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The result was '''keep'''. –[[User talk:MuZemike|MuZemike]] 23:26, 22 December 2011 (UTC)
===[[Graphics Layout Engine]]===
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:<small class="delsort-notice">Note: This debate has been included in the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Software|list of Software-related deletion discussions]]. <!--Template:Deletion sorting--></small> <small>[[User:Gene93k|• Gene93k]] ([[User talk:Gene93k|talk]]) 01:44, 15 December 2011 (UTC)</small>
*<del>'''Delete''' - I could not establish notability either. --[[User:Kvng|Kvng]] ([[User talk:Kvng|talk]]) 03:18, 15 December 2011 (UTC)</del>
*'''Keep''' - search reveals a lot of [[WP:NSOFT]]-compliant sources. — [[User:Czarkoff|Dmitrij D. Czarkoff]] ([[User talk:Czarkoff|talk]]) 11:44, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
*:Would you post them? I couldn't easily find them. – [[User:Pnm|Pnm]] ([[User talk:Pnm|talk]]) 15:03, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
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*::::This is a brief second search in one search engine, which proves the ability of development for this software. Furthermore, it is used in other products, so more detail search can reveal more links. I don't think that "''I don't care''" is a good reason to make any actions. — [[User:Czarkoff|Dmitrij D. Czarkoff]] ([[User talk:Czarkoff|talk]]) 19:06, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
*::::: I looked for better sources, but didn't find anything suitable. There's nothing in Books except Wikipedia books. One bullet point on one set of slides in Scholar. I agree that "I don't care" isn't a good reason to delete, but it's not a good reason to keep, either. – [[User:Pnm|Pnm]] ([[User talk:Pnm|talk]]) 20:29, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
*::::Pnm, why do you not consider these to be reliable? They look pretty good to me. I now understand what GLE is. I have withdrawn my vote until I hear back. --[[User:Kvng|Kvng]] ([[User talk:Kvng|talk]]) 15:01, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
*:::::Neither self-published sources such as blogs nor sites which provide user-generated content are normally considered reliable sources. See [[Wikipedia:RS#Self-published_and_questionable_sources]]. – [[User:Pnm|Pnm]] ([[User talk:Pnm|talk]]) 21:00, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' per [[WP:N]] for lack of significant coverage in reliable sources. – [[User:Pnm|Pnm]] ([[User talk:Pnm|talk]]) 15:54, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
*'''Keep''' - I've added three additional references to GLE's page. As far as I know, there is no official book about GLE. Is this required for an open source software project to have earn an entry on Wikipedia? [[User:Janstruyf|Janstruyf]] ([[User talk:Janstruyf|talk]]) 13:21, 18 December 2011 (UTC)
*:Please sign Your comments! — [[User:Czarkoff|Dmitrij D. Czarkoff]] ([[User talk:Czarkoff|talk]]) 17:06, 18 December 2011 (UTC)
*::No, there doesn't need to be an official book. The general notability guideline is explained pretty simply in this essay: [[WP:42]]. – [[User:Pnm|Pnm]] ([[User talk:Pnm|talk]]) 17:14, 18 December 2011 (UTC)
*'''Comment''': The first reference is not independent of the subject. The second reference is a download page. The third reference is unreliable. The fourth reference is a download page. How does that show notability? [[User:SL93|SL93]] ([[User talk:SL93|talk]]) 15:05, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
**And the three references above - The first one is a blog. The second one is a blog. The third one allows news submissions from anyone. Really? [[User:SL93|SL93]] ([[User talk:SL93|talk]]) 15:08, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
*'''Keep''' - Changing vote. Czarkoff refs establish notability. My reading of [[WP:USERG]] does not disqualify them. People out there clearly think this is a useful utility. --[[User:Kvng|Kvng]] ([[User talk:Kvng|talk]]) 01:06, 20 December 2011 (UTC)
*:[[WP:SPS]] says "self-published media ... are largely not acceptable" and offers only two exceptions: (1) published experts and (2) sources writing about themselves. How does [[WP:USERG]] not disqualify all three of the sources Czarkoff posted? – [[User:Pnm|Pnm]] ([[User talk:Pnm|talk]]) 01:31, 20 December 2011 (UTC)
*::I do not read the list of [[WP:USERG]] exceptions as exhaustive. The refs are a bit better than a blog or a forum. My personal criteria for [[WP:RS]] establishing notability is more permissive than for citations. --[[User:Kvng|Kvng]] ([[User talk:Kvng|talk]]) 03:57, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
*'''Keep''' - GLE definitely worth an entry in Wikipedia. It's an active open-source software useful for documents producing. May be the actual entry should be completed with some examples of scripts and output results? --[[Special:Contributions/84.100.6.215|84.100.6.215]] ([[User talk:84.100.6.215|talk]]) 08:33, 22 December 2011 (UTC)
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