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: They don't always apply to whole articles, though. [[user:thumperward|Chris Cunningham (not at work)]] - [[user talk:thumperward|talk]] 11:06, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
::Not to mention the technical difficulties of forcing them to always appear at the top. And what about where an infobox and a sidebar is used on the same article; which one should win out? This type of stuff needs to be decided case-by-case, and if a sidebar needs to appear at the top of an article, it's far easier and simpler to just put its template call at the top of the article's source than to try and force a technical solution from within the template. <span style=white-space:nowrap>「[[User:Dinoguy1000|<span style=color:#00f>ダイノ</span><span style=color:#080>ガイ</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Dinoguy1000|<span style=color:#F90>千？！</span>]]」<sup>[[Help:JP|?]] · [[User talk:Dinoguy1000|<small style=font-weight:normal>Talk⇒Dinoguy1000
:::That's what I meant: place the template at the top of the page source. Also, I'd think that the infobox would come first since it is more important/relevant. Images, however, I think should come after since ''should'' always apply to a specific section (I think it's sloppy when this isn't the case). [[User:SharkD|SharkD]] ([[User talk:SharkD|talk]]) 06:44, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
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::If it is necessary, I'd prefer a means of turning it off on a per-template basis, instead of having to adjust each individual link. <span style="border:1px solid #f57900;padding:1px;">[[User:SharkD|<span style="color:#8f5902;padding-left:1px;">SharkD</span>]] [[User_talk:SharkD|<span style="color:#fff;background:#fcaf3e;"> Talk </span>]]</span> 01:00, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
::: I have no idea. [[User:Anomie|Anomie]][[User talk:Anomie|⚔]] 02:55, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
::::Just as a pointer, {{tl|Navbox}} has used the "nowraplinks" class for a long time now. Other than that, I have no opinion on whether it's really necessary here. <span style=white-space:nowrap>「[[User:Dinoguy1000|<span style=color:#00f>ダイノ</span><span style=color:#080>ガイ</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Dinoguy1000|<span style=color:#F90>千？！</span>]]」<sup>[[Help:IJP|?]] · [[User talk:Dinoguy1000#top|Talk⇒Dinoguy1000]]</sup></span> 04:15, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
:I went ahead and modified the template so that the behavior can be disabled if needed. It is still enabled by default. <span style="border:1px solid #f57900;padding:1px;">[[User:SharkD|<span style="color:#8f5902;padding-left:1px;">SharkD</span>]] [[User_talk:SharkD|<span style="color:#fff;background:#fcaf3e;"> Talk </span>]]</span> 05:30, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
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== Problem with width ==
Something recently caused [[:Template:Violence against women]] to broaden, and it wasn't edits to the template itself. It uses this sidebar template, but reverting a recent edit to this made no difference. Can anyone think what might have caused it? [[User:SlimVirgin|<
: The culprit appears to be the inclusion of "width:22em". I added "width:auto" to the [[:Template:Violence against women]], which overrides this statement. [[User:Frietjes|Frietjes]] ([[User talk:Frietjes|talk]]) 15:30, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
::Thanks for doing that, Frietjes. [[User:SlimVirgin|<
== Question on "sidebar with collapsible lists" template ==
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== Recent changes ==
Recent changes have disturbed the widths of templates {{tl|Hinduism}} (width became smaller) and {{tl|Vaishnavism}} (width increased suddenly). I am unsure about the exact problem or which edits caused it. --[[User:Redtigerxyz|<
:I think Frietjes fixed it. <span style="font-family:'Trebuchet MS'"> — [[User:Edokter|<span style="color:#008"><i>E</i>dokter</span>]] ([[User talk:Edokter|<span style="color:#080">talk</span>]]) — </span> 17:33, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
:: <s>The problem still exists. I observed when loading [[Hinduism]], template Hinduism appears 100 % width and on completion of loading, it suddenly becomes small width. What has changed? Should I add any parameters to the Hinduism et al templates? --[[User:Redtigerxyz|<
::: The second edit solved the problem. Thanks Frietjes. --[[User:Redtigerxyz|<
:::: yes, I almost had it in the first edit, but missed an extra }. looks like it works now. I also improved the logic for the new float option (now works if float exists but is blank). [[User:Frietjes|Frietjes]] ([[User talk:Frietjes|talk]]) 17:41, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
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* cellspacing
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---'''''— [[User:Gadget850|<span style="color:gray">Gadget850 (Ed)</span>]]<span style="color:darkblue"> </span>'''''
:There are many templates with these; {{tl|navbox}} and {{tl|infobox}} to name a few complicated examples. They need some CSS restructuring, including Common.css. Currently looking into it. <span style="font-family:'Trebuchet MS'"> — [[User:Edokter|<span style="color:#008"><i>E</i>dokter</span>]] ([[User talk:Edokter|<span style="color:#080">talk</span>]]) — </span> 17:45, 24 September 2012 (UTC)
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|style="text-align: center; background:#FFFFFF; "|[[Image:GDP PPP Per Capita IMF 2008.svg|200px]]<br/>
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|<div class="NavFrame" style="border-style: none; padding: 0px; text-align: left; border-left: 0px; border-right: 0px; border-top: 0px; border-bottom: 0px;" cellpadding=0 cellspacing=0><div class="border-style: none; padding: 0px; background:#FFFFFF; text-align: left; font-size: 11px; height:1.9em;"> '''[[:Category:Economies by country|Economies by country]]'''</div></div>
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[[Microeconomics]]{{·}} [[Macroeconomics]]<br/>
[[History of economic thought]]<br/>
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! style="background:#ddddee; font-size: 95%; border-top: 1px solid #BEBEBE; border-bottom: 1px solid #BEBEBE; padding: 0 3px 0 3px;" | [[JEL classification codes#Mathematical and quantitative methods JEL: C Subcategories|Technical methods]]
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[[Behavioral economics|Behavioral]]{{·}} [[Cultural economics|Cultural]]{{·}} [[Evolutionary economics|Evolutionary]]<br>
[[Economic growth|Growth]]{{·}} [[Development economics|Development]]{{·}} [[Economic history|History]]<br>
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[[:Category:Economics|Categories]] {{·}} [[Index of economics articles|Index]] {{·}} [[Outline of economics|Outline]]
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:::::Well, this may be only a semantic (rather than substantive) distinction, but more strictly speaking, there is no "<nowiki>{{·}}</nowiki>" or "'''·'''" link separator in the right template above, only <nowiki>*</nowiki> link separators that end up looking like bullets. So I'm not sure that the above applies. But, suppose that someone asserts otherwise, ''presenting a replicable basis of verification''. That would be of interest, especially with a description of what the compromise in accessibility looks like to the affected person from use of <nowiki><br/></nowiki>. My thanks. --[[User:Thomasmeeks|Thomasmeeks]] ([[User talk:Thomasmeeks|talk]]) 20:26, 4 December 2012 (UTC)
::::::I don't know how much you know about [[cascading style sheets]], but [[MediaWiki:Common.css]] contains a number of stylings specific to the class <code>hlist</code>. The two chunks to particularly observe are this:
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/* Display list items inline and make them nowrap */
.hlist dd,
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.hlist dd:after,
.hlist li:after {
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::::::Essentially, when the <code>hlist</code> class is applied to a bulleted list, the first chunk of code above eliminates the newlines which normally occur between list items; and the second chunk alters the bullets that ''would'' have appeared at the start of the line so that they are displayed them as a boldface <code>&middot;</code> We can demonstrate that quite simply - if I put the following wikicode:
<div class=hlist>
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:: And, as regards custom parameters, who says one size (bodystyle, defaults) should fit all..?
:: [[User:CsDix|CsDix]] ([[User talk:CsDix|talk]]) 03:32, 21 February 2013 (UTC)
:::<p>Hardly censorship. The template you used should only be used for uncontroversial changes. This is controversial. Therefore, the template should not have been used. QED.</p><p>Those places are steadily becoming fewer. Should we limit everyone for the sake of the few (less than 10% now!)? In general though, the pages which use this template [[graceful failure|fail gracefully]].</p><p>I'm simply saying on the point of the custom parameters that one parameter ''would'' fit all: "style" or "bodystyle" (whichever we want to call it). --[[User:Izno|Izno]] ([[User talk:Izno|talk]]) 03:41, 21 February 2013 (UTC)</p>
:::: It ''smacks of'' censorship. Imagine a different point of view for a moment.
:::: I don't know whether or not changing the default width will be controversial. How do you know it will be – beyond yourself and anyone you know who shares your point of view – ?
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