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I think that {{tl|template doc}} is a bit to "in your face". It makes the documentation hard to read. It is too colourful and doesn't match the Wikipedia colour scheme. The image [[Image:Template-info.svg|35px]] is cute but adds to the overall "information stress" of the design. And the horizontal line immediately under the title also is unnecessary. Especially since below that normally is transcluded in the sentence "''This documentation is transcluded from Template:X/doc. (edit | history)''" surrounded by two horizontal lines. Sure, without all that decoration it looks more boring, but the point is to make the documentation readable, not to pimp or template pages as much as possible. --[[User:Davidgothberg|David Göthberg]] 10:49, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
:I somewhat concur with your opinions regarding the background colours, and I'd prefer a less invasive design. One suggestions is to not include {{tl|template doc}}, since it isn't required and was added to this template page recently, in the 2007-06-04T07:33:23 revision by [[User:Chochopk]]. [[Template:Coor dms|Here]] is an example of a template that doesn't use it. You may also suggest to redesign {{tl|Template doc inline}} to remove boarders and change colors (i.e., replace <code>style="background-color:#ecfcf4; border:1px solid #aaa;</code> with <code>style="background-color:transparent; border:none;</code>, or something like that.) <
::Thanks for the complete answer! Yes, when I first encountered this kind of subpage docs they were without boxes and just had the thin {{tl|template doc page transcluded}} header. And the first time I used this kind of subpage docs myself that was what I used. But I like having the transcluded documentation surrounded by some kind of box so it is clear what is the transcluded part. And yes, I am aware that the colours etc in this case are coded in {{tl|Template doc inline}}. I just wanted to say my "complaints" in an as easy to understand way as possible for everyone. I thought it was better to bring that discussion up here since this is kind of the "project page" for those templates, right? And sure, I can design my own boxes. But I thought I didn't want to add more box templates and instead first discuss it here. Oh, I seem to remember there are some ready made simple grey/blue generic box templates. They could be used for this. But they of course lacks the view and edit buttons. --[[User:Davidgothberg|David Göthberg]] 16:11, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
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:::I'm not sure how to deal with the horizontal lines in {{tl|template doc page transcluded}} ("transcluded") right now, since it is used with/without {{tl|template doc}} ("tdoc"). It would be nice to have the "tdoc" functionality included in the "transcluded" template, however then all template instances of "tdoc" would have to be edited manually or by a bot to remove the "transcluded" instance. The "transcluded" template would then be used for older template documents. Could this work? It would mean a bit of work, of course. <
Oh, I forgot that most people use LCD screens nowadays. Then more colours are needed. (I use CRT screens.) So don't bother about the colour. The only changes I would like then is that we remove the image and the horizontal border under the {{tl|template doc inline}} header. No other changes needed to make the template much less "invasive". And that should not "break" any of the old pages that only use one of the two templates.
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==Merge of documentation templates==
I'd like to draw some attention towards a proposed merge between {{tl|Template doc}} and {{tl|Documentation}}. Comment here: [[Template talk:Template doc#Merge Template:Documentation and Template:Template doc]]. <
:The merge took place. {{tl|Documentation}} won. --[[User:AlastairIrvine|AlastairIrvine]] ([[User talk:AlastairIrvine|talk]]) 16:09, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
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