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The result was '''keep'''. <small>([[Wikipedia:NACD#Non-administrators_closing_discussions|non-admin closure]])</small> [[User:DavidLeighEllis|DavidLeighEllis]] ([[User talk:DavidLeighEllis|talk]]) 19:02, 25 October 2015 (UTC)
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*:::::Ok, that's a fair point. What we need is [[WP:SIGCOV|significant coverage]] in multiple third-party sources. Aren't their any Amiga mags or books that cover file systems? [[User:Qwertyus|Q<small>VVERTYVS</small>]] <small>([[User talk:Qwertyus|hm?]])</small> 17:25, 2 October 2015 (UTC)
:<small class="delsort-notice">Note: This debate has been included in the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Computing|list of Computing-related deletion discussions]]. <span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">[[User:Northamerica1000|North America]]<sup>[[User talk:Northamerica1000|<
:<small class="delsort-notice">Note: This debate has been included in the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Software|list of Software-related deletion discussions]]. <span class="smallcaps" style="font-variant:small-caps;">[[User:Northamerica1000|North America]]<sup>[[User talk:Northamerica1000|<
*'''Keep'''. Many of the file systems listed in [[Comparison of file systems]] have few independent published sources available. File systems developed in academia or for major commercial computers get written about publicly. Other file systems produced by companies are documented internally. They aren't usually written about in consumer magazines.
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* '''Keep''' As a general guidelines, I would agree that notability isn't inherited from a parent entity. But part of an enterprise like Wikipedia is a certain level of completeness. If I can find out every release date of Amiga and a changelog on that page, but not get any detail about a file system that ran on it, something is wrong. I would agree to a proposal to cut back some of the needlessly gory detail on the Amiga page and merge things like this article in, but the content on this page is worth keeping around and is in keeping with the other topics in this area.--[[Special:Contributions/69.204.153.39|69.204.153.39]] ([[User talk:69.204.153.39|talk]]) 20:53, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
*: While my vote is also to keep, I disagree that it would be practical to merge this with [[Amiga]], as if we put every relevant filesystem there, that article would become quite a mess. Independent article is right in my opinion. [[User:LjL|LjL]] ([[User talk:LjL|talk]]) 12:30, 7 October 2015 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' - Doesn't pass notability criteria, and searches turned up nothing to suggest it does. Arguments to keep above, while passionate and well-thought out, are not policy based. [[User:onel5969|<b><
<div class="xfd_relist" style="border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 25px;"><span style="color: #FF6600;">'''{{resize|91%|[[Wikipedia:Deletion process#Relisting discussions|Relisted]] to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.}}'''</span><br />'''Relisting comment:''' The requirement for policy-based arguments merely represents the greater community consensus. A local consensus that is not rooted in community consensus cannot be interpreted as a valid consensus. So, while a clear majority are in favor of keeping, I don't see policy-based arguments in response to the policy-based arguments in favor of deletion. Those in favor of keeping need to make a better argument or their comments may be discarded. [[User:Swarm|<span style='color:black;text-shadow: 0.0em 0.0em 0.9em black'><big>'''S'''</big><small>'''''warm'''''</small></span>]] [[User talk:Swarm|<span style='color:black;text-shadow: 0.1em 0.1em 0.2em red'><big>♠</big></span>]] 06:48, 10 October 2015 (UTC)<br />
<small>Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, [[User:Swarm|<span style='color:black;text-shadow: 0.0em 0.0em 0.9em black'><big>'''S'''</big><small>'''''warm'''''</small></span>]] [[User talk:Swarm|<span style='color:black;text-shadow: 0.1em 0.1em 0.2em red'><big>♠</big></span>]] 06:48, 10 October 2015 (UTC)</small><!-- from Template:Relist -->
:I'd say that since "a clear majority is in favor of keeping", and the current state of thing is that the article exists, there is '''no consensus to delete'''. Given that, I think at this point you're twisting process, and it's interesting that other filesystem-related articles that were AfD'd were hastily deleted (even though they were receiving sources and improvements), this one is being hastily... relisted. --[[User:LjL|LjL]] ([[User talk:LjL|talk]]) 11:37, 10 October 2015 (UTC)
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*'''Keep''': Four independent published sources are cited in the article, but with limited coverage; substantial coverage exists in primary sources. This article does not strictly satisfy [[WP:GNG]], but I think it's fair to relax GNG requirements somewhat, as some of the reasons in [[WP:WHYN]] do not apply — SFS is now mostly a fact of history, there is no risk of it being an advertisement or a hoax. Due to [[WP:Recentism]], it's naturally more difficult to locate sources for this subject, but they probably exist in archives somewhere (e.g. old magazines). As evidenced by the amount of discussion and edits since the AfD begun, there are interested editors around to keep the article maintained. -- [[user:intgr|intgr]] <small>[[user talk:intgr|[talk]]]</small> 13:54, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
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*'''Comment''': is this going to be relisted ''ad libitum'' until the somewhat overwhelming "keep"s somehow start turning into overwhelming "delete"s? [[User:LjL|LjL]] ([[User talk:LjL|talk]]) 22:33, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
*'''Keep'''. This was a very difficult decision, but I think, after examining the new sources added to the article, that it does satisfy [[WP:GNG]] and [[WP:NSOFTWARE]]. (There are a couple of linked manuals exclusively about the file system.) Therefore, I am changing my opinion to "keep". --[[User:Biblioworm|<span style="color:#6F4E37;">'''''Biblio'''''</span>]][[User_talk:Biblioworm|<span style="color:#6F4E37">'''''worm'''''</span>]] 02:45, 22 October 2015 (UTC)
*'''Keep''' Agree with Biblioworm, the manuals show SFS passes [[WP:NSOFTWARE]]. [[User:AlbinoFerret|<span style="color:white; background-color:#534545; font-weight: bold; font-size: 90%;">AlbinoFerret</span>]] 18:04, 25 October 2015 (UTC)
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