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==Proposals, November 2012==

Please check how many articles qualify for a stub type before proposing it.

If (after approval) you create a stub type, please be sure to add it to the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject_Stub_sorting/Stub_types|list of stub types]]. This page will be archived in its entirety once all discussions have been closed; there is no need to move them to another page.

=== NEW PROPOSALS ===

==Proposals, November 2012==

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===2010s Hindi-language film stubs===

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I propose that the {{tl|2010s-Hindi-film-stub}} sort the films into [[:Category:2010s Hindi-language film stubs]] instead of directly into [[:Category:Hindi-language film stubs]]. See the latter category for similar stub types for other decades. --[[User:Odie5533|Odie5533]] ([[User talk:Odie5533|talk]]) 09:05, 25 November 2012 (UTC)

:I won't support this until the template has at least 60 transclusions. It currently has four so should remained upmerged. [[User:Severo|Severo]]^{''[[User talk:Severo|T]][[Special:Contributions/Severo|C]]''} 20:59, 25 November 2012 (UTC)

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:::In future it would be wise to wait until 60 has been passed, or in the proposal note that you are sorting them and request conditional on 60 being passed. Now we have more than 60, it's fine. [[User:Severo|Severo]]^{''[[User talk:Severo|T]][[Special:Contributions/Severo|C]]''} 07:07, 26 November 2012 (UTC)

:There are 118 now, so '''support''', but note that some of those tagged are not what I would call a stub: by [[WP:STUB]] a stub has only a few sentences, or a couple of paragraphs, of prose text. --[[User:Qetuth|Qetuth]] ([[User talk:Qetuth|talk]]) 04:54, 26 November 2012 (UTC)

:'''Support'''. --[[User:Ser Amantio di Nicolao|<span style="font-family:Old English Text MT;">Ser Amantio di Nicolao</span>]]^{[[User_talk:Ser Amantio di Nicolao|''Che dicono a Signa?'']]}_{[[Special:Contributions/Ser Amantio di Nicolao|'''Lo dicono a Signa.''']]} 19:19, 1 December 2012 (UTC)

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===Category Prehistoric Chondrostei stubs===

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Hi fellows. Days ago I proposed the creation of the [[:category:Chondrostei stubs]], which now exists. Looking further into it, some things happen: 1) there are several extinct species included ([http://toolserver.org/~daniel/WikiSense/CategoryIntersect.php?wikilang=en&wikifam=.wikipedia.org&basecat=fish+stubs&basedeep=5&mode=ts&templates=Palaeonisciformes-stub&go=Scan&format=html&userlang=en Template Palaeonisciformes]: 88 stubs; [http://toolserver.org/~daniel/WikiSense/CategoryIntersect.php?wikilang=en&wikifam=.wikipedia.org&basecat=fish+stubs&basedeep=5&mode=ts&templates=Perleidiformes-stub&go=Scan&format=html&userlang=en Template Perleidiformes]: 24 stubs); 2) I am curating stubs from the overcrowded [[:category:Prehistoric bony fish stubs]] and more extinct Chondrostei will be joining the category. What about creating a '''[[:category:Prehistoric Chondrostei stubs]]'''? Regards, --[[User:Fadesga|Fabio Descalzi, aka Fadesga]] ([[User talk:Fadesga|talk]]) 15:00, 19 November 2012 (UTC)

:I don't know about this one: generally the stub cats should follow the main cats patterns where they can. There doesn't seem to be a {{cl|Prehistoric Chondrostei}}, although I do notice that 6 of the 8 orders under Chondrostei are extinct. Also, the entire {{cl|Chondrostei}} tree has less than 200 articles, it hardly seems worth splitting if that is it. (note: can't get toolserver to work right now) --[[User:Qetuth|Qetuth]] ([[User talk:Qetuth|talk]]) 04:21, 21 November 2012 (UTC)

::True, there is not (yet) any [[:category:Prehistoric Chondrostei]]; all "prehistoric Chondrostei" articles are placed under the portmanteau [[:category:Prehistoric bony fish]], as a parallel categorization to the [[:category:Chondrostei]]. A [[:category:Prehistoric Chondrostei]] can be created as well (and it would include at least 112 articles, see [http://toolserver.org/~daniel/WikiSense/CategoryIntersect.php?wikilang=en&wikifam=.wikipedia.org&basecat=Chondrostei&basedeep=3&mode=cs&tagcat=Prehistoric+bony+fish&tagdeep=2&go=Scan&format=html&userlang=en this search result]). Regards, --[[User:Fadesga|Fabio Descalzi, aka Fadesga]] ([[User talk:Fadesga|talk]]) 11:58, 21 November 2012 (UTC)

:::'''[[:category:Prehistoric Chondrostei]]''' created - maybe time to create a '''[[:category:Prehistoric Chondrostei stubs]]''' now...? --[[User:Fadesga|Fabio Descalzi, aka Fadesga]] ([[User talk:Fadesga|talk]]) 02:16, 28 November 2012 (UTC)

::::By catscan, there are 130 templates tagged with one of the 4 templates that would go into this category, leaving only 31 in the one of the parents. I'm not exactly opposed, but I'm not sure whether it's the best option - What is your opinion on instead making [[:Category:Palaeonisciformes stubs]] with 88 of the 161? And still bringing the P.r-ff stubs cat down under 500. Are there more Chondrostei to come? --[[User:Qetuth|Qetuth]] ([[User talk:Qetuth|talk]]) 04:47, 28 November 2012 (UTC)

:::::Qetuth is making an interesting proposal. Yes, we'd better first create the '''[[:Category:Palaeonisciformes stubs]]''' and then let the creation of the [[:category:Prehistoric Chondrostei stubs]] wait until there are enough non-prehistoric Chondrostei stubs to justify the existence of both Chondrostei-related stub categories. --[[User:Fadesga|Fabio Descalzi, aka Fadesga]] ([[User talk:Fadesga|talk]]) 17:21, 28 November 2012 (UTC)

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=== Template:Norway-journalist-stub ===

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I tried to stub-sort a Norwegian journalist, but that wasn't as easy as I'm used to. A scan of Norwegian people stubs and Journalist stubs, showed me that there are 22 articles that could fit such a template and there is probably more if I dig deeper. I am proposing a speedy creation (S2) of [[Template:Norway-journalist-stub]] as an upmerged template, just like [[Template:Spain-journalist-stub]] and [[Template:Sweden-journalist-stub]], where the articles is members of [[:Category:Norwegian writer stubs]] and [[:Category:European journalist stubs]]. [[User:Mentoz86|Mentoz86]] ([[User talk:Mentoz86|talk]]) 14:26, 19 November 2012 (UTC)

:'''Support''' - take a look at [http://toolserver.org/~daniel/WikiSense/CategoryIntersect.php?wikilang=en&wikifam=.wikipedia.org&basecat=Norwegian+journalists&basedeep=1&mode=ts&templates=Asbox&go=Scan&format=html&userlang=en this quick scan]: more than 150 stub articles. Definitely needs a separate [[:Category:Norwegian journalist stubs]] as well. --[[User:Fadesga|Fabio Descalzi, aka Fadesga]] ([[User talk:Fadesga|talk]]) 14:54, 19 November 2012 (UTC)

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These are all speediable once the tag has been applied (I notice that only 3/72 Swedish journalists stubs have {{tl|Sweden-journalist-stub}}). {{tl|India-journalist-stub}} / {{cl|Indian journalist stubs}} is also viable - [http://toolserver.org/~daniel/WikiSense/CategoryIntersect.php?wikilang=en&wikifam=.wikipedia.org&basecat=Indian+journalists&basedeep=5&mode=ts&templates=Asbox&go=Scan&format=html&userlang=en scan] --[[User:Qetuth|Qetuth]] ([[User talk:Qetuth|talk]]) 01:22, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

:'''Support''' all. --[[User:Ser Amantio di Nicolao|<span style="font-family:Old English Text MT;">Ser Amantio di Nicolao</span>]]^{[[User_talk:Ser Amantio di Nicolao|''Che dicono a Signa?'']]}_{[[Special:Contributions/Ser Amantio di Nicolao|'''Lo dicono a Signa.''']]} 19:20, 1 December 2012 (UTC)

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===Prehistoric Perciformes stubs===

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===Genera split under {{cl|Carabidae stubs}}===

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Propose adding the following templates and categories:

* To be placed under {{cl|Platyninae stubs}}

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:[[Synuchus]] is listed in both [[Platyninae]] and [[Harpalinae]] lists: The article has the former as parent cat but the latter in its infobox. Otherwise, '''support''', and either parent {{cl|Synuchus stubs}} with both until it is sorted out, or leave under common parent {{cl|Carabidae stubs}}. --[[User:Qetuth|Qetuth]] ([[User talk:Qetuth|talk]]) 04:11, 17 November 2012 (UTC)

:'''Support''' all. --[[User:Ser Amantio di Nicolao|<span style="font-family:Old English Text MT;">Ser Amantio di Nicolao</span>]]^{[[User_talk:Ser Amantio di Nicolao|''Che dicono a Signa?'']]}_{[[Special:Contributions/Ser Amantio di Nicolao|'''Lo dicono a Signa.''']]} 19:21, 1 December 2012 (UTC)

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==={{cl|Tadla-Azilal geography stubs}}===

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=== Split of {{cl|Diptera stubs}} ===

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{{cl|Diptera stubs}} is now oversized. Requesting exploratory templates with potential categories. The page counts shown here are the number of pages in the perm category, not necessarily the number that classify as stubs:

* {{tl|calliphoridae-stub}} (53 P)

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Will wait to create categories until article count > 60. [[User:Dawynn|Dawynn]] ([[User talk:Dawynn|talk]]) 16:24, 14 November 2012 (UTC)

:'''Support''' --[[User:Qetuth|Qetuth]] ([[User talk:Qetuth|talk]]) 03:58, 17 November 2012 (UTC)

:'''Support''' all. --[[User:Ser Amantio di Nicolao|<span style="font-family:Old English Text MT;">Ser Amantio di Nicolao</span>]]^{[[User_talk:Ser Amantio di Nicolao|''Che dicono a Signa?'']]}_{[[Special:Contributions/Ser Amantio di Nicolao|'''Lo dicono a Signa.''']]} 19:18, 1 December 2012 (UTC)

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=== Indian Assembly Constituencies / Indian Elections ===

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I'm not sure exactly how many of the above should be instituted, but I have noticed a large number of stubs for Indian State Assembly Constituencies. I would have expected there to be a stub tree like this: Asian election stubs > Indian election stubs > Indian electoral districts / Indian assembly constituencies. Seems like only the "Asian election stubs" category currently exists. I would propose at the very least creating India politics or Indian Elections. But there are probably at least 500-1000 stubs just related to Indian constituencies / electoral districts (someone from [[Wikipedia:WikiProject_India|WikiProject India]] might want to weigh in on the appropriate category name - I'm not familiar enough with the terminology, but as far as I can tell an Assembly constituency is a type of electoral district). Currently those that are stub tagged are tagged with a mixture of Indian government stub or local district geography stub. Here are a handful of articles which could be marked with these categories:

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::I've never done this before - will someone from the Stub Sorting project make one of these stub templates, or is it supposed to be me who makes it? I'm not sure I know how to do that, but I can probably figure it out. The bot idea sounds good to me, Severo. --[[User:0x0077BE|0x0077BE]] ([[User talk:0x0077BE|talk]]) 17:57, 15 November 2012 (UTC)

:::I can sort it (although anyone *can* do it) but it won't be for a week or so I'd guess when I find the time. To make a stub, we use {{tl|asbox}} and {{tl|Stub category}} to make the category :) [[User:Severo|Severo]]^{''[[User talk:Severo|T]][[Special:Contributions/Severo|C]]''} 21:40, 17 November 2012 (UTC)

:'''Support''' all. And I can help with the sorting, once this weekend is past - just tell me what needs doing. --[[User:Ser Amantio di Nicolao|<span style="font-family:Old English Text MT;">Ser Amantio di Nicolao</span>]]^{[[User_talk:Ser Amantio di Nicolao|''Che dicono a Signa?'']]}_{[[Special:Contributions/Ser Amantio di Nicolao|'''Lo dicono a Signa.''']]} 19:17, 1 December 2012 (UTC)

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=== [[:Category:New Zealand educator stubs]] ===

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I propose creating {{cl|New Zealand educator stubs}}/{{tl|NewZealand-edu-bio-stub}} (based on {{cl|Educator stubs}}/{{tl|edu-bio-stub}}) - a [http://toolserver.org/~magnus/catscan_rewrite.php?depth=10&categories=New+Zealand+educators&negcats=New+Zealand+academics&templates_yes=asbox&sortby=title&doit=1 scan] finds 252 stubs for this category; as the parent category {{cl|New Zealand people stubs}}, which I believe currently hosts most of these, is still over 1000 stubs (as of when I wrote this proposal - I'm still trying to sort it into other possible sub categories), I think we should go for this. [[User:Od Mishehu|עוד&nbsp;מישהו]] [[User talk:Od Mishehu|Od&nbsp;Mishehu]] 10:05, 6 November 2012 (UTC)

:'''Support''' - this one is a good idea, and there are probably some other countries that could use such a tag also. I suspect a lot of educator stubs aren't tagged as such, but don't have time to investigate right now. --[[User:Qetuth|Qetuth]] ([[User talk:Qetuth|talk]]) 12:46, 7 November 2012 (UTC)

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:::* {{tl|Germany-edu-bio-stub}} and {{cl|German educator stubs}} if 60 found (64 on search)

:::I think having looked through some of the search results that there will be quite a few where the 'educator' cat is a fairly minor part of why the person is notable so might not need these tags. There are so many New Zealand ones because of the way the importing from [[Dictionary of New Zealand Biography]] was done. --[[User:Qetuth|Qetuth]] ([[User talk:Qetuth|talk]]) 03:57, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

:'''Support''' all. --[[User:Ser Amantio di Nicolao|<span style="font-family:Old English Text MT;">Ser Amantio di Nicolao</span>]]^{[[User_talk:Ser Amantio di Nicolao|''Che dicono a Signa?'']]}_{[[Special:Contributions/Ser Amantio di Nicolao|'''Lo dicono a Signa.''']]} 19:16, 1 December 2012 (UTC)

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=== [[:Category:New Zealand singer stubs]] ===

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::{{tl|CountryName-radio-show-stub}}, {{tl|CountryName-radio-bio-stub}} and {{tl|CountryName-journalist-stub}} could be added. What about Journals? Would they count? --[[User:Qetuth|Qetuth]] ([[User talk:Qetuth|talk]]) 04:52, 4 November 2012 (UTC)

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