There should be "incredible weezer accounts" where strange fan-weezer interactions are recorded.
Consider this done! Well, at least SORT OF. I felt that this great fanbase had to be represented in their article, there's nothing quite like it. 199.94.76.7 05:43, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
I think this is fine, but let's keep it short and sweet? The relevance should be the band and their sucess, and how the fans relate to that. The general idiosyncracies of the fan base would go into into a wiki entry of their own. --AboutWeezer 21:26, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
External links removed
Why were three external links removed today? They're still functioning and recent. Cookiecaper 21:59, 22 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- I took off links pertaining specifically to ss2k. The links were originally put there as places to get the ss2k mp3's, but they now either no longer seem to have those specific songs (official site), or it is non-trivial to retrieve them (other Weezer media sites requiring membership/login). They were replaced with the [www.weezerss2k.com] which is a site dedicated solely to making these songs available to the public. All of the links removed from this section were duplicated in the links section of the article and have not been removed from there.Kevmitch 08:26, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
Okay I'm adding those back. Cookiecaper 05:58, 3 Jan 2005 (UTC)
Just the Facts, Please
Suggest removing language that does not specify facts about the band. For instance:
"Cuomo declared Weezer in a state of hiatus and turned his back on Pinkerton, often saying he wished it was never recorded and even vowing to destroy all copies of the album in existence. However, thanks to the internet, Weezer's popularity grew tremendously during this hiatus, mostly emo fans that loved the album and demand for Weezer rose."
No one really knows if Rivers "turned his back on Pinkerton" as he constantly is joking and being ironic about these things. My next project will be to remove this language from the entry. I will be adding more info on recording of Pinkerton and the Green Album. "Weezer rocks!!" (Rodriguez, 2005)
Just because he's joking and being ironic doesn't mean he didn't say it. If he said such things (which he did in spin), he said such things, its not ours to interperate his motives. He called the album "embarrising" and "a joke". Why he hates it is beccause he opened his heart on it, and the critics and fans were like, uh, your a psycho, and wrote him off. He shelled himself off, and went on his own merry way. The second line of the quote, "however..." should be left off. There's more important and relevant things to say like, why? which should be relating to how he doesn't like the album (which is found in spin circa 2000) --evesummernight 04:27, 1 August 2005 (UTC)
The Related Bands section
I don't know if Ozma should be listed as a related band, as it is really only tangentially related at best. I think this should be kept to bands that directly involve (or have involved) one or more members of Weezer. Too strict? This is the Weezer entry, after all. Maybe add a section for "toured with"? --Moonty 16:39, 10 Mar 2005 (UTC)
I agree that including Ozma as a related band is very "iffy". I'm gonna leave it alone for now because it doesn't hurt anything having them there. I think Weezer plays a bigger factor in Ozma's history than the reverse. A band like That Dog (featuring the Rachel and Petra Haden) played a bigger factor in Weezer's history, especially early on. I'm considering adding them, since the Hadens played on a Weezer song, and also on The Rentals albums, and Weezer even played a benefit show when Rachel was hit by a car. I imagine that in the future, Ozma as a related band will be removed as they fade from all but the most obscure rock music memory.
--AboutWeezer 03:18, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I think that maybe a new category is needed. Perhaps "Bands that Got Their Start Opening For Weezer" or "Bands Influenced by Weezer/Rivers Cuomo" and such bands as Ozma and Rooney could be put under that category. Without any serious objections, I'll probably do that in the near future.
--Eddie Quintana April 15, 2005
This is a Wikipedia entry for Weezer, what do these bands have to do with the history or facts about Weezer? You don't see a list of huge bands like Oasis in the Beatles wiki entry. Please see the Wiki entries for those bands u suggest (including Ozma) and include their Weezer influence where appropriate, but not in a Weeezr entry?
admitedly I cannot find the reference source at this current moment but Karl Kotch mentioned on weezer.com that Rivers had became Ozma's manager during 2002-2003 after their tour with weezer.
—The preceding unsigned comment was added by VladX (talk • contribs) 12:23, 8 August 2005 (UTC)
The B-Sides definitely don't need to be listed as a related band. They were simply influenced by Weezer. Being so little known, I would guess that one of their fans snuck the link in there in order to bring in more fans. Definitely inappropriate for an encyclopedia article. I removed the text involving them, which was as follows: "*The B-Sides Play many Weezer covers as well as their own. Weezer influenced and proud of it." As you can see, they're in no way related to Weezer, they simply have a Weezer-like sound. -Josh, August 16, 2005
Cropper's Firing from the Band
"After the recording of the album, guitarist Jason Cropper was fired from the band by Cuomo."
This feels a bit...missing. Does anyone know why Jason Cropper was fired and want to contribute? --Snaxe920 01:53, September 10, 2005 (UTC)
If it feels "a bit...missing" it's because there is practically no info about what happened. The fact that Rivers fired Cropper was only just recently learned from the Weezer unofficial bio book. Legally, Jason Cropper cannot discuss the incident. There have been rumors about conflicts with Cropper getting married and/or his wife's pregnancy, but those are just old rumors and no one knows the real story--at least not yet. Maybe when Weezer dissolves the stories can be told.
--AboutWeezer 14:04, 20 October 2005 (UT)
Many hardcore Weezer fans have attributed the downfall of the band (post "Blue" and "Pinkerton" albums) to the retirement of Matt Sharp in 1998. Even though Rivers is responsible for virtually all song writing duties, Sharp was an apparent influence on Weezer’s early sound. Taking a look at Sharp’s band the Rentals, it is obvious that the Sharp influence was missing on the poppy, unemotional, bland sound of the “Green album” and all subsequent albums.- Brian Johnson
Well that is your opinion, and that is nice.
"Shakes"
"In these formative years, Matt Sharp's pet dog, "Shakes", served as the band's de facto mascot."
The above line was deleted and treated as "vandalism" when in fact it was only an edit of a previous line in order for it to make sense grammatically. The original line was: "(Weezer in 1992-1993) Also includes Matt's Pet dog "Shakes" as the band's mascot."
Nikki Castagna
Who the heck is Nikki Castagna? I couldn't find anything on Weezer's website. Anyone got a link to confirm they were a member of the band?