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The result was '''KEEP'''. '''[[User:Postdlf|postdlf]]''' (''[[User talk:Postdlf|talk]]'') 00:36, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
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PROD contested with no reason given. No outside verifiable significant coverage to establish notability. [[User: Yaksar|Yaksar]] [[User talk: Yaksar|(let's chat)]] 21:47, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
*For the purposes of transparency, I should probably point out that for the same reasons I nominated
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*'''Keep''' There are 4 journal articles about it listed in the article's References. The third-party peer review involved in getting a journal article accepted+published makes these sufficiently independent for notability purposes. --[[User:Cybercobra|<b><font color="3773A5">Cyber</font></b><font color="FFB521">cobra</font>]] [[User talk:Cybercobra|(talk)]] 03:48, 28 February 2011 (UTC)▼
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*'''Keep''' There area also a number of derivative works referencing this work in google scholar. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/121.45.34.160|121.45.34.160]] ([[User talk:121.45.34.160|talk]]) 12:57, 28 February 2011 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->▼
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*All were nominated using the back door deletion process called PROD. It allows a single person to tag the article, and if uncontested for a few days any editor with delete privileges can delete it, without any public review outside of the obscure PROD list. Especially sneaky considering the Keep outcome at the last AFD for some of them. --[[User:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )]] ([[User talk:Richard Arthur Norton (1958- )|talk]]) 21:49, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
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▲*'''Keep''' There are 4 journal articles about it listed in the article's References. The third-party peer review involved in getting a journal article accepted+published makes these sufficiently independent for notability purposes, at least in my view. --[[User:Cybercobra|<b
*'''Keep''' There area also a number of derivative works referencing this work in google scholar. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/121.45.34.160|121.45.34.160]] ([[User talk:121.45.34.160|talk]]) 12:57, 28 February 2011 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> <s><small>— [[Special:Contributions/121.45.34.160|121.45.34.160]] ([[User talk:121.45.34.160|talk]]) has made [[Wikipedia:Single-purpose account|few or no other edits]] outside this topic. </small></s> <small>internode.com.au dynamic IP users have made numerous Wikipedia edits, such as this one: 2009-04-09 121.45.34.101 Operating system. [[User:Unscintillating|Unscintillating]] ([[User talk:Unscintillating|talk]]) 23:45, 1 March 2011 (UTC)</small>
*'''Keep''' as above. —''[[User:Ruud Koot|Ruud]]'' 21:34, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' I want to say I have no real desire to have this article deleted. However, I need to point out that, given that the four references in the article are all written by it's creator, you're going to actually need to refer to at least one other source that can be considered reliable.--[[User: Yaksar|Yaksar]] [[User talk: Yaksar|(let's chat)]] 08:53, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
** [[Nick Benton]], [[Luca Cardelli]], [[Cédric Fournet]]. "[http://portal.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=1018205 Modern concurrency abstractions for C#]". ''ACM Transactions on Programming Languages and Systems'' '''26''' (5): <blockquote>The work that is most closely related to Polyphonic C# is that on Join Java [Itzstein and Kearney 2001, 2002]. Join Java, which was initially designed at about the same time as Polyphonic C#, takes almost exactly the same approach to integrating join calculus in a modern object-oriented language. Apart from minor variations of syntax, the main language differences appear to be that Join Java takes a more restrictive approach to inheritance than Polyphonic C# (simply outlawing inheritance from any class that uses join patterns) and that Join Java also allows the programmer to specify whether pattern matching within a class should be sequential or nondeterministic. The implementation of Join Java uses a tree-based pattern-matching library; some further details are given by Itzstein and Jasiunas [2003].</blockquote> —''[[User:Ruud Koot|Ruud]]'' 12:04, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
***So throw that in the article! I don't know how much clearer I can make it, I have no issue with this article's existence provided it has accurate, independent and verifiable sources.--[[User: Yaksar|Yaksar]] [[User talk: Yaksar|(let's chat)]] 21:51, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
****That being said, the source just seems to say that Polyphonic C# is similar to this, it's not really more than trivial coverage.--[[User: Yaksar|Yaksar]] [[User talk: Yaksar|(let's chat)]] 00:38, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
** http://ijcsit.com/docs/vol1issue1/ijcsit2010010101.pdf Asynchronous method invocation in Join java and polyphonic c#
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