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The result of the debate was '''annoyed'''. When you say to merge to an article, will you please make sure the article exists?! This is articles for deletion, not "articles I think the closing admin should make but I don't care about nearly enough to make the article myself and then recommend a merge there afterwards". So I'm not going to make the article. Reading the debate and observing the near-total lack of support for outright retention, I'm going to delete 4DL and leave Beatnik and HQ9+ alone. In future, people should make better recommendations in the AfD edits. -[[User:Splash|Splash]]<small>^{[[User talk:Splash|talk]]}</small> 19:30, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

=== [[4DL programming language]], [[Beatnik programming language]], [[HQ9+]] ===

Three [[esoteric programming language]]s created by Cliff L. Biffle. Could not find any evidence that they are notable. Cliff L. Biffle seems to be a player in the esoteric programming language world, but not as notable as [[Wouter van Oortmerssen]] or even [[David Morgan-Mar]].

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* [http://www.google.nl/search?q=%22Beatnik+programming+language%22+-wikipedia+-encyclopedia+-directory&start=0&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official "Beatnik programming language" -wikipedia -encyclopedia -directory] - 75 hits. ([[l33t programming language]] is based on this, but I wil nomitate it for deletion as well.)

* [http://www.google.nl/search?q=%22HQ9%2B%22&start=0&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official "HQ9+"] - Note that most hits are garbage. ([[David Morgan-Mar]]'s HQ++ is based on this.)

:*This may be a browser issue, but that link brings up a searh for "HQ9 ". A manual search brings up mostly relevant results. (I'm not sure how to form the link right either.) [[User:Quamaretto|Quamaretto]] 21:20, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

I'd say either delete all or merge all into [[Cliff L. Biffle]]. —''[[User:R.Koot|Ruud]]'' 21:06, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

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* '''Delete''' 4DL, which seems to be nothing but a [[Befunge]] variant; '''keep''' the other two. HQ9+ is known to many esoteric programming fans, as a joke language poking fun at the banality of the programs produced in most esoteric languages. I've also heard of Beatnik before, in the context of a practice puzzle for the [[MIT Mystery Hunt]]. [http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=beatnik+%22esoteric+programming%22+-wikipedia+-encyclopedia+-directory&btnG=Google+Search beatnik "esoteric programming" -wikipedia -encyclopedia -directory] gives 346 hits. In a small field like esoteric programming languages, that's huge. [[User:Rspeer|'''<span style="color: #63f;">r</span><span style="color: #555;">speer</span>''']] / [[User talk:Rspeer|<span style="color: #555;">ɹəəds</span><span style="color: #63f;">ɹ </span>]] 21:36, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

** Note that languages like Intercal, Brainfuck and Befudge get 100 000 to 200 000 hits on Google. —''[[User:R.Koot|Ruud]]'' 21:44, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

*'''Keep allbeatnik and hq9+, merge 4dl''', per rspeer --[[User:Snargle|Snargle]] 21:54, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

*'''Delete''' -- [[User:Chris 73|Chris 73]] | [[User talk:Chris 73|Talk]] 00:15, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

*'''Delete''' 4DL and HQ9+. 4DL doesn't seem notable and is just a stub, HQ9+ is full of external (probably vanity) links. No opinion about Beatnik, as that seems to be at least decently-written article (though its notability is dubious). --[[User:Donhalcon|bmills]] 03:17, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

*'''Keep''' HQ9+, or merge and redirect to [[Cliff L. Biffle]] - I'm surprised about the number of Google results; AFAIK it is a popular piece of programmer humor, but I could be wrong. '''Delete''' or merge the other two. [[User:Quamaretto|Quamaretto]] 20:24, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

*'''Keep''' or redirect these, but do not delete. Notable enough to warrant an article each. [[User:Lar/Esperanza|<span style="color:green;">+</span>]]+[[User:Lar|Lar]]: [[User_talk:Lar|t]]/[[Special:Contributions/Lar|c]] 05:58, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

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