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==Java pages cleanup==
Given the recent change in the Java naming conventions [http://weblogs.java.net/blog/kgh/archive/2005/06/goodbye_j2se_he_1.html], the Java articles will need a cleanup, possibly including moves in a few cases and redirects put in the place of their current names. Sorry, I wasn't sure where to add this in the form of something like a VFD (and couldn't find it in the FAQ), so I figured here would be as good a start as any. [[User:Aidan W|aidan_walsh]]
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Shouldn't there be a disambig statement at the top of the article for [[javascript]]? The javascript page mentions the differences in its first section. As a layman, it is pretty confusing to me since as I understand it, browsers can use both. [[User:Spalding|Spalding]] 13:50, July 10, 2005 (UTC)
 
:There is already a disambiguation at the top of [[Java programming language]]. I don't think there's need for one here. &ndash; [[User:Smyth|Smyth]]\[[User_talk:Smyth|<sup><font colorstyle="color:gray;">[[User_talk:Smyth|talk]]</font></sup>]] 15:10, 10 July 2005 (UTC)
::Wow, it's even worse than I thought then. I got to the page from a link using the word Java, so I didn't even notice this article is about a Java platform as opposed to the Java language. I now think the remedy is to put a wikilink to Java much higher up in the article than it currently is, so I will do that now. [[User:Spalding|Spalding]] 20:58, July 10, 2005 (UTC)
 
== Merge from [[Java 2 Platform, Standard Edition]] ==
 
The sections in the Java 2 Platform, Standard Edition article that list and summarize the packages are better served by the Javadoc API documentation and should be removed. (Compare {{Javadoc:SE}} to the list of packages in the article&mdash;the '''article is''' nearly a complete subset.) Once these are removed, there is very little left in the J2SE article.
 
The only really relevant thing that needs to be discussed regarding the platform is to describe the distinction between the platform and the language and explain what constitutes the platform, and that is well-discussed in this article. Therefore, this is less of a merge request (although some changes are probably necessary in this document) than a delete request for Java 2 Platform, Standard Edition. This same logic probably also applies to the [[Java 2 Platform, Micro Edition]] and [[Java 2 Platform, Enterprise Edition]] pages, although there would be more content to merge into this article in those cases. I think all of the platform distinctions would be better discussed as sections in a single article. &ndash; [[User:Doug Bell|Doug Bell]] <sup>[[User talk:Doug Bell|talk]]'''&bull;'''[[Special:Contributions/Doug Bell|contrib]]</sup> 19:18, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
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'''Removed merge suggestion''' Since this generated almost no discussion in about a month, I removed the merge request, for now. &ndash; [[User:Doug Bell|Doug Bell]] <sup>[[User talk:Doug Bell|talk]]'''&bull;'''[[Special:Contributions/Doug Bell|contrib]]</sup> 10:01, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
 
== Comment from Anonymous User ==
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older than Java. Applets may the innovation but again as I mentioned - all
languages are evolutionary in nature
 
::I agree with all the comments above; Java is a highly successful language for a number of reasons, but there is a widespread tendency in discussions to give Sun credit for creating things from scratch that really existed before, whereas Sun gathered together a lot of great ideas into one platform and implemented them very well. This is in fact the status of most technological "innovations"--they build highly upon prerequisite experience from all sorts of arenas. Not to dampen anyone's enthusiasm for Java, but I think it important to maintain NPOV here.[[User:Harborsparrow|Harborsparrow]] 01:55, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
 
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I felt this is weak and at least incomplete if not inaccurate. There have historically been many uses of virtual machines in software, including for example the p-code intermediate language used for Visual Basic for about 15 years before Java was ever conceived. I believe that the concept of a virtual machine is discussed elsewhere in Wikipedia and this information ought to be covered thoroughly there.[[User:Harborsparrow|Harborsparrow]] 15:04, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
 
== The Java Platform is the world's most broadly deployed open source software technology ==
 
Yeah? Are you sure about that? <small>—The preceding [[Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages|unsigned]] comment was added by [[Special:Contributions/24.67.213.211|24.67.213.211]] ([[User talk:24.67.213.211|talk]]) 07:09, 18 December 2006 (UTC).</small><!-- HagermanBot Auto-Unsigned -->deden?
 
== Merge ==
 
This and [[Java (Sun)]] cover much the same ground. The platform theoretically comprises everything touched by Java, so there's no reason to have a separate article for the term. There's currently a lot of duplication. [[User:Thumperward|Chris Cunningham]] 10:24, 11 September 2007 (UTC)