Wikipedia:Pending changes/Request for Comment 2012/Discussion: Difference between revisions

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=== Usage boundaries between pending changes lv. 1 versus semi-protection still not addressed ===

I remember there being discussion as to when it would be best to use Pending Changes and when it would be best to use semi-protection. The boundary isn't clear, and if this isn't addressed there's going to be a messy piecemeal system where if the admin likes PC, PC will be used, and if they don't, semi will be used. Something specific is needed. [[User:Sven Manguard|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#207004;">'''<big>S</big>ven <big>M</big>anguard'''</fontspan>]] [[User talk:Sven Manguard|<small><fontspan colorstyle="color:#F0A804;">'''Wha?'''</fontspan></small>]] 14:01, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

: Okay, I don't know if I can hit every point necessary here, but maybe at least I can get the ball rolling. SP is preferable to PC1 (and FP to PC2) on frequently-edited articles (pick a number, 1 edit/hour? 1/edit 10 minutes)? because things just get messy when multiple editors are queued, cognitively and otherwise.

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=== Implementation: Do we tack this on to RFPP or create a new request system ===

I recommend the first option. [[User:Sven Manguard|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#207004;">'''<big>S</big>ven <big>M</big>anguard'''</fontspan>]] [[User talk:Sven Manguard|<small><fontspan colorstyle="color:#F0A804;">'''Wha?'''</fontspan></small>]] 14:01, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

:I'm staying out of the actual debating this time around, but I believe I can easily answer this and it gives an opportunity to clarify an important point. The way PC was used during and after the trial, it was just another tool in the article protection suite. No new systems or noticeboards are needed to begin using it again, everything we need is still present, we just need a consensus on whether or not we are allowed to apply it. This is why the draft policy repeatedly uses the words " as with other forms of protection". The draft policy would be an addendum to [[WP:PP]] and PC would be just one of the options available to admins when reviewing requests for protection, whether made at RFPP or through other channels.. The draft policy is just that, a draft. It is not intended to be complete or perfect, it is intended to give us something to work with if the tool is approved and it is expected to be changed over time, or even right away, just like any other policy. The idea here is to make the decision to use the tool or not use it, and sort out the smaller details in the usual manner, by identifying specific issues through regular use and correcting them as we go. [[User:Beeblebrox|Beeblebrox]] ([[User talk:Beeblebrox|talk]]) 16:55, 26 March 2012 (UTC)