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The result was '''keep'''. -- '''[[User:Cirt|Cirt]]''' ([[User talk:Cirt|talk]]) 00:57, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
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An unremarkable software package. It has no [[WP:R|third-party references]] to support [[WP:N|notability]]. Borderline advert. [[User:Wizard191|Wizard191]] ([[User talk:Wizard191|talk]]) 14:06, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
Gee, your way off base here. This is an open source project and is a very remarkable software and is activity being developed <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/209.65.78.60|209.65.78.60]] ([[User talk:209.65.78.60|talk]]) 14:22, 29 September 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
We believe we have over 3000 users worldwide using this software. It is hard to count, as many of them never contact us once they are up and running. I sell hardware that is supported by EMC2, and have sold close to 200 of these systems.
*'''Strong keep''' If you look at the history of this project, you will see that it is more than just a software application- it is a project that is similar to Gimp, Firefox, or any other large scale project with a lot of momentum going towards it's development. The community of developers and users behind it have learned to work together in a remarkable way, that promotes continuous improvement. The project also has influenced other open source projects (and closed source projects for that matter) in the field of CADCAM software. --[[User:Ddfalck2002|Ddfalck2002]] ([[User talk:Ddfalck2002|talk]]) 05:02, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
<del>*Weak delete. I think this could definitely be notable in the future as development continues- and as more refs come available from the tech press- but for now, unless someone can provide independent refs (which I could not find in a cursory I-search) it should go.</del> [[User:Eskimo.the|The Eskimo]] ([[User talk:Eskimo.the|talk]]) 14:43, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
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* '''keep''': EMC is an influential Open Source package that has been used in the manufacturing industry in the US, Europe, and around the world (Argentina, Middle East, Vietnam). It has a dedicated user and developer community on http://sourceforge.net/projects/emc/ and http://linuxcnc.org . The article is a work in progress---it started without references and attributions, which was probably the weakness that prompted Wizard191's criticism; this is being addressed in the current version. Current tally has several keeps and strong keeps; could Wizard191 please reevaluate?
*'''Strong keep''' Not mentioned here is the very active IRC channel on #freenode The log (found here http://www.linuxcnc.org/irc/irc.freenode.net:6667/emc/) dates back to 2004. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/201.218.48.3|201.218.48.3]] ([[User talk:201.218.48.3|talk]]) 03:46, 30 September 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
*'''keep''' In the absence of any explanation from Wizard191 as to why he flagged up 'delete' on an article that was obviously work in progress when all that was required at that stage was to flag up what HE thought was missing - references. I think this flag should simply be removed as it has no relevance to the current content and a more appropriate direction flag added if that IS now required? Probably the main reason he could not find anything when searching for Enhanced_Machine_Controller was because everybody refers to it as EMC or EMC2, but THAT is not an appropriate wikipedia page title? [[User:Lsces|Lsces]] ([[User talk:Lsces|talk]]) 06:59, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
*'''Strong keep''' from a user of this software for several years. There is no other, and this includes the commercial offerings, that has the combined list of features this package has. It can control on-off channels of almost any count, limited by the hardware available in the computer for i/o, and can control 9 actual methods of motion to accuracies limited by the thermal characteristics of the machine being controlled.
An open source project under constant development for well over a decade, I have been running it 5 or 6 years myself. It needs to be included on wikipedia. --[[Special:Contributions/204.111.67.76|204.111.67.76]] ([[User talk:204.111.67.76|talk]]) 10:45, 30 September 2010 (UTC)Signed by Gene Heskett
*'''STRONG keep''' I currently use EMC2 in an industrial process, to control a guing machine for photovoltaic panel building. I really think EMC2 is a "must be considered" software for anyone that have any moving machine to control at low-cost but still with excellent performances and possibilities. It has a very good user community, active developpement, the article contains lots of references, I really don't understand why it should be deleted. Please consider let it alive ! I can make the french translation of it if needed. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/82.253.206.218|82.253.206.218]] ([[User talk:82.253.206.218|talk]]) 11:08, 30 September 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
* '''keep''' Please, Wizard191, could you explain us why you wan this article to be removed ? It's a very new one, quite short for now, but sure it will be added lots of informations in the next days/weeks. For the moment, I think that the wikipedia 'run for references' way leads in an article containing more references lines to tech papers than explanation on the article purpose itself. Sounds a bit stupid, isn't it ? Moreover, I really do not understand how someone member of Metalworking group can ask for the deletion of a EMC2 related article, as this software is widlely known and used in the hobby machining/metalworking community, worldwide. And even used by proffessional metalworkers ! So please keep this article alive ! <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Bricofoy|Bricofoy]] ([[User talk:Bricofoy|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Bricofoy|contribs]]) 11:41, 30 September 2010 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
* '''Strong keep''' '"unremarkable software package"' I suppose that is why so many people use it? Perhaps Wizard191 is involved in the use/production of proprietary software the competes with EMC2 <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/63.245.153.165|63.245.153.165]] ([[User talk:63.245.153.165|talk]]) 23:26, 30 September 2010 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
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