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==== [[Template:Infobox Finnish municipality]] ====
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The result of the discussion was '''no consensus'''<!-- Tfd top -->. Looks like the technical feasibility of replacement needs to be investigated more. [[User:Galobtter|Galobtter]] ([[User talk:Galobtter|pingó mió]]) 16:31, 12 May 2019 (UTC)
* {{Tfd links|Infobox Finnish municipality|module=}}
'''Convert to use {{tl|Infobox settlement}}'''. After looking into the code of this template, it appears that the only reason for a custom template is so that the data can be stored in templates. For example [[Template:Infobox Finnish municipality/land area]] stores the land area for every single Finnish municipality. This is NOT the convention for storing this data. Values should be stored directly on the page, not in some convoluted series of templates. '''[[User:Zackmann08|<span style="color:#00ced1">Zack</span><span style="color:#007F94">mann</span>]]''' (<sup>[[User_talk:Zackmann08|Talk to me]]</sup>/<sub>[[Special:Contributions/Zackmann08|<span style="color:orange;">What I been doing</span>]]</sub>) 20:39, 22 February 2019 (UTC)
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<small>Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — [[User:JJMC89|JJMC89]] <small>([[User talk:JJMC89|T]]'''·'''[[Special:Contributions/JJMC89|C]])</small> 21:00, 6 April 2019 (UTC)</small><!-- from Template:Relist --></div><!-- Please add new comments below this line -->
*In light of the DRV discussion, I think it's clear this template should be '''kept''' without prejudice to renomination if someone who's well acquainted with the intricate functionality of the template is willing to support change and is prepared to put it in the apparently high amount of effort needed to implement that change. – [[User talk:Uanfala|Uanfala (talk)]] 00:45, 7 April 2019 (UTC)
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==== [[Template:EngvarB]] ====
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The result of the discussion was '''keep'''<!-- Tfd top -->. — [[User:JJMC89|JJMC89]] <small>([[User talk:JJMC89|T]]'''·'''[[Special:Contributions/JJMC89|C]])</small> 00:44, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
* {{Tfd links|EngvarB}}
Similar to below but different as this would require more discrimination: these should all be replaced with an appropriate regional English variant. If none can be determined, then I suggest using {{tl|EngvarB spelling}} or {{tl|EngvarC spelling}} as necessary. The logic is mostly the same, just the implementation and logistics are more complex. ―[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 21:01, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
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*'''Snow Keep''' - Wrong venue. See below. - [[User:BilCat|BilCat]] ([[User talk:BilCat|talk]]) 23:13, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
*'''Keep''' also has the advantage of not spawning more divisiveness over sub-sub-sub-varieties of English, nor requiring knowledge of same from editors. All the best: ''[[User:Rich Farmbrough|Rich]] [[User talk:Rich Farmbrough|Farmbrough]]'',<small> 13:26, 7 April 2019 (UTC).</small><br />
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==== No-display English variant types ====
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The result of the discussion was '''speedy keep'''<!-- Tfd top -->. Clear consensus for keeping these templates. <small>[[Wikipedia:NACD|(non-admin closure)]]</small> Regards, [[User:SshibumXZ|SshibumXZ]] ([[User talk:SshibumXZ|talk]] '''·''' [[Special:Contribs/SshibumXZ|contribs]]). 13:22, 12 May 2019 (UTC)
* {{Tfd links|Use American English}}
* {{Tfd links|Use Australian English}}
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*::::I'm pretty sure that is because how those are coded. If I take your example then inside {{cl|Pages with Livescores editnotice}} I checked [[Template:Editnotices/Page/2015 FIFA Club World Cup]], which uses {{tl|Livescores editnotice}}, which has an includeonly {{cl|Pages with Livescores editnotice}}. However, if you add a category to {{tl|Editnotices/Page/2015 FIFA Club World Cup}}, then pages using it will be added to that category. See for example [[User:Gonnym/sandbox]] which is placed in {{tl|Test}}. --[[User:Gonnym|Gonnym]] ([[User talk:Gonnym|talk]]) 12:26, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
*:::::No, that's one page ([[User:Gonnym/sandbox]]) transcluding another ([[User:Gonnym/sandbox/tests3]]) as if it were a template. No editnotice is involved. Put it another way: if you add a category to [[Template:Editnotices/Page/User:Gonnym/sandbox]], it will not affect the categorisation of [[User:Gonnym/sandbox]] in any way whatsoever. Also, what does {{tl|Test}} have to do with anything? It's a notice that is normally [[WP:SUBST]]d to a user talk page. --[[User:Redrose64|<span style="color:#a80000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64]] 🌹 ([[User talk:Redrose64|talk]]) 22:07, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
*::::::I meant [[:Category:Test]] (my sandbox has since changed so not relevant anymore). --[[User:Gonnym|Gonnym]] ([[User talk:Gonnym|talk]]) 21:53, 19 April 2019 (UTC)
*'''Keep''' While Koavf is correct that opening a section will ensure that you don't see the template I think that there is less change of seeing a notice tucked away on the talk page. I rarely look at the talk page before editing an article. [[User:CambridgeBayWeather|CambridgeBayWeather]], [[User talk:CambridgeBayWeather|Uqaqtuq (talk)]], [[Special:Contributions/CambridgeBayWeather|Sunasuttuq]] 09:59, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
**{{Ping|CambridgeBayWeather}} No one is suggesting putting anything on talk pages. What are you talking about? ―[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 20:17, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
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****{{tl|American English}}, {{tl|British English}}, {{tl|Commonwealth English}} templates, destined for talk page, creates a banner about the English code used in the associated article. These should not be confused with the "Use [variant] English" templates, that have a script-based functionality. --<small><span style="background-color:#ffffff;border: 1px solid;">[[User:Ohconfucius|'''<span style="color:#000000; background-color:#EEE8AA"> Ohc </span>''']]</span></small>[[User talk:Ohconfucius|<sup>''¡digame!''</sup>]] 20:51, 12 April 2019 (UTC)
*'''
*'''Keep some of the templates.''' Redrose64 makes some good points. I think that we should definitely keep the {{tl|Use American English}}, {{tl|Use British English}}, {{tl|Use British English Oxford spelling}} and {{tl|Use Canadian English}} templates. Should the community decide to delete the rest, I would support the amalgamation of the deleted into {{tl|EngvarB}} per Ohconfucius. Nevertheless, at this time, I don't see why the {{Tl|Use Australian English}}, {{Tl|Use Bangladeshi English}}, {{Tl|Use Commonwealth English}}, {{Tl|Use Hong Kong English}}, {{Tl|Use Indian English}}, {{Tl|Use Irish English}}, {{Tl|Use Jamaican English}}, {{Tl|Use New Zealand English}}, {{Tl|Use Nigerian English}}, {{Tl|Use Pakistani English}}, {{Tl|Use Singapore English}}, {{Tl|Use South African English}} and {{Tl|Use Trinidadian English}} templates should be deleted. When they are used, they provide the benefit of allowing an editor to see the variant of English an article uses by viewing the article in the wikitext editor. —[[User:Ntmamgtw|Ntmamgtw]] ([[User talk:Ntmamgtw|talk]]) 15:29, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
*'''Keep''' as per {{u|Redrose64}} —[[User:Joeyconnick|Joeyconnick]] ([[User talk:Joeyconnick|talk]]) 16:57, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' - Can this be closed? Thanks. - [[User:BilCat|BilCat]] ([[User talk:BilCat|talk]]) 19:46, 7 May 2019 (UTC)
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==== [[Template:2019–20 Eredivisie table]] ====
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:''The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the template below. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the template's [[Help:Using talk pages|talk page]] or in a [[Wikipedia:Deletion review|deletion review]]).''
The result of the discussion was '''delete'''<!-- Tfd top -->.
* {{Tfd links|2019–20 Eredivisie table}}
Based on [[Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Football/Archive_122#An_issue_with_templates_and_a_suggestion|this thread]] at [[WT:FOOTY]]. Only recently we got rid of seperate template pages for standing tables of eredivisie seasons. So there's no valid reason to start creating one for the next season. Against consensus. Speedy deletion might aplly. [[User:Sb008|Sb008]] ([[User talk:Sb008|talk]]) 19:25, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
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==== PATCO S-line templates ====
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The result of the discussion was '''delete'''<!-- Tfd top -->. — [[User:JJMC89|JJMC89]] <small>([[User talk:JJMC89|T]]'''·'''[[Special:Contributions/JJMC89|C]])</small> 00:42, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
* {{Tfd links|PATCO color}}
* {{Tfd links|PATCO infobox header}}
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Superseded by [[Module:Adjacent stations/PATCO]]. All transclusions replaced. [[User:Mackensen|Mackensen]] [[User_talk:Mackensen|(talk)]] 14:06, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
* '''Delete''' per nom.--[[User:Tom (LT)|Tom (LT)]] ([[User talk:Tom (LT)|talk]]) 22:42, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
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==== [[Template:Galatasaray SK Women's Volleyball Team Seasons]] ====
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The result of the discussion was '''delete'''<!-- Tfd top -->. <small>[[Wikipedia:NACD|(non-admin closure)]]</small> [[User:DannyS712|DannyS712]] ([[User talk:DannyS712|talk]]) 00:13, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
* {{Tfd links|Galatasaray SK Women's Volleyball Team Seasons}}
1 blue link out of 59 links. Very useless. [[User:Gonnym|Gonnym]] ([[User talk:Gonnym|talk]]) 12:40, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
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*'''Delete''' per nominator. Not enough links.[[User:WilliamJE|...William]], is the complaint department really on [[User talk:WilliamJE|the roof?]] 14:18, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
* '''Delete''' per nom.--[[User:Tom (LT)|Tom (LT)]] ([[User talk:Tom (LT)|talk]]) 22:42, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
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==== [[Template:Cast list needed]] ====
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==== [[Template:Dynamite Boy]] ====
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The result of the discussion was '''delete'''<!-- Tfd top -->. <small>[[Wikipedia:NACD|(non-admin closure)]]</small> [[User:DannyS712|DannyS712]] ([[User talk:DannyS712|talk]]) 00:14, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
* {{Tfd links|Dynamite Boy}}
A red link farm; trimming this down to just the blue links wouldn't leave much. Only used in two articles and not a useful navigation aid. [[User:PC78|PC78]] ([[User talk:PC78|talk]]) 02:12, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
*'''Delete'''. The red links belong in the main article while the two "Related Articles" go in a See Also section. The template itself is just filler. [[User:SteveStrummer|SteveStrummer]] ([[User talk:SteveStrummer|talk]]) 05:13, 7 April 2019 (UTC)
*'''Delete'''. Nothing to navigate. '''--[[User:Woodensuperman|<span style="background:yellow; color:red;;">wooden</span>]][[User talk:Woodensuperman|<span style="background:yellow; color:blue;;">superman</span>]]''' 14:40, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
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==== [[Template:Cr-BBL]] ====
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* '''Delete''' serves even less use than the IPL ones I nominated. [[User:Joseph2302|<b style="color:#CCCC00">Joseph</b>]][[User talk:Joseph2302|<b style="color:#00FF00">2302</b>]] ([[User talk:Joseph2302|talk)]] 06:14, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' unused in article space, template is just a shortcut to adding a link. [[User:Spike 'em|Spike 'em]] ([[User talk:Spike 'em|talk]]) 10:55, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' per the [[Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2019_April_5#Template:Cr-IPL|IPL discussion]]. '''[[User:Lugnuts|<
*'''Delete''' per above. – [[User:PeeJay2K3|Pee]][[User talk:PeeJay2K3|Jay]] 11:43, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
*As per above reason '''Delete''' ([[User:Mr.Mani Raj Paul|Mr.Mani Raj Paul]] ([[User talk:Mr.Mani Raj Paul|talk]]) 14:19, 10 April 2019 (UTC))
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