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==== Category:Face games ====
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:''The result of the discussion was:'' <!-- Template:Cfd top --> '''rename'''. [[User:MER-C|MER-C]] 15:16, 12 August 2019 (UTC)
:* '''Propose renaming''' [[:Category:Face games]] to [[:Category:Face (company) games]]
:'''Nominator's rationale:''' Per proper naming conventions in Wikipedia if the company had an article. <sub><small>[[User:Zxcvbnm|ZXCVBNM]] ([[User Talk:Zxcvbnm|TALK]])</small></sub> 17:06, 4 August 2019 (UTC)
:{{re|Zxcvbnm}}Well, the proposed renaming ain't bad so, go ahead... [[User:KGRAMR|Roberth Martinez]] ([[User talk:KGRAMR|talk]]) 18:19, 4 August 2019 (UTC)
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==== Category:American inspired aircrafts ====
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:''The result of the discussion was:'' <!-- Template:Cfd top --> '''delete'''. [[User:CambridgeBayWeather|CambridgeBayWeather]], [[User talk:CambridgeBayWeather|Uqaqtuq (talk)]], [[Special:Contributions/CambridgeBayWeather|Sunasuttuq]] 04:09, 24 September 2019 (UTC)
:* '''Propose renaming''' [[:Category:American inspired aircrafts]] to [[:Category:American inspired aircraft]]
:* '''Propose renaming''' [[:Category:Soviet inspired aircrafts]] to [[:Category:Soviet inspired aircraft]]
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:* Hi Nigel Ish, all the aircraft that I have added have been reviewed one by one meticulously with information from Wikipedia. My original idea was to include more aircraft from all countries, including those created entirely by China and imitated in other countries because of his design. This was interrupted when user Petebutt noticed that I had written the categories wrong. For military history and enthusiasts it is important because it explains the mythical aircraft on which the industry has been based to develop its models around the world. Not judging who makes more or better aircraft.--[[User:NronQsr|NronQsr]] ([[User talk:NronQsr|talk]]) 05:20, 6 August 2019 (UTC)
* '''Delete''', not a ''defining'' characteristic (see [[WP:DEFINING]]). A potentially better idea is to write an article about imitation in the aircraft industry, including a list of examples. [[User:Marcocapelle|Marcocapelle]] ([[User talk:Marcocapelle|talk]]) 06:20, 6 August 2019 (UTC)
* '''Delete''' Fully agree with Marco, it's not defining but an article may be appropriate. --[[User:Trialpears|Trialpears]] ([[User talk:Trialpears|talk]]) 20:09, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' per Nigel Ish. These categories as is are [[WP:OR]], which has no place on Wikipedia. [[User:Newshunter12|Newshunter12]] ([[User talk:Newshunter12|talk]]) 00:14, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
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==== Category:Australian first-class cricketers of South African origin ====
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:''The result of the discussion was:'' <!-- Template:Cfd top --> '''merge''' to parents. [[User:MER-C|MER-C]] 15:21, 12 August 2019 (UTC)
:* '''Propose deleting''' {{lc|Australian first-class cricketers of South African origin}}<br />
:'''Nominator's rationale:''' For the same reason an [[Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2018_December_14#Category:New_Zealand_first-class_cricketers_of_South_African_origin|almost indentical category]] was deleted at the end of last year. '''[[User:Lugnuts|<
*'''Comment''' what we deleted was a NZ category. "First class" is redundant, because any others will be NN anyway. The category is in practice about South African expratriate cricketers in Autralia. At worst it should be upmerged, rather than deleted, but I suspect there may be scope for populating it better and getting it up to the normal minimum of 5. [[User:Peterkingiron|Peterkingiron]] ([[User talk:Peterkingiron|talk]]) 16:43, 30 July 2019 (UTC)
**'''Comment''' it is conceivable that a played would play either T20I or ODI matches without playing first-class cricket, but that would be more likely for minor cricketing nations. It does seem like an unnecessary addition to the category name, however. [[User:Grutness|Grutness]]...''<small>[[User_talk:Grutness|<span style="color: #008822;">wha?</span>]]</small>'' 05:04, 6 August 2019 (UTC)
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* '''Upmerge''', trivial intersection by descent and occupation, and by the way we do not even have [[:Category:Australian first-class cricketers]]. [[User:Marcocapelle|Marcocapelle]] ([[User talk:Marcocapelle|talk]]) 09:47, 4 August 2019 (UTC)
*Can someone please explain or expand the acronyms? [[User:Rathfelder|Rathfelder]] ([[User talk:Rathfelder|talk]]) 21:20, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
**{{ping|Rathfelder}} for future reference NZ = New Zealand, T20I = [[Twenty20 International]], ODI = [[One Day International]]. [[User:MER-C|MER-C]] 15:21, 12 August 2019 (UTC)
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==== Category:Clippers ====
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:''The result of the discussion was:'' <!-- Template:Cfd top --> '''do not rename'''. [[User:MER-C|MER-C]] 09:46, 25 August 2019 (UTC)
:* '''Propose renaming''' [[:Category:Clippers]] to [[:Category:Clippers (ships)]]
:'''Nominator's rationale:''' [[Talk:Clipper (disambiguation)#Requested move 26 June 2019]] was closed as no consensus to disambiguate the ship at [[Clippers]] (singular), while [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2019 July 5#Clippers]] was closed as retarget "Clippers" to [[Clipper (disambiguation)]] which previously targeted [[Los Angeles Clippers]]. While the singular "Clipper" is certainly ambiguous, the plural "Clippers" is more so given that the tools for cutting things are more commonly known in the plural form. [[:Category:Friends]] was converted into a DAB page as a result of [[Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2019 April 2#Category:Friends]] despite the article being at [[Friends]] because again plural are used in the category namespace and there is more risk of confusion. In addition [[:Category:Plymouth]] and [[:Category:Perth]] are DAB pages even though [[Plymouth]] and [[Perth]] aren't. [[:Category:Clippers]] should become a DAB to and can also include [[:Category:San Diego Clippers]], [[:Category:Los Angeles Clippers]], [[:Category:Columbus Clippers]], [[:Category:Baltimore Clippers]], [[:Category:Agua Caliente Clippers]], [[:Category:Oakland Clippers]] and [[:Category:Concordia Clippers]]. Some editors at the RM suggested using "Clipper ship", thus [[:Category:Clippers ships]] might be a possibility. '''[[User:Crouch, Swale|<span style="color:Green">Crouch, Swale</span>]]''' ([[User talk:Crouch, Swale|<span style="color:Blue">talk</span>]]) 13:34, 26 July 2019 (UTC)
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*'''Oppose'''. No need; one looking for another usage will be referred there; those looking for the nautical usage (which itself is the parent of some others) will already be where they wanted to be. [[User:Kablammo|Kablammo]] ([[User talk:Kablammo|talk]]) 17:20, 4 August 2019 (UTC)
*:Why? as noted the name "Clippers" is highly ambiguous and there was even resistance to point {{No redirect|Clippers}} in the article space away from the NBA team. '''[[User:Crouch, Swale|<span style="color:Green">Crouch, Swale</span>]]''' ([[User talk:Crouch, Swale|<span style="color:Blue">talk</span>]]) 07:57, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
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==== Category:Alkenones ====
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:''The result of the discussion was:'' <!-- Template:Cfd top --> '''merge'''. [[User:MER-C|MER-C]] 09:14, 23 August 2019 (UTC)
:* '''Propose merging''' [[:Category:Alkenones]] to [[:Category:Enones]]
:'''Nominator's rationale:''' Besides [[Alkenones]], all of the pages in [[:Category:Alkenones]] belong in [[:Category:Enones]] but not [[:Category:Alkenones]]. The six other pages each describe a chemical that has an oxygen-carbon double bond that's conjugated to a carbon-carbon double bond and is therefore an enone. Meanwhile, per the lead of [[Alkenone]], the term alkenone only applies to a ketone that: has a methyl or ethyl group on one side and a linear hydrocarbon group on the other, which rules out all other members except [[Methyl vinyl ketone]] and [[3-Penten-2-one]]; is formed by a member of the class Prymnesiophyceae, which I don't think applies to the other pages since [[Alkenone]] is the only page in the category that mentions phytoplankton; and has between 35 and 41 carbon atoms, which rules out all members of the category except [[Alkenone]] in and of itself. [[User talk:The_Nth_User|Care to differ or discuss with me?]] [[User:The_Nth_User|The N<sup>th</sup> User]] 02:21, 26 July 2019 (UTC)
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* '''Merge'''. There isn't a need to make a distinction between alkenones and enones. -- [[User:Edgar181|Ed]] ([[User talk:Edgar181|Edgar181]]) 12:05, 15 August 2019 (UTC)
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====Category:Politicians by religion====
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:''The result of the discussion was:'' <!-- Template:Cfd top --> '''delete'''. [[User:MER-C|MER-C]] 15:22, 12 August 2019 (UTC)
:* '''Propose deleting''' [[:Category:Politicians by religion]]
:** '''Propose deleting''' [[:Category:Christian politicians]]
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* '''Delete''' per nom. -[[User:Nizil Shah|Nizil]] ([[User talk:Nizil Shah|talk]]) 06:33, 7 August 2019 (UTC)
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==== Category:Institutes of the Roman Curia ====
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:''The result of the discussion was:'' <!-- Template:Cfd top --> '''merge'''. Renaming of the target should be considered in a new nomination. [[User:MER-C|MER-C]] 09:15, 19 October 2019 (UTC)
:* '''Propose merging''' [[:Category:Institutes of the Roman Curia]] to <s>[[:Category:Offices of the Roman Curia]]</s> [[:Category:Dicasteries]] ''meanwhile the target has been renamed''
:'''Nominator's rationale:''' '''merge or reverse merge''', it is not clear how the scope of these two categories is different. Note if the [[Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2019_July_23#Category:Offices_of_the_Roman_Curia|related discussion of yesterday]] is closed as merge, then this proposal is turning into merging with [[:Category:Roman Curia]]. [[User:Marcocapelle|Marcocapelle]] ([[User talk:Marcocapelle|talk]]) 04:21, 24 July 2019 (UTC)
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*'''Merge''' per the nom. Upon evaluation, as far as I can tell, these two categories have the same general scope. I am no expert on the Roman Catholic Church, but these categories appear the same. [[User:Newshunter12|Newshunter12]] ([[User talk:Newshunter12|talk]]) 00:21, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
*'''Merge''' under either [[:Category:Dicasteries and institutes of the Roman Curia]] or [[:Category:Organizations of the Roman Curia]], with slight preference for [[:Category:Dicasteries and institutes of the Roman Curia]] since those are the terms actually used for these institutions. --[[User:Trialpears|Trialpears]] ([[User talk:Trialpears|talk]]) 09:59, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' There seems to be a consensus in favor of a merger, but the preferred name is uncertain, I believe a close to either name would be in order with a further nomination to move it if necessary. I've therefore filed an [[WP:ANRFC]] since keeping it open for longer won't do any good. --[[User:Trialpears|Trialpears]] ([[User talk:Trialpears|talk]]) 11:27, 18 October 2019 (UTC)
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==== Category:Cow and Chicken ====
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:''The result of the discussion was:'' <!-- Template:Cfd top --> '''delete'''. [[User:MER-C|MER-C]] 09:48, 25 August 2019 (UTC)
:* '''Propose deleting''' {{lc|Cow and Chicken}}<br />
:'''Nominator's rationale:''' Only five articles fall in this category. Of them, one is the main series article, one is the episode list, one is the creator, and the other two are about a related spin-off. This category does not need to exist. The editor who created this category has a questionable edit history. [[User:Paper Luigi|<span style="color:green">'''''Paper Luigi'''''</span>]] <sup>''[[User Talk:Paper Luigi|T]] • [[Special:Contributions/Paper Luigi|C]]''</sup> 00:16, 24 July 2019 (UTC)
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*'''Question''' {{ping|Trivialist}} Why did you remove ''[[I Am Weasel]]'' from the category? Do you think the IP's removal of the show's creator and the list of episodes was justified, and why or why not? –[[User:LaundryPizza03|<b style="color:#77b">Laundry</b><b style="color:#fb0">Pizza</b><b style="color:#b00">03</b>]] ([[User talk:LaundryPizza03|<span style="color:#0d0">d</span>]][[Special:Contribs/LaundryPizza03|<span style="color:#0bf">c̄</span>]]) 21:22, 4 August 2019 (UTC)
:: My mistake, I forgot that it was a segment on ''Cow & Chicken''. As for the creator's article, that shouldn't be in the category, since people aren't usually categorized under their works. [[User:Trivialist|Trivialist]] ([[User talk:Trivialist|talk]]) 22:12, 4 August 2019 (UTC)
:::I know I can't vote on this, but I completely disagree that ''I Am Weasel'' can get into a category about its sister series, it has been separated from that show since 1999. In my opinion, this category is useless for having too few articles which would fall under it and should be deleted. It would be the same as to create a separate category for ''I Am Weasel'', would be just another useless one. [[Special:Contributions/170.244.28.169|170.244.28.169]] ([[User talk:170.244.28.169|talk]]) 05:20, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
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==== Kings of Prussia ====
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==== Kings of Sardinia ====
[[File:Symbol move vote.svg|16px|link=|alt=]] '''Relisted''', see [[Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2019 August 17%23Kings of Sardinia]]<!-- Template:Cfd relisted -->
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