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The result was '''keep'''. Technically a [[WP:SNOW]] close, but a [[WP:SPEEDY]] close might also be justifiable. Two rationales for deletion are given. One is [[WP:IDONTLIKEIT]]; even when the dislike is based on (potentially legitimate) NPOV concerns that is not a rationale for deletion. The other rationale was that it was a duplicate; the other article named was the duplicate and has been redirected here. Consensus is clear that this is a notable topic. As there are discussions elsewhere, I am closing this early. <small>[[Wikipedia:NACD|(non-admin closure)]]</small> [[User:力]] (power~enwiki, [[User talk:力|<span style="color:#FA0;font-family:courier">π</span>]], [[Special:Contributions/力|<span style="font-family:courier">ν</span>]]) 00:31, 18 July 2021 (UTC)
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*'''Keep''' nomination seems to be based heavily on the nominator’s ignorant LGBTQ-phobic opinions barely hidden behind flimsy claims of “NPOV”/“inadequate sourcing”. [[User:Dronebogus|Dronebogus]] ([[User talk:Dronebogus|talk]]) 23:23, 17 July 2021 (UTC)
*'''Keep''' The notion that queerness did not exist "in those days" is misguided and ill-informed at best. The appeal to "traditions and values" suggests we are not dealing with a best case scenario. [[User:Richard Nevell|Richard Nevell]] ([[User talk:Richard Nevell|talk]]) 00:09, 18 July 2021 (UTC)
*<s>'''Delete'''</s> Where are my supporters? I thought I had some traditional supporters by my side? This is unbelievable. I am like the only person in Wikipedia who tries to delete [[NPOV]] articles related to LGBT. The citations used were - 1)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxokB7sfopc 2)https://andreasdeja.blogspot.com/2012/11/the-evolution-of-jafar.html 3)https://ohmy.disney.com/movies/2015/10/13/8-things-you-didnt-know-about-aladdin/ 4)https://controlforever.com/read/queercoding-and-horror-films/ . Do you not see those citations are not valid in Wikipedia?
:Note user [[User:MjolnirPants]] noted this citation: https://www.insider.com/luca-lgbt-gay-queer-coded-2021-6 is good to be used in queer coding. If you look at [[Luca (2021 film)]], the director explicitly denied the main character isn't LGBT, then how can that citation that says Luca is LGBT and queer coded be valid? All these citations are following [[WP:SYNTH]] which is using a variety of sources to imply a suggestion that characters are queer-coded when they are not! Whatever you do do not ruin Classical Golden Age Disney. There is zero evidence that the characters Jafar and Scar are LGBT and to the extent therefore they are queer-coded. [[User:7falcon23|7falcon23]] ([[User talk:7falcon23|talk]]) 00:28, 18 July 2021 (UTC)
*Do '''NOT''' do duplicate votes when you've already nominated the article for deletion. That is an abuse of the deletion process. There is no [[WP:SYNTH]] going on here; all of the sources provided state the concept is real and that those characters, while maybe not really LGBT, are queer-coded, and no one, as well as not the article, is stating the characters are actually LBGT, just that they have traits and characteristics that "codes" them as LGBT. Just using multiple sources is not automatically synthesis. You're not even understanding the concept of queer coding properly. [[User:HumanxAnthro|👨x🐱]] ([[User talk:HumanxAnthro|talk]]) 00:36, 18 July 2021 (UTC)
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