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== Neutrality Issues with this Page ==
Guerrero does not deserve to be remembered as only a "Hispanic Professional Wrestler", he deserves to be remembered as the best professional wrestler of modern times and qualifying his legacy with a term of race is an insult to his memory. <small>—''The preceding [[Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages|unsigned]] comment was added by'' [[User:Zuul|Zuul]] ([[User talk:Zuul|talk]]
:The only neutrality issues here are those relating to you. The standard policy with wrestler pages is to explain their nationality as an adjective in the opening sentence. As Guerrero was born in Mexico but apprently became an American citizen, "Hispanic" is a more appropriate term. Calling him the "best professional wrestler of modern times" is not neutral. [[User:McPhail|McPhail]] 18:52, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
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== Phrases ==
I thought viva la raza would translate more as long live our race. <small>—''The preceding [[Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages|unsigned]] comment was added by'' [[User:24.168.100.80|24.168.100.80]] ([[User talk:24.168.100.80|talk]]
:Spanish grammar is very different than english grammar and thus not everything can be translated word for word. [[User:MrNordstrom|MrNordstrom]]
== Thoughts ==
Well I thought it's Long Live The Race. Looked it up in internet dictionaries. In his DVD Cheating Death, Stealing Life he said "Viva La Raza" means his people but technically in Spanish means "Long Live The Race". Well it's reasonable of why its "Eddy", because of his real name Eduardo. People call their close friends like that and commonly it would be "Eddy". But I guess WWE and Guerrero himself prefers "Eddie". <small>—''The preceding [[Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages|unsigned]] comment was added by'' [[User:203.24.100.137|203.24.100.137]] ([[User talk:203.24.100.137|talk]]
:There is no definitive right way to translate all phrases in Spanish. "Lucha Libre" technically means "free fight" but that means absolutely nothing so there has to be more to the process of translating than just looking it up in a dictionary and getting a word for word translation. Raza does mean race but a race is made of people and races are generally referred as "people" in English so Eddie's take of it meaning "the people" is a perfectly logical and acceptable translation especially if we are going to include it in an article about him.
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:I think he went as Eddy for at least some of his time in WCW. --[[User:128.210.80.224|128.210.80.224]] 03:48, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
:I think that "Hail the Race" or "Cheer the Race" would be a more exact adaptation of Viva la Raza. I'm half spanish and I may say that you are right when you say that viva means live, but it can also mean something like hail or cheers. <small>—''The preceding [[Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages|unsigned]] comment was added by'' [[User:193.136.19.6|193.136.19.6]] ([[User talk:193.136.19.6|talk]]
:I'm latin, and the "Long Live" phrase is more accurate to translate the "Viva". This is because is used as a word to tell a positive feeling about something, but is derivated from the verb Vivir (Live). But the most accurated translate should be something like "Live the Race", but as a kind of order. In spanish the term was originally used as a desire to keep something alive, but it's also used to say that something that maybe is not tangible or actual or alive, still is in the mind or feelings of somebody or the people. So, after that, only to say: "Viva Eddie".
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'''Goodbye Eddie we will always miss you '''
The-ayatollah <small>—''The preceding [[Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages|unsigned]] comment was added by'' [[User:87.123.80.77|87.123.80.77]] ([[User talk:87.123.80.77|talk]]
I am sad to hear the passing of Eddie. Rest in Peace.[[User:SFrank85|SFrank85]]
My thoughts and condolences are with the Guerrero family. Eddie was one of the greatest wrestlers of our generation...
''Resto en paz'' <small>—''The preceding [[Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages|unsigned]] comment was added by'' [[User:Keekee5|Keekee5]] ([[User talk:Keekee5|talk]]
I can't believe it. Rest in peace holmes... -[http://spaces.msn.com/members/deejayrune/ Rune] <small>—''The preceding [[Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages|unsigned]] comment was added by'' [[User:24.43.215.111|24.43.215.111]] ([[User talk:24.43.215.111|talk]]
R.I.P. Eddie, this is truly surprising. [[User:I.M. Rich|I Am Ri¢h]] 23:01, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
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It's so amazing that on the eve of re-gaining the championship after all the struggles with addictions, the wrestling life, etc, that he would succumb at such a young age.
I am in shock to see yet another wrestler lose his life way too early... <small>—''The preceding [[Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages|unsigned]] comment was added by'' [[User:149.166.135.24|149.166.135.24]] ([[User talk:149.166.135.24|talk]]
I dont have the transcript either. It doesn't work for most computers anyways. [[User:SWD316|SWD316]] [[User_talk:SWD316|talk to m]][[Wikipedia:Esperanza|e]] 22:05, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
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Can you feel The heat? I can't. What happened?
Viva la raza... <small>—''The preceding [[Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages|unsigned]] comment was added by'' [[User:201.152.57.54|201.152.57.54]] ([[User talk:201.152.57.54|talk]]
*It seems that his past life with drugs has finally took it's toll on him. [[User:SFrank85|SFrank85]] 03:18, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
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SINCERELY,
C.WILLOUGHBY OF RIO RANCHO NEW MEXICO <small>—''The preceding [[Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages|unsigned]] comment was added by'' [[User:72.24.101.206|72.24.101.206]] ([[User talk:72.24.101.206|talk]]
RIP LATINO HEAT. <small>—''The preceding [[Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages|unsigned]] comment was added by'' [[User:203.4.253.1|203.4.253.1]] ([[User talk:203.4.253.1|talk]]
== Slight error? ==
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Eventually, an Undisputed Championship Belt was designed and Brock Lesnar became the champion. When the WWE seperated into two seperate brands (Raw and SmackDown!), Brock Lesnar formed an exclusivity deal with Stephanie McMahon (then SmackDown! General Manager). Since Lesnar would not perform on Raw, Raw's General Manager (Eric Bischoff) assigned the World Heavyweight Championship to Triple H. The belt used by Brock Lesnar to represent the WWE Championship was still the belt that had been designed as the Undisputed Championship (and still is today with the exclusion of special instances such as the current champion, John Cena, who uses a custom belt).
The World Heavyweight Championship is in no way the WCW Championship. Technically that is the WCW Television Championship. The WWE Championship is in no way a World Championship. It merely makes one the champion of the WWE. Whereas, the World Championship (currently held by Dave Batista) makes one the champion of the entire world. The belt has been through many federations and been around since 1904. It IS THE World Championship. It will not die with the WWE. The WWE Championship, however, will. <small>—''The preceding [[Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages|unsigned]] comment was added by'' [[User:69.219.130.88|69.219.130.88]] ([[User talk:69.219.130.88|talk]]
There is no ONE "World Champion". The NWA World Heavyweight belt is still defended in TNA. Many other promotions also still have WHC belts. To say that the WWE World Champion belt is the ONLY WHC is ridiculous. <small>—''The preceding [[Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages|unsigned]] comment was added by'' [[User:68.76.145.173|68.76.145.173]] ([[User talk:68.76.145.173|talk]]
:Ignoring the pointless dispute over lineage (I was the anon who started this thread), my main point was with the terminology involved. an anon below mentioned it...there are 2 meanings to World Heavyweight Championship. One of them has to do with magazines like PWI s a aclassification of the top belt in a fed, and the other is the actual title itself. Because of this particular fact, the statement is potentially misleading. That is what I wa sasking about, not a pointless lineage dispute.[[User:Toffile|Toffile]] 15:35, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
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It's on the 15th. Remember that the press conference was held only a few hours after he died, Chavo was, most likely, very shaken up, and mixed up the dates. [[User:Methnor|Methnor]] 04:55, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
McPhail even though Eddy was born in Mexico and not Texas after all he is still American because his father was born in Arizona. Whe they say World Heavyweight Champ at times that refers to a championship of World title status in the wrestling world. the WHC in WWE is just a trademarked name. So it would've been his second WHC but not his second WHC® because the WWE championship is the ex-WWWF/WWF World heavyweight title. And he preferred Eddy but the U.S. Feds just anglicized it like PWI magazine does with Misterio. Vital Component -- Nov 14, 2005 11:16 EST. 1967-2005 R.I.P. <small>—''The preceding [[Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages|unsigned]] comment was added by'' [[User:24.159.176.38|24.159.176.38]] ([[User talk:24.159.176.38|talk]]
The WWE Title is not a world championship. It merely makes on the champion of the WWE. The World Heavyweight Championship makes one the champion of the world. The World Heavyweight Championship has been around since 1904. It is '''THE''' World Heavyweight Championship. <small>—''The preceding [[Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages|unsigned]] comment was added by'' [[User:69.219.130.88|69.219.130.88]] ([[User talk:69.219.130.88|talk]]
== Initial results of autopsy ==
According to a WWE.com article, the initial results have come in and it looks to be that Eddie died from heart failure. <small>—''The preceding [[Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages|unsigned]] comment was added by'' [[User:67.162.68.235|67.162.68.235]] ([[User talk:67.162.68.235|talk]]
Yeah, if you need a source, go here: [http://www.wwe.com/inside/news/causeofdeath] [[User:OutRider2003|OutRider2003]] 18:43, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
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Eddie did not die while in his sleep because I remember hearing that he was still holding his toothbrush when he died, and I don't believe Chavo nor Vince mentioned in the press conference that he died in his sleep either. [[User:OutRider2003|OutRider2003]] 20:37, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
Many reports have stated that Eddie was found either with his toothbrush in his mouth or still in his hand, since he died in the bathroom while brushing his teeth. He didn't pass away in his sleep. <small>—''The preceding [[Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages|unsigned]] comment was added by'' [[User:70.24.23.63|70.24.23.63]] ([[User talk:70.24.23.63|talk]]
He was found dead on his bathroom floor with his toothbrush in hand. While he did die of heart failure, they believe the death was instant and happened early sunday morning or saturday night whilest he was either brushing his teeth or getting ready to. Thats a small and insignificant detail though. <small>—''The preceding [[Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages|unsigned]] comment was added by'' [[User:65.31.216.243|65.31.216.243]] ([[User talk:65.31.216.243|talk]]
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== Eddie or Guerrero? ==
Since Eddie is not the only 'Guerrero', and that Eddie Guerrero is referred to as Eddie by most people, I edited the 'Guerrero' that refers to Eddie Guerrero to 'Eddie'. <small>—''The preceding [[Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages|unsigned]] comment was added by'' [[User:202.168.99.16|202.168.99.16]] ([[User talk:202.168.99.16|talk]]
:This has been reverted. Instances whether there are two Guerreros can be differentiated by using "Eddie Guerrero". It is standard practise in all encylopedias, including Wikipedia, to refer to article subjects by their surname. [[User:McPhail|McPhail]] 23:22, 18 November 2005 (UTC)
== Finishing and signature moves ==
This is a bit on a selfish side but Eddie's finishing and signature moves are listed in different ways compared to most others, such as Shawn Michaels and Triple H. Such as ''Lasso From El Paso'' ([[Professional wrestling holds#Texas cloverleaf|Texas cloverleaf]]) instead of [[Professional wrestling holds#Texas cloverleaf|Lasso From El Paso]]. <small>—''The preceding [[Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages|unsigned]] comment was added by'' [[User:202.168.99.16|202.168.99.16]] ([[User talk:202.168.99.16|talk]]
::The former method is used where the move in question has a proper name, with the brackets containing the move description / the standard name of the move. [[User:McPhail|McPhail]] 13:09, 19 November 2005 (UTC)
Hmm... at least it can be [[Professional wrestling holds#Texas cloverleaf|Lasso From El Paso (Modified Texas cloverleaf hold)]] instead of Lasso From El Paso ([[Professional wrestling holds#Texas cloverleaf|Modified Texas cloverleaf hold]]). And wouldn't you be able to know the standard name of the move by browsing the move?
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Hi. It would be nice that a sysop would accept to add the French interwiki in the article : '''<nowiki>[[fr:Eddie Guerrero]]</nowiki>'''. Thanks. [[User:Hégésippe Cormier|Hégésippe]] | [[User talk:Hégésippe Cormier|±Θ±]] 01:27, 17 November 2005 (UTC)
How can people vandalize pages profiting of the fact that guy died and the page will be watched by the mass. Those people suck. Eddie, you were the greatest, I always thought that and always will. <small>—''The preceding [[Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages|unsigned]] comment was added by'' [[User:64.229.90.64|64.229.90.64]] ([[User talk:64.229.90.64|talk]]
EDDIE RULES! <small>—''The preceding [[Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages|unsigned]] comment was added by'' [[User:80.220.78.102|80.220.78.102]] ([[User talk:80.220.78.102|talk]]
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