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The result of the debate was '''redirect''' (nothing to merge). --[[User:Thebainer|bainer]] ([[User_talk:Thebainer|talk]]) 03:24, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

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*'''Redirect''' per above. - [[User:MacGyverMagic|Mgm]]|[[User talk:MacGyverMagic|^(talk)]] 09:19, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

*'''Keep''' I think an article just about string manipulation is warranted as it is a varied and complex topic. An article that covers the basics of string manipulation as well as the type of tools that exists and specific issues that are applicable to various programming languages can be a resourceful addition. This is a notable enough topic to have its own article. I don't think it should be included in the existing article on strings because of article size limits and because there is precedence for this kind of sub-topic to have it's own article. Maybe a rename with (computers) is in order though. The only explanation given for a redirect is that another article about strings exist, none of the issues I have raised have been addressed. I'd like the other voters to describe their computer programming language experience before their vote is considered. The article that people want to redirect to doesn't cover string ''manipulation''. Perhaps we should also redirect [[regular expressions]] too then yes? Also the article in question is a stub and should have a stub tag. ([[User:Btipling|Bjorn Tipling]] 20:21, 9 December 2005 (UTC))

** I respectfully disagree. String manipulation falls into two broad categories. First you have the high-level approaches: these are already discussed in their own articles, and ''those'' are linked from the "String algorithms" section of [[String (computer science)]]. Second, you have the very low-level approaches. And those are very language-specific, or even implementation-specific. What middle ground can you identify that can actually support an entire article?<p>Even if there is an encyclopedic article to be written on the subject, this isn't it. Anyone who can write one is welcome to - and will remain welcome to, and trivially able to, even if it is redirected. So nothing is lost by redirecting, while nothing is gained by keeping. &mdash; [[User:Haeleth|Haeleth]]

::***Redirecting an article because it's not up to a standard of quality is not warranted. What is warranted is that the article be improved. Ironically, in your argument to redirect you have given an example of the complexity of string manipulation. Had the information you have just provided been in the article from the beginning I doubt it would have ever been nominated for deletion. Perhaps instead of voting to delete or redirect you should vote to keep and improve the article. ([[User:Btipling|Bjorn Tipling]] 20:55, 9 December 2005 (UTC))<small>[[User_talk:Haeleth|Talk]]</small> 20:47, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

** I have programming experience in [[Assembler]], [[BASIC]], [[C]], [[C plus plus|C++]], [[Haskell programming language|Haskell]], [[Java]] and [[PHP]]. I listed this article on AfD, because I did not believe it could be expanded beyond a dicdef. If it can be, I believe it should be in the [[string (computer science)]] article, <s>until</s> if the treatment of string manipulation becomes too large, it can be split at that time. &mdash;''[[User:R.Koot|R. Koot]]'' 20:53, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

Anyone who can write one is welcome to - and will remain welcome to, and trivially able to, even if it is redirected. So nothing is lost by redirecting, while nothing is gained by keeping. &mdash; [[User:Haeleth|Haeleth]] <small>[[User_talk:Haeleth|Talk]]</small> 20:47, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

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::It sounds as if some here would welcome this page if it had more information. That is why there is a stub tag. What this article needs is a stub tag, and not a redirect. Just so everyone knows, I am not the author of this article and only stumbled upon it while browsing the VFD page. ([[User:Btipling|Bjorn Tipling]] 20:57, 9 December 2005 (UTC))

*'''Redirect''' per [[User:Gazpacho|Gazpacho]]. &mdash; [[User:Haeleth|Haeleth]] <small>[[User_talk:Haeleth|Talk]]</small> 20:47, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

*'''Weak keep''' if updated. '''Stringology''' (which would be better name for the article) is quite established term and area of study: see stringology groups in [http://cs.felk.cvut.cz/psc/ Prague] or [http://www.cri.haifa.ac.il/index.html?http://www.cri.haifa.ac.il/stringology.htm Haifa] or [http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/vmakinen/stringology-k04/ Helsinky]. The article should cover basics of stringology and be named so (and no, I unfortunately don't have time to write it down). Redirect to [[String (computer science)]] would be misleading, the area is much bigger and more sophisticated than regex or what is described in [[String (computer science)]], better to delete the text if no one updates it and wait until relevant content gets created. [[User:Pavel Vozenilek|Pavel Vozenilek]] 21:26, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

* '''Redirect''' per Gazpacho [[User:Just zis Guy, you know?|Just zis <span style="border: 1px; border-style:solid">&nbsp;Guy,</span> you know?]] ^{[[User_talk:Just zis Guy, you know?|[T]]]}/_{[[Special:Contributions/Just zis Guy, you know?|[C]]]} ''[[User:Just zis Guy, you know?/AfD|AfD?]]'' 11:58, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

*'''Redirect''' per Gazpacho. Does not deserve its own article, I think. [[User:Stifle|Stifle]] 22:43, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

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