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== {{did}} Fujita scale ==

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::::Looks great! --[[User:Interiot|Interiot]] 18:20, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

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== {{did}} All-Ireland ==

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:::Yeah super i know i made it more difficult than i should . Thanks for your help you did a super job ([[User:Gnevin|Gnevin]] 17:51, 7 June 2007 (UTC))

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== {{did}} Cross-beam diagram ==

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:: Perfect. [[User:128.158.145.51|128.158.145.51]] 17:25, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

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=={{did}}? [[List of Japanese flags]] ==

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'''Graphist opinion:''' Would these images, derived from fair use images, also have to be fair use?--[[User:HereToHelp|Here]][[User talk:HereToHelp|'''T''']][[User:HereToHelp|oHelp]] 13:07, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

:Thanks for your quick reply! Yes, they should be tagged as used in a fair use rationale. Should the Japanese government one day decide to expand on their [[Law ConcerningRegarding the National Flag and National Anthem]], the tags can always be changed. --[[User:LeoNomis|LeoNomis]] 13:55, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

::Oh well. I should clarify that I personally don't know much about designing vector graphics--just poking my head in--but I'm sure someone will give it a shot really soon.--[[User:HereToHelp|Here]][[User talk:HereToHelp|'''T''']][[User:HereToHelp|oHelp]] 14:47, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

:::I'll make vector versions of these images, but I don't know what to do regarding fair-use-rationale and liscensing, as I am a Graphics Lab Newbie. I'd appreciate help in this area. --[[User:DTR|Dave the Rave (DTR)]] 16:39, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

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| Quote: "<nowiki>[On fair-use rationales:]</nowiki> Other text indicating conformance with the [[Wikipedia:Logos]] guideline may be added, such as confirmation that the logo has been '''rendered at a small size and with lower detail''' if it is a scalable vector image." from [[Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline]]

Both vector images are small (notably [[:Image:Hiroshima Symbol.svg]], compared to the original) and not particluarly detailed. I don't know much about fair-use and all that, but I can't see anything that indicates there is anything wrong with vector-images. If anyone else knows anything to the contrary, speak up. --[[User:DTR|Dave the Rave (DTR)]]<small>[[User_talk:DTR|talk]]</small> 20:04, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

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== The Wikipedia French Embassy logo.... ==

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The original image has some serious copyright issues, and I have nominated it for deletion on Commons. I do personally think the Wikimedia Foundation ''should'' just release its logos under a free license (though still subject to trademarks, of course), but until they grow some spine and do that, we can't just make them free by insisting that they are so. —[[User:Ilmari Karonen|Ilmari Karonen]] <small>([[User talk:Ilmari Karonen|talk]])</small> 20:24, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

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== :Image:SwansCygnus olor.jpg ==

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:::::: See [[:commons:Commons:Featured picture candidates/Image:SwansCygnus olor edit2.jpg‎]]. In general, people like it, but want it to be have more detail. As I said, tough crowd. If a higher-res version can be generated, it might help. They like their featured pictures to be suitable for printing. Regards, [[User talk:BenAveling|Ben Aveling]] 05:31, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

::::::: Here is the largest possible from the original. --[[User:Javit|Javit]] 09:48, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

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== Coat of arms of Denmark ==

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:::::It would still be great if one of you could make [[:Image:Rigsvåben nationalmuseet.jpg|the photo]] a little clearer / sharper, but I don't know if that is possible. [[User:Valentinian|Valentinian]] ^{[[User_talk:Valentinian|T]] / [[Special:Contributions/Valentinian|C]]} 12:07, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

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== Tenrec ==

Can anybody help me to improve my photo of [[tenrec]] (Lesser Hedgehog Tenrec - ''Echinops telfairi'')? If thats possible?

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'''Graphist opinion:''' Hiya. I think the photo is fairly blurred and not very well composed for content. Yet there is room for improvement post-processing, but probably not worth it unless you demonstrate that the photograph would be a useful addition to a linked article. Thanks! --[[User:Javit|Javit]] 17:34, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

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== {{did}} Progression of [[Dental caries]] ==

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Smooth surface caries (the second series shown) is described as looking like two triangles, with an apex of one triangle touching the base of the other. It begins as a large area in enamel and shrinks to a point as it nears the ___location where enamel and dentin meet. Once the decay reaches dentin, it again spreads laterally rapidly and sharpens into a point again as it moves toward the pulp.

I realize this may be a lot to do, but I would very much appreciate it! And the [[dental caries|article]] would appreciate it too!!!! - [[User:Dozenist|Dozenist]] [[User talk:Dozenist|<fontspan colorstyle="color:darkgreen"; font-size="1:x-small;">[[User talk:Dozenist|talk]]</fontspan>]] 22:42, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

'''Graphist opinion:'''

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I've created an SVG of the image, with a more realistic colour scheme. The dentine and pulp out towards are faded out towards the bottom which IMO looks better than simply cropping it to the top. Would using the same image (without the fading out) be acceptable for the animations? [[User:Time3000|Time3000]] 14:24, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

:The colors look ''a ton'' better! The caries will be much easier to identify in the animation that way. For that purpose, you may want to consider lightening the dentin color just slightly, but if you feel that the color is not too dark then do not bother with it. - [[User:Dozenist|Dozenist]] [[User talk:Dozenist|<fontspan colorstyle="color:darkgreen"; font-size="1:x-small;">[[User talk:Dozenist|talk]]</fontspan>]] 14:36, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

::Just to let you know that I am working on the animations... [[User:Time3000|Time3000]] 11:10, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

:::Yay! That's awesome. - [[User:Dozenist|Dozenist]] [[User talk:Dozenist|<fontspan colorstyle="color:darkgreen"; font-size="1:x-small;">[[User talk:Dozenist|talk]]</fontspan>]] 13:38, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

=====Pit and fissure caries animation=====

OK, I've done an animation of pit and fissure caries. It's fairly basic, but it's fairly accurate (as far as I can tell). [[User:Time3000|Time3000]] 12:25, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

:The animation is awesome! It would fit in the article perfectly. I am sure the other animation will be just as good. - [[User:Dozenist|Dozenist]] [[User talk:Dozenist|<fontspan colorstyle="color:darkgreen"; font-size="1:x-small;">[[User talk:Dozenist|talk]]</fontspan>]] 17:50, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

=====Smooth surface caries animation=====

Okay, I ran across this request and thought it wouldn't be too hard. I've uploaded my animation of smooth surface caries to the gallery above. Let me know what you think. -- [[User:VegitaU|VegitaU]] 18:59, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

:The graphic looks amazing. I love how smooth the transition is! I have placed both animations in [[dental caries|the article]], and I think they look really good. At the end of the animation, since this new one moves so much faster, is there any way to make it pause for a second or two so the end result is clearly shown to the reader? Also, when the images are so close together in the article, the difference between the two may be a little distracting. I hate to ask since I have asked so much already, but is there anyway to modify the first animation (the pit-and-fissure caries one) to look like this one? I really love the animations and believe they add a lot to the article (which is almost ready to be sent to FAC). Thank you very much for all your hard work! - [[User:Dozenist|Dozenist]] [[User talk:Dozenist|<fontspan colorstyle="color:darkgreen"; font-size="1:x-small;">[[User talk:Dozenist|talk]]</fontspan>]] 03:22, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

::Okay, I updated the old animation to include a 2-second delay on the last frame and made a smoother the pit caries animation. Hope this helps you out. -- [[User:VegitaU|VegitaU]] 23:30, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

:::Thanks! The animations are awesome, and they look great in the article. I love it, and thanks again for the work you put in. - [[User:Dozenist|Dozenist]] [[User talk:Dozenist|<fontspan colorstyle="color:darkgreen"; font-size="1:x-small;">[[User talk:Dozenist|talk]]</fontspan>]] 00:24, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

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== {{did}} Baseball image - high priority==

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:::::My money's on WP using different scaling algorithms, either because of the different file formats, or because the PNG has an alpha channel. [[User:CountingPine|CountingPine]] 22:05, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

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== The original Mercury seven ==

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Image:177715main image feature 832 ys full.jpg|The original Mercury seven

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'''Article(s):''' Would fit into articles about [[Project Mercury]]

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* I don't know if there's very much detail available in the shadows... brightening the darkest parts of the image do make more detail available near the eyes of the person to the furthest left, and a small bit of extra detail in the eyes of the person to the furthest right. Other than that, I think brightening won't do much other than increase the noise. --[[User:Interiot|Interiot]] 23:27, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

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== Photoclinometry ==

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'''Article(s): [[Photoclinometry]]'''

'''Request:''' If someone could make an image (probably not SVG, I don't know) that depicts the process or result of photoclinometry. It would be much appreciated. &#8594;→ [[User:Icez|Icez]] {[[User talk:Icez|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Icez|contrib]]} 21:49, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

'''Graphist Opinion:'''

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:Maybe you would be better off asking at [[Wikipedia:Requested pictures]]. --[[User:DTR|Dave the Rave (DTR)]]<small>[[User_talk:DTR|talk]]</small> 21:58, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

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== {{did}} Coat of Arms of Bermuda ==

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Image:Flag of Bermuda.svg|Flag of Bermuda

Image:Coa BermudaCoat_of_arms_of_Bermuda.svg|Coat of Arms of Bermuda

Image:Flag of the Governor of Bermuda.svg|Flag of the Governor of Bermuda

Image:Bermuda-Coat-of-Arms.jpg|My attempt

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How did you make that? SVG is preferable to JPG. Could you export it as such? If not I will use your edition as base for an SVG. Cheers--[[User:Cronholm144|Cronholm]]^{[[User talk:Cronholm144|144]]} 00:16, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

:I took the black and white outline off the PDF file the requestor provided, enlarged it, and used a [[Wacom (company)|Wacom]] tablet to paint it bit by bit based on a ''really'' crappy low-res color image of ''part'' of the Coat of Arms. You'd think the Government of Bermuda website would proudly display their flag, but no... it looks like I have to fly to Bermuda for a decent shot of seeing the real thing.

:Anyways, I'm not proficient enough, it seemes, with Inkscape to make an SVG of this. I just haven't worked with that type of file type. If you upload an SVG version of this, please upload it to Image:Bermuda-Coat-of-Arms-SVG.svg on the Commons. My attempt didn't work and there's no reason not to overwrite it. Thanks. -- [[User:VegitaU|VegitaU]] 01:10, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

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Perhaps someone should send an E-mail to Bermuda telling them that we finished their COA for them :-)--[[User:Cronholm144|Cronholm]]^{[[User talk:Cronholm144|144]]} 02:21, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

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=={{did}} Scouting in Laos==

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Image:Laos.jpg|large scan of the badge, shows color scheme, but it is dark and shows badly on some monitors

Image:Laosfull.jpg|older small line art of the badge, but it shows the scroll and knot and text that the newer one does not

Image:LaosScouts_Lao.svg|first edit

Image:Laosfullcoloremblem.jpg|my crude rendition of the way I intended the request

Image:Lao Scout Motto.svg|[[Scout Motto]] in the [[Lao language]], converted to an SVG path

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'''Article(s):''' [[Scouting in Laos]]

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*Beautiful, perfect, spot-on! Thank you! [[User:Kintetsubuffalo|Chris]] 21:32, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

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=={{did}} Ethiopia Scout Association==

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Image:Ethiopia Scout Association membership badge.png|small and grainy but shows present color scheme and proportions

Image:EthiopiaScouts.jpg|larger line art showing text on scroll, 1970s shape and proportions

Image:EthiopiaScoutsEthiopia_Scout_Association.svg|larger line art showing text on scroll, 1970s shape and proportions svg version 1

Image:Ethiopia Scout Association membership badgeEthiopia_Scout_Association_1977.svg|Second update

Image:EthiopiaScoutbadge.jpg|I uploaded this for illustration, I think Rugby471 is correct in that the green trefoil should be large as he has it

Image:Zegeju.svg|The text: ዝግጁ ({{IPA|[zə.ɡə.dʒu]}}, "ready")

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'''Article(s):''' [[Ethiopia Scout Association]]

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'''Graphist opinion:'''

Okay, i'll get to work on creating a vector. <span style="color:blue;font-weight:bold;font-family: Monotype Corsiva;"> > [[User:Rugby471|Rugby471]] ^{[[User_talk:Rugby471|talk]]}</span> <span style="font-size: 17pt;">&#9876;⚔</span> 15:41, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

First update on it is above, I will continuing working on it ''(obviously)'', but if there is anything you object to, please say now. <span style="color:blue;font-weight:bold;font-family: Monotype Corsiva;"> > [[User:Rugby471|Rugby471]] ^{[[User_talk:Rugby471|talk]]}</span> <span style="font-size: 17pt;">&#9876;⚔</span> 16:17, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

:What a great start, thank you so much! I really like what you've done; I think the narrower left hand scaling is the more modern variant, however. At this point though I think either scaling will be great! Thanks again! [[User:Kintetsubuffalo|Chris]] 16:41, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

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Thanks I will get on it. There is the lion, its rough because I had to base it off of a very pixelated image but I think if someone synthesizes the two it will be done. I can't download svgs for some reason so it will have to be someone else--[[User:Cronholm144|Cronholm]]^{[[User talk:Cronholm144|144]]} 04:36, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

Uploaded a second update, changed the colors to match Cronholm's one and added the 'banner thing' at the bottom. Only thing now is the lion, unfortunately I can't do it as I don't have enough time. '''@Cronholm''', if that is the finished lion then tell me and i'll put it in my SVG, if it isn't could you upload ( with your svg ) the finished one, cheers. <span style="color:blue;font-weight:bold;font-family: Monotype Corsiva;"> > [[User:Rugby471|Rugby471]] ^{[[User_talk:Rugby471|talk]]}</span> <span style="font-size: 17pt;">&#9876;⚔</span> 16:43, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

Hey Rugby, I will work on the lion tonight, I think that we should go with the colour scheme in the newest badge, the colours that I picked were awful and last minute. Also, looking at the new badge it appears that they are using the non-uniform star, should we switch? Anyway, I would go ahead and finish everything up by combining yours and mine for a final version but I can't download svg (or I just don't know how). So I think that we should combine my scroll and your trefoil. And maybe switch the stars, then its just a matter of adding the lion.--[[User:Cronholm144|Cronholm]]^{[[User talk:Cronholm144|144]]} 17:36, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

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:Cool, as regards to downloading SVG, there are two ways,

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2) Go to the SVG's page, and below the image where it says ''****.svg‎ (file size: 133 KB, MIME type: image/svg+xml)'' and '''left''' click on that, and on the new page displaying the SVG (we are not on wikipedia any more) '''right''' click and select '''''View Page Source''''', there you have the SVG code, now paste all of this into a text document and remember to save it as a .svg, and you have your SVG !

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Unfortunately my computer doesn't give svg as an option, and that is at the heart of my troubles. I think it is the fact that I use Vista...sigh.--[[User:Cronholm144|Cronholm]]^{[[User talk:Cronholm144|144]]} 21:42, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

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Corrected colors and added the Lion to my Version <span style="color:blue;font-weight:bold;font-family: Monotype Corsiva;"> > [[User:Rugby471|Rugby471]] ^{[[User_talk:Rugby471|talk]]}</span> <span style="font-size: 17pt;">&#9876;⚔</span> 06:57, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

:This is nigh perfect! Thank you so much to all! I have put in a language request to every user at [[:Category:User am]] for their help with the text on the scroll itself; maybe we can get a transliteration out of it as well, as Akiramenai has so graciously done with the Farsi text below. [[User:Kintetsubuffalo|Chris]] 07:40, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

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:::::I've created an SVG version of this word with the text converted to a path. Wikimedia doesn't have the font installed to render this otherwise. See [[:Image:Zegeju.svg]]. I placed my part of creating it in the public ___domain, so feel free to integrate it into the other two SVGs. [[User talk:Mike Dillon|Mike Dillon]] 18:51, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

Okay I'll put them in <span style="color:blue;font-weight:bold;font-family: Monotype Corsiva;"> > [[User:Rugby471|Rugby471]] ^{[[User_talk:Rugby471|talk]]}</span> <span style="font-size: 17pt;">&#9876;⚔</span>

:This is really coming out nicely, yeah, GraphicsLab! Three thoughts:

*Please even out both sides of the green scroll-the wraparound on the right side is cleaner looking as it shows it to be three dimensional

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Image:Burmachintheforrequest.jpg|shows the griffin-like supporters that need to be in red along both sides of the central petal

Image:BurmachintheforrequestChinthe_(left_facing)_red.svg

Image:BurmaScoutKinhtauk.png|text for the scroll

Image:BurmaScoutKinhtaukUnion_of_Burma_Boy_Scouts_Kinhtauk.svg|text for the scroll

Image:BurmanewerUnion_of_Burma_Boy_Scouts_1950.svg

Image:Burma-1coloredin.jpg|to illustrate where there are a couple of ''minor'' discrepancies

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'''Article(s):''' [[Scouting in Burma]]

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The white rmval will come last... I don't know if there is a way to keep the spaces and have a uniform pic. Look closely at the raw you provided. There are no spaces. As for the hate, I took an oath to give back more than it gave to me... so it's really the least I can do.--[[User:Cronholm144|Cronholm]]^{[[User talk:Cronholm144|144]]} 12:34, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

[[Image:BurmaScoutKinhtaukUnion_of_Burma_Boy_Scouts_Kinhtauk.svg|thumb|right|200px]]

:On the text I put and the one you reformatted, there are clearly spaces between both sets of characters. When either image is expanded, the spaces are clear. Perhaps I am not explaining myself well. Above the second character, and again above the last character, there are c shapes, not connected to the main letter. These should also not be connected in the image itself. [[User:Kintetsubuffalo|Chris]] 02:16, 3 July 2007 (UTC)