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The result was '''delete'''. [[User:Spartaz|Spartaz]] ^{''[[User talk:Spartaz|Humbug!]]''} 06:06, 23 July 2011 (UTC)

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*'''Delete'''. No evidence it passes [[WP:GNG]]. [[User:DeVerm]] is known for making [[WP:POINT]]-violating votes, and is again going it here. He should probably be banned from wasting administrator's time, but in the mean time, he should just be ignored. [[User:FuFoFuEd|FuFoFuEd]] ([[User talk:FuFoFuEd|talk]]) 03:46, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

:* oh, that is nice of you; what happened to [[WP:AGF]]? Also, pls enlighten us all and show where my editing and/or WP involvement was ever brought to any board. My slate is clean my friend and it's you who should study [[WP:POINT]] again and stop your unwarranted personal attack. --[[User:DeVerm|DeVerm]] ([[User talk:DeVerm|talk]]) 04:24, 17 July 2011 (UTC).

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For what it is worth regarding notibility, if you read the "forum" comments inat mythe end of the article (at the Code Project web site), it should be evident that my work has been used as a published source to create similar backup software and is also likely to have been used aas a template for authoring new threading software using OOD techniques in the article. Unfortunately those "students" of my work are not likely to have published a reference to my work. It should be obvious however that the article itself is a learning aide and that the Code Project is actually referencing my work, which I published from my laptop to the code project web site. The code project in this context is the publisher...--[[User:Howartthou|Howartthou]] ([[User talk:Howartthou|talk]]) 12:08, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

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Hi All, I have just "moved" the article to [[Multithreading Backup Utility]] and changed the emphasis and also added some "notability" for your feedback.--[[User:Howartthou|Howartthou]] ([[User talk:Howartthou|talk]]) 12:08, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

I should apolgise for "moving" the entry, I did not read the deletion notice properly until just now. Hope this link helps: [[Multithreading Backup Utility]]

[[User:Howartthou|Howartthou]] ([[User talk:Howartthou|talk]]) 12:05, 17 July 2011 (UTC)--[[User:Howartthou|Howartthou]] ([[User talk:Howartthou|talk]]) 12:05, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

:Howartthou, thank you for revealing your [[WP:COI|conflict of interest]] in regard to this topic. The external links you have added are primarily forum postings, a form of [[WP:SPS|self-published source]] that do not indicate significant notability. --[[User:NatGertler|Nat Gertler]] ([[User talk:NatGertler|talk]]) 12:33, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

Oy Vey, since when did "conflict of interest" as a term become wikipedia specific?? And where is the notability of this new wikipedia specific term called "conflict of interest"? I am sure wikipedia is full of terms and definitions ("conflict of interest" being a perfect example of wikipedia itself inventing terms without notability. The article now meets wiki requirements better than many existing terms in wiki I am sure...I suspect you are being [[hypocritical]]. --[[User:Howartthou|Howartthou]] ([[User talk:Howartthou|talk]]) 22:44, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

:If there are other articles which you feel may be in violation of policies and guidelines, I recommend that you raise those issues on the talk pages of those articles. If you wish to make vague accusations against me, I suggest that you use my talk page; you will find a link to it at the end of this message. --[[User:NatGertler|Nat Gertler]] ([[User talk:NatGertler|talk]]) 22:54, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

Well, i have yet to understand your discrimation against forums as a notable reference?? I also do not understand how a forum posting is "self published". I did not publish these references, other people and experts did that, I don't even know them. Please clarify, I read the wiki defnition and still don't see how the references are "self published". By the way, I did not intend to make accusations against you, and if I did it is by want of a better choice of words. Everything I have said here I believe relevant to the definition in question. I don't think I need to be redirected to other areas of wiki. I am responding here to this article, as per its purpose, I remain unconvinced regarding your notability point and do not wish to digress from the purpose of this "right of reply" to your proposal to delete his entry. I believe I have revised the article in accordance with your concerns and wiki requirements. --[[User:Howartthou|Howartthou]] ([[User talk:Howartthou|talk]]) 02:06, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

:The discrimination against forums as a source of reference is not mine; it is listed specifically in [[WP:SPS]]: "self-published media, such as books, patents, newsletters, personal websites, open wikis, personal or group blogs, ''Internet forum postings'', and tweets, are largely not acceptable as sources" (emphasis added). Basically, anyone can post any fool thing on a forum; with little or no gatekeeping going on, it doesn't suggest that what is said is either accurate or of import. To use one example, one of the links you added was to [http://deepdictionary.com/webmaster-other-topics/782366-multithreading-backup-utility.html this entry] on a Deep Dictionary forum, where a junior member named "eneas" pasted a copy of the article, and it received no responses. Is "eneas" some expert? Some bot? You? Add in the facts that no claim is made there about the article - its usefulness, its importance, or anything but its source - and that the forum entry has gotten zero responses, and that it's on a site where no one has posted anything in the past eight months, and where the purposes of the forum is obscured (they tell you to read the FAQ, and the FAQ is blank) and I'm at a loss to see how that could be by any definition indicate notability. -[[User:NatGertler|Nat Gertler]] ([[User talk:NatGertler|talk]]) 02:55, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

Okay Nat, that (Deep Dictionary) wasn't the best reference I agree, in fact it is probably the worst, but it does not mean it has not been viewed numerous times, nor does it mean that it wasn't used to find the original article. I agree that particlar reference is quite weak on appearances. But definately not "self published", and certainly nothing to do with me. Regardless, I have done all I can to respond to your concerns, I don't think there is much more I can do, and not much more I can add to what I have already said. --[[User:Howartthou|Howartthou]] ([[User talk:Howartthou|talk]]) 05:33, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

*'''Delete''' - I can't find any sources to establish notability and what is present in the article fails to meet what would be considered [[WP:RS|reliable sources]]. -- [[User:Whpq|Whpq]] ([[User talk:Whpq|talk]]) 15:12, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

*'''Delete''' fails [[WP:GNG]] / [[WP:RS]]. [[User:Stuartyeates|Stuartyeates]] ([[User talk:Stuartyeates|talk]]) 23:48, 22 July 2011 (UTC)

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