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The result was '''keep'''. The article's subject is found to be notable, based upon this discussion and the previous consensus found at the last [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cowboy coding|AFD]]. <small style="color:#999;white-space:nowrap;text-shadow:lightgrey 0.3em 0.3em 0.15em;">&mdash; [[User:Coffee|<big style="color:#ffa439">Coffee</big>]] // [[user talk:Coffee|<span style="color:#009900;">have a cup</span>]] // [[Special:Contributions/Coffee|<span style="color:#4682b4;">beans</span>]] // </small> 00:49, 9 February 2016 (UTC)

===[[Cowboy coding]]===

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Northeastern US residents sometimes use the term "Cowboy" derogatorily to mean reckless or irresponsible. Sticking the word "Cowboy" in front of the word "Coding" doesn't make it a software development philosophy. It is a [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia_is_not_a_dictionary#Neologisms|Neologism]] - it just means the same thing as "Cowboy-anything" but applied to code.

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The idea behind this article has some merit, in the sense that there can be an absence of development methodology in the same way that Anarchy is the absence of Government. But someone needs to articulate that much better than this article currently does. The article [[Software_development_process#Other|Software Development Process:Other]] has a section called "Code and Fix" that seems to roughly summarize this article. Maybe that section could be expanded? Also [[Capability_Maturity_Model|Capability Maturity Model]] Level 1 seems like the same idea. Actually, I think that's the closest match to the concept of development anarchy.

One person wrote that the term [[Rapid Application Development]] is sometimes used when companies don't want to admit that they have no formal development process. Maybe a section should be added there to say a little more about that. Maybe a list of maverick software developers should be made? <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:GlenPeterson|GlenPeterson]] ([[User talk:GlenPeterson|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/GlenPeterson|contribs]]) 16:09, 1 February 2016‎</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned -->

Here is the talk from the first attempt at deletion:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Cowboy_coding <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:GlenPeterson|GlenPeterson]] ([[User talk:GlenPeterson|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/GlenPeterson|contribs]]) 16:25, 1 February 2016‎</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned -->

* '''Keep''' The term is reliably sourced and meets [[:WP:GNG]]. [[User:Walter Görlitz|Walter Görlitz]] ([[User talk:Walter Görlitz|talk]]) 17:12, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

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::What makes you think that? Two entries from the c2.com wiki (see [http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?WikiIsNotWikipedia Wiki is not Wikipedia]) and Mick West's personal web site (which starts its definition with a link to this article in Wikipedia) do not constitute reliable sources in my estimation. The reference to Google's 20% Time does not use the words "Cowboy Coding". I don't have a copy of Software Project Management by Hughes/Cotterell to check that reference, so it's possible that 1 out of the 5 sources **could** be legitimate. With all the programming resources available online, that is the best the world could come up with in the 8 years this article has been around? Instead of making vague "the sources are out there" statements, it's time to see those sources if people want to save this article.[[User:GlenPeterson|GlenPeterson]] ([[User talk:GlenPeterson|talk]]) 18:57, 1 February 2016 (UTC)

::: You mean [[:Ward Cunningham]]'s blog is not a reliable source on software development terms? I added more sources from a software development website. I think the problem, based on your comments on your talk page and the article's talk page, is that it's an term used by American software developers. [[User:Walter Görlitz|Walter Görlitz]] ([[User talk:Walter Görlitz|talk]]) 06:07, 2 February 2016 (UTC)

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<small>Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, —[[User:UY Scuti|<span style="color:CornflowerBlue; font-family:Times;">'''UY Scuti'''</span>]] [[User talk:UY Scuti|<sup style="color:green; font-family:Times;">Talk</sup>]] 18:28, 8 February 2016 (UTC)</small><!-- from Template:Relist --></div><!-- Please add new comments below this line -->

*'''Keep''' The topic is notable, being covered in numerous sources. [[user:Andrew Davidson|Andrew D.]] ([[user talk:Andrew Davidson|talk]]) 23:56, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

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