'''Oppose both''' The term comes from the island name, everything else (slang/type of coffee, programming languages) is derivative. Java without qualifiers should be the island, everything else should be in the ''Java (specifier)'' format, which is the current state of things. [[User:Fbergo|Fbergo]] ([[User talk:Fbergo|talk]]) 15:03, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
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