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:# <font color="#cc6600">[[User:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#cc6600;">Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs]]</fontspan>]]<sup><small>(<font color="#ff6600">[[User talk:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#ff6600;">talk]]</fontspan>]])</small></sup> 23:30, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
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:# [[User:Courcelles|Courcelles]] 01:23, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# -- [[User:Euryalus|Euryalus]] ([[User talk:Euryalus|talk]]) 01:27, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
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:# [[User:Newyorkbrad|Newyorkbrad]] ([[User talk:Newyorkbrad|talk]]) 02:37, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# '''[[User:LFaraone|L]]<font color="darkgreen">[[User talk:LFaraone|<span style="color:darkgreen;">Faraone]]</fontspan>]]''' 02:53, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# '''[[User:DGG| DGG]]''' ([[User talk:DGG| talk ]]) 05:20, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.118em 0.118em 0.118em;" class="texhtml"> '''[[User:Salvio giuliano|Salvio]]'''</span> [[User talk:Salvio giuliano|<sup>Let's talk about it!</sup>]] 12:06, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
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:# &nbsp;[[User:Roger Davies|<span style="color:maroon; font-variant:small-caps">'''Roger Davies'''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Roger Davies|''talk'']]</sup> 22:42, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
:# <font color="#cc6600">[[User:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#cc6600;">Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs]]</fontspan>]]<sup><small>(<font color="#ff6600">[[User talk:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#ff6600;">talk]]</fontspan>]])</small></sup> 23:30, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small> 00:01, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 00:43, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:Courcelles|Courcelles]] 01:23, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# -- [[User:Euryalus|Euryalus]] ([[User talk:Euryalus|talk]]) 01:27, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
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:# (minor copyedit) [[User:Newyorkbrad|Newyorkbrad]] ([[User talk:Newyorkbrad|talk]]) 02:37, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# '''[[User:LFaraone|L]]<font color="darkgreen">[[User talk:LFaraone|<span style="color:darkgreen;">Faraone]]</fontspan>]]''' 02:53, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# '''[[User:DGG| DGG]]''' ([[User talk:DGG| talk ]]) 05:20, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.118em 0.118em 0.118em;" class="texhtml"> '''[[User:Salvio giuliano|Salvio]]'''</span> [[User talk:Salvio giuliano|<sup>Let's talk about it!</sup>]] 12:06, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
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:# <font color="#cc6600">[[User:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#cc6600;">Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs]]</fontspan>]]<sup><small>(<font color="#ff6600">[[User talk:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#ff6600;">talk]]</fontspan>]])</small></sup> 23:30, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small> 00:01, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
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:# [[User:Courcelles|Courcelles]] 01:23, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# -- [[User:Euryalus|Euryalus]] ([[User talk:Euryalus|talk]]) 01:27, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
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:# [[User:Seraphimblade|Seraphimblade]] <small><sup>[[User talk:Seraphimblade|Talk to me]]</sup></small> 02:19, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:Newyorkbrad|Newyorkbrad]] ([[User talk:Newyorkbrad|talk]]) 02:37, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# '''[[User:LFaraone|L]]<font color="darkgreen">[[User talk:LFaraone|<span style="color:darkgreen;">Faraone]]</fontspan>]]''' 02:53, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# '''[[User:DGG| DGG]]''' ([[User talk:DGG| talk ]]) 05:21, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.118em 0.118em 0.118em;" class="texhtml"> '''[[User:Salvio giuliano|Salvio]]'''</span> [[User talk:Salvio giuliano|<sup>Let's talk about it!</sup>]] 12:06, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
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:# &nbsp;[[User:Roger Davies|<span style="color:maroon; font-variant:small-caps">'''Roger Davies'''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Roger Davies|''talk'']]</sup> 22:42, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
:# <font color="#cc6600">[[User:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#cc6600;">Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs]]</fontspan>]]<sup><small>(<font color="#ff6600">[[User talk:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#ff6600;">talk]]</fontspan>]])</small></sup> 23:30, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small> 00:01, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 00:43, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:Courcelles|Courcelles]] 01:24, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
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:# [[User:Seraphimblade|Seraphimblade]] <small><sup>[[User talk:Seraphimblade|Talk to me]]</sup></small> 02:19, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:Newyorkbrad|Newyorkbrad]] ([[User talk:Newyorkbrad|talk]]) 02:46, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# '''[[User:LFaraone|L]]<font color="darkgreen">[[User talk:LFaraone|<span style="color:darkgreen;">Faraone]]</fontspan>]]''' 02:53, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# '''[[User:DGG| DGG]]''' ([[User talk:DGG| talk ]]) 05:22, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.118em 0.118em 0.118em;" class="texhtml"> '''[[User:Salvio giuliano|Salvio]]'''</span> [[User talk:Salvio giuliano|<sup>Let's talk about it!</sup>]] 12:06, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
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:# &nbsp;[[User:Roger Davies|<span style="color:maroon; font-variant:small-caps">'''Roger Davies'''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Roger Davies|''talk'']]</sup> 22:42, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
:# <font color="#cc6600">[[User:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#cc6600;">Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs]]</fontspan>]]<sup><small>(<font color="#ff6600">[[User talk:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#ff6600;">talk]]</fontspan>]])</small></sup> 23:30, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small> 00:01, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 00:43, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:Courcelles|Courcelles]] 01:25, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# -- [[User:Euryalus|Euryalus]] ([[User talk:Euryalus|talk]]) 01:27, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
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:# [[User:Seraphimblade|Seraphimblade]] <small><sup>[[User talk:Seraphimblade|Talk to me]]</sup></small> 02:19, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# Full support, but as a matter of style, I might introduce the principle by describing what the policy does cover before turning to what it does not. [[User:Newyorkbrad|Newyorkbrad]] ([[User talk:Newyorkbrad|talk]]) 02:46, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# '''[[User:LFaraone|L]]<font color="darkgreen">[[User talk:LFaraone|<span style="color:darkgreen;">Faraone]]</fontspan>]]''' 02:53, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# '''[[User:DGG| DGG]]''' ([[User talk:DGG| talk ]]) 05:23, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.118em 0.118em 0.118em;" class="texhtml"> '''[[User:Salvio giuliano|Salvio]]'''</span> [[User talk:Salvio giuliano|<sup>Let's talk about it!</sup>]] 12:06, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
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:#[[User:Beeblebrox|Beeblebrox]] ([[User talk:Beeblebrox|talk]]) 22:33, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
:# &nbsp;[[User:Roger Davies|<span style="color:maroon; font-variant:small-caps">'''Roger Davies'''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Roger Davies|''talk'']]</sup> 22:42, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
:# <font color="#cc6600">[[User:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#cc6600;">Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs]]</fontspan>]]<sup><small>(<font color="#ff6600">[[User talk:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#ff6600;">talk]]</fontspan>]])</small></sup> 23:30, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small> 00:01, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 00:43, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:Courcelles|Courcelles]] 01:25, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:Timotheus Canens|T. Canens]] ([[User talk:Timotheus Canens|talk]]) 01:48, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# While I understand Euryalus' concerns, I still think this is a necessary principle here. SPAs who edit appropriately and neutrally are welcome regardless, but hyperfocused editors not staying neutral or behaving badly can be very disruptive indeed. [[User:Seraphimblade|Seraphimblade]] <small><sup>[[User talk:Seraphimblade|Talk to me]]</sup></small> 02:19, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# Support, but see my comment below. [[User:Newyorkbrad|Newyorkbrad]] ([[User talk:Newyorkbrad|talk]]) 02:46, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# '''[[User:LFaraone|L]]<font color="darkgreen">[[User talk:LFaraone|<span style="color:darkgreen;">Faraone]]</fontspan>]]''' 02:53, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# '''[[User:DGG| DGG]]''' ([[User talk:DGG| talk ]]) 05:23, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# In my opinion, this is useful guidance for editors and sysop going forward, as we are about to authorise discretionary sanctions in this topic area: this principle lets people know what the standards of behaviour are likely to be at AE. <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.118em 0.118em 0.118em;" class="texhtml"> '''[[User:Salvio giuliano|Salvio]]'''</span> [[User talk:Salvio giuliano|<sup>Let's talk about it!</sup>]] 12:06, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
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:# &nbsp;[[User:Roger Davies|<span style="color:maroon; font-variant:small-caps">'''Roger Davies'''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Roger Davies|''talk'']]</sup> 22:42, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
:# <font color="#cc6600">[[User:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#cc6600;">Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs]]</fontspan>]]<sup><small>(<font color="#ff6600">[[User talk:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#ff6600;">talk]]</fontspan>]])</small></sup> 23:30, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small> 00:01, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 00:43, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:Courcelles|Courcelles]] 01:26, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# -- [[User:Euryalus|Euryalus]] ([[User talk:Euryalus|talk]]) 01:27, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
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:# [[User:Newyorkbrad|Newyorkbrad]] ([[User talk:Newyorkbrad|talk]]) 02:46, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:#: I strongly agree with Salvio's comment below. [[User:Newyorkbrad|Newyorkbrad]] ([[User talk:Newyorkbrad|talk]]) 01:31, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
:# '''[[User:LFaraone|L]]<font color="darkgreen">[[User talk:LFaraone|<span style="color:darkgreen;">Faraone]]</fontspan>]]''' 02:53, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# '''[[User:DGG| DGG]]''' ([[User talk:DGG| talk ]]) 05:24, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# With the understanding that the occasional outburst should be forgiven and that the fact an editor was trying to protect Wikipedia and uphold its policies may be invoked in mitigation. <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.118em 0.118em 0.118em;" class="texhtml"> '''[[User:Salvio giuliano|Salvio]]'''</span> [[User talk:Salvio giuliano|<sup>Let's talk about it!</sup>]] 12:06, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
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:# &nbsp;[[User:Roger Davies|<span style="color:maroon; font-variant:small-caps">'''Roger Davies'''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Roger Davies|''talk'']]</sup> 22:42, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
:# <font color="#cc6600">[[User:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#cc6600;">Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs]]</fontspan>]]<sup><small>(<font color="#ff6600">[[User talk:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#ff6600;">talk]]</fontspan>]])</small></sup> 23:30, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small> 00:01, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 00:43, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# -- [[User:Euryalus|Euryalus]] ([[User talk:Euryalus|talk]]) 01:27, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:Courcelles|Courcelles]] 01:29, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
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:# [[User:Seraphimblade|Seraphimblade]] <small><sup>[[User talk:Seraphimblade|Talk to me]]</sup></small> 02:19, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:Newyorkbrad|Newyorkbrad]] ([[User talk:Newyorkbrad|talk]]) 02:48, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# '''[[User:LFaraone|L]]<font color="darkgreen">[[User talk:LFaraone|<span style="color:darkgreen;">Faraone]]</fontspan>]]''' 02:53, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# '''[[User:DGG| DGG]]''' ([[User talk:DGG| talk ]]) 05:24, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.118em 0.118em 0.118em;" class="texhtml"> '''[[User:Salvio giuliano|Salvio]]'''</span> [[User talk:Salvio giuliano|<sup>Let's talk about it!</sup>]] 12:06, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
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:#[[User:Beeblebrox|Beeblebrox]] ([[User talk:Beeblebrox|talk]]) 22:33, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
:# &nbsp;[[User:Roger Davies|<span style="color:maroon; font-variant:small-caps">'''Roger Davies'''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Roger Davies|''talk'']]</sup> 22:42, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
:# <font color="#cc6600">[[User:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#cc6600;">Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs]]</fontspan>]]<sup><small>(<font color="#ff6600">[[User talk:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#ff6600;">talk]]</fontspan>]])</small></sup> 23:30, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small> 00:01, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 00:43, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# -- [[User:Euryalus|Euryalus]] ([[User talk:Euryalus|talk]]) 01:27, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:Courcelles|Courcelles]] 01:30, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
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:# [[User:Seraphimblade|Seraphimblade]] <small><sup>[[User talk:Seraphimblade|Talk to me]]</sup></small> 02:19, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:Newyorkbrad|Newyorkbrad]] ([[User talk:Newyorkbrad|talk]]) 02:48, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# '''[[User:LFaraone|L]]<font color="darkgreen">[[User talk:LFaraone|<span style="color:darkgreen;">Faraone]]</fontspan>]]''' 02:53, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# '''[[User:DGG| DGG]]''' ([[User talk:DGG| talk ]]) 05:24, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.118em 0.118em 0.118em;" class="texhtml"> '''[[User:Salvio giuliano|Salvio]]'''</span> [[User talk:Salvio giuliano|<sup>Let's talk about it!</sup>]] 12:06, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
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:#[[User:Beeblebrox|Beeblebrox]] ([[User talk:Beeblebrox|talk]]) 22:33, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
:# &nbsp;[[User:Roger Davies|<span style="color:maroon; font-variant:small-caps">'''Roger Davies'''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Roger Davies|''talk'']]</sup> 22:42, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
:# <font color="#cc6600">[[User:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#cc6600;">Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs]]</fontspan>]]<sup><small>(<font color="#ff6600">[[User talk:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#ff6600;">talk]]</fontspan>]])</small></sup> 23:30, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small> 00:01, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 00:43, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# -- [[User:Euryalus|Euryalus]] ([[User talk:Euryalus|talk]]) 01:27, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:Courcelles|Courcelles]] 01:30, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
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:# [[User:Seraphimblade|Seraphimblade]] <small><sup>[[User talk:Seraphimblade|Talk to me]]</sup></small> 02:19, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:Newyorkbrad|Newyorkbrad]] ([[User talk:Newyorkbrad|talk]]) 02:48, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# '''[[User:LFaraone|L]]<font color="darkgreen">[[User talk:LFaraone|<span style="color:darkgreen;">Faraone]]</fontspan>]]''' 02:53, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# '''[[User:DGG| DGG]]''' ([[User talk:DGG| talk ]]) 05:25, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.118em 0.118em 0.118em;" class="texhtml"> '''[[User:Salvio giuliano|Salvio]]'''</span> [[User talk:Salvio giuliano|<sup>Let's talk about it!</sup>]] 12:06, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
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:# [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small> 07:12, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# -- [[User:Euryalus|Euryalus]] ([[User talk:Euryalus|talk]]) 07:35, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 07:46, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# This probably should be moved up a little in the list of principles. [[User:Timotheus Canens|T. Canens]] ([[User talk:Timotheus Canens|talk]]) 09:04, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# Per my comments on the workshop. [[User:Newyorkbrad|Newyorkbrad]] ([[User talk:Newyorkbrad|talk]]) 11:49, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
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:# [[User:Courcelles|Courcelles]] 17:39, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# '''[[User:DGG| DGG]]''' ([[User talk:DGG| talk ]]) 20:01, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# '''[[User:LFaraone|L]]<font color="darkgreen">[[User talk:LFaraone|<span style="color:darkgreen;">Faraone]]</fontspan>]]''' 14:09, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
:# <font color="#cc6600">[[User:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#cc6600;">Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs]]</fontspan>]]<sup><small>(<font color="#ff6600">[[User talk:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#ff6600;">talk]]</fontspan>]])</small></sup> 14:26, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:Seraphimblade|Seraphimblade]] <small><sup>[[User talk:Seraphimblade|Talk to me]]</sup></small> 20:28, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:# ''[[User:NativeForeigner|NativeForeigner]]'' <sup>[[User talk:NativeForeigner|Talk]]</sup> 01:20, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
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:# --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 01:29, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small> 02:26, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
:# In the spirit of [[Jacques de La Palice#Lapalissade|Monsieur de La Palice]]. <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.118em 0.118em 0.118em;" class="texhtml"> '''[[User:Salvio giuliano|Salvio]]'''</span> [[User talk:Salvio giuliano|<sup>Let's talk about it!</sup>]] 11:54, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
:#: Working with Salvio is always educational. [[User:Newyorkbrad|Newyorkbrad]] ([[User talk:Newyorkbrad|talk]]) 15:23, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
:# See also my comment below. [[User:Newyorkbrad|Newyorkbrad]] ([[User talk:Newyorkbrad|talk]]) 15:23, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
:# '''[[User:LFaraone|L]]<font color="darkgreen">[[User talk:LFaraone|<span style="color:darkgreen;">Faraone]]</fontspan>]]''' 18:54, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
:#[[User:Beeblebrox|Beeblebrox]] ([[User talk:Beeblebrox|talk]]) 18:56, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
:# <font color="#cc6600">[[User:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#cc6600;">Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs]]</fontspan>]]<sup><small>(<font color="#ff6600">[[User talk:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#ff6600;">talk]]</fontspan>]])</small></sup> 19:49, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:Courcelles|Courcelles]] 15:07, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:Timotheus Canens|T. Canens]] ([[User talk:Timotheus Canens|talk]]) 15:10, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
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:# [[User:Timotheus Canens|T. Canens]] ([[User talk:Timotheus Canens|talk]]) 18:58, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
:#This definitely applies here. [[User:Beeblebrox|Beeblebrox]] ([[User talk:Beeblebrox|talk]]) 19:34, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
:# '''[[User:LFaraone|L]]<font color="darkgreen">[[User talk:LFaraone|<span style="color:darkgreen;">Faraone]]</fontspan>]]''' 19:35, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:Euryalus|Euryalus]] ([[User talk:Euryalus|talk]]) 19:39, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:Newyorkbrad|Newyorkbrad]] ([[User talk:Newyorkbrad|talk]]) 19:58, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small> 20:44, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
:# '''[[User:DGG| DGG]]''' ([[User talk:DGG| talk ]]) 21:09, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
:# --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 21:34, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
:# ''[[User:NativeForeigner|NativeForeigner]]'' <sup>[[User talk:NativeForeigner|Talk]]</sup> 12:34, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
:Oppose:
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:#[[User:Beeblebrox|Beeblebrox]] ([[User talk:Beeblebrox|talk]]) 22:35, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
:# &nbsp;[[User:Roger Davies|<span style="color:maroon; font-variant:small-caps">'''Roger Davies'''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Roger Davies|''talk'']]</sup> 22:52, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
:# <font color="#cc6600">[[User:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#cc6600;">Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs]]</fontspan>]]<sup><small>(<font color="#ff6600">[[User talk:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#ff6600;">talk]]</fontspan>]])</small></sup> 23:35, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small> 00:02, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# -- [[User:Euryalus|Euryalus]] ([[User talk:Euryalus|talk]]) 01:28, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:Courcelles|Courcelles]] 01:30, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# '''[[User:LFaraone|L]]<font color="darkgreen">[[User talk:LFaraone|<span style="color:darkgreen;">Faraone]]</fontspan>]]''' 02:58, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# The links are to the ''article'' entitled "Gamergate controversy." I express no view as to whether there actually exists an identifiable real-world thing that is best described as a "GamerGate controversy," or whether a different designation would better describe the entire fiasco. [[User:Newyorkbrad|Newyorkbrad]] ([[User talk:Newyorkbrad|talk]]) 03:02, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 05:24, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# '''[[User:DGG| DGG]]''' ([[User talk:DGG| talk ]]) 05:25, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:Seraphimblade|Seraphimblade]] <small><sup>[[User talk:Seraphimblade|Talk to me]]</sup></small> 06:13, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
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:#[[User:Beeblebrox|Beeblebrox]] ([[User talk:Beeblebrox|talk]]) 22:42, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
:# &nbsp;[[User:Roger Davies|<span style="color:maroon; font-variant:small-caps">'''Roger Davies'''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Roger Davies|''talk'']]</sup> 22:52, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
:# <font color="#cc6600">[[User:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#cc6600;">Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs]]</fontspan>]]<sup><small>(<font color="#ff6600">[[User talk:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#ff6600;">talk]]</fontspan>]])</small></sup> 23:35, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small> 00:02, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:Courcelles|Courcelles]] 01:31, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# -- [[User:Euryalus|Euryalus]] ([[User talk:Euryalus|talk]]) 01:54, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# '''[[User:LFaraone|L]]<font color="darkgreen">[[User talk:LFaraone|<span style="color:darkgreen;">Faraone]]</fontspan>]]''' 02:58, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# "The dispute" actually comprises an entire series of disputes, some serious and others less so, some legitimate and others less so, some between two sides both acting in good faith and others less so. [[User:Newyorkbrad|Newyorkbrad]] ([[User talk:Newyorkbrad|talk]]) 03:06, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# I strongly agree with Brad --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 05:26, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# agreeing also with NYB's comment '''[[User:DGG| DGG]]''' ([[User talk:DGG| talk ]]) 05:27, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# Agreed with Newyorkbrad. [[User:Seraphimblade|Seraphimblade]] <small><sup>[[User talk:Seraphimblade|Talk to me]]</sup></small> 06:13, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
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:#[[User:Beeblebrox|Beeblebrox]] ([[User talk:Beeblebrox|talk]]) 22:44, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
:# &nbsp;[[User:Roger Davies|<span style="color:maroon; font-variant:small-caps">'''Roger Davies'''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Roger Davies|''talk'']]</sup> 23:31, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
:# <font color="#cc6600">[[User:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#cc6600;">Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs]]</fontspan>]]<sup><small>(<font color="#ff6600">[[User talk:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#ff6600;">talk]]</fontspan>]])</small></sup> 23:35, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small> 00:02, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:Courcelles|Courcelles]] 01:32, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# Yes <s>on soapboxing; less convinced that these diffs prove "battleground." Supporting in the context of the proposed remedy below.</s> -- [[User:Euryalus|Euryalus]] ([[User talk:Euryalus|talk]]) 04:40, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# added some diffs from the talk page --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 07:28, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:#:Added a clause about their topic ban --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 07:42, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:Newyorkbrad|Newyorkbrad]] ([[User talk:Newyorkbrad|talk]]) 11:52, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.118em 0.118em 0.118em;" class="texhtml"> '''[[User:Salvio giuliano|Salvio]]'''</span> [[User talk:Salvio giuliano|<sup>Let's talk about it!</sup>]] 12:15, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:Seraphimblade|Seraphimblade]] <small><sup>[[User talk:Seraphimblade|Talk to me]]</sup></small> 15:56, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:Timotheus Canens|T. Canens]] ([[User talk:Timotheus Canens|talk]]) 03:39, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
:# '''[[User:LFaraone|L]]<font color="darkgreen">[[User talk:LFaraone|<span style="color:darkgreen;">Faraone]]</fontspan>]]''' 14:13, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
:# ''[[User:NativeForeigner|NativeForeigner]]'' <sup>[[User talk:NativeForeigner|Talk]]</sup> 01:27, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
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:::One diff appears to be a duplicate, so I removed it. {{ping|Beeblebrox}} did you mean to refer to some other diff? '''[[User:LFaraone|L]]<font color="darkgreen">[[User talk:LFaraone|<span style="color:darkgreen;">Faraone]]</fontspan>]]''' 14:13, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
 
=== Gamaliel ===
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:#[[User:Beeblebrox|Beeblebrox]] ([[User talk:Beeblebrox|talk]]) 22:44, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
:# &nbsp;[[User:Roger Davies|<span style="color:maroon; font-variant:small-caps">'''Roger Davies'''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Roger Davies|''talk'']]</sup> 23:33, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
:# <font color="#cc6600">[[User:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#cc6600;">Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs]]</fontspan>]]<sup><small>(<font color="#ff6600">[[User talk:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#ff6600;">talk]]</fontspan>]])</small></sup> 23:35, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
:# <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.118em 0.118em 0.118em;" class="texhtml"> '''[[User:Salvio giuliano|Salvio]]'''</span> [[User talk:Salvio giuliano|<sup>Let's talk about it!</sup>]] 12:15, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# This was not egregiously bad, but admins involved in taking an administrative role should avoid substantive discussions of content. [[User:Seraphimblade|Seraphimblade]] <small><sup>[[User talk:Seraphimblade|Talk to me]]</sup></small> 15:58, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
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:# True on its face, but I do not believe the conduct rises to the level of passing an arbitration finding against this editor. [[User:Courcelles|Courcelles]] 01:33, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# The question presented as to Gamaliel is whether his engagement with the substance of "Gamergate" or related issues reached the level that would disqualify him from taking administrator action in this topic-area. I conclude that it did not. That said, there are times that even a borderline "involved" admin may best serve the project by stepping away from the area, given that if he or she does not, his or her participation may itself become a focus of dispute. But the argument for taking that step is mitigated when accusations of "involvement" are flung against substantially ''every'' admin working on the topic-area, and when for whatever reason, other admins are reluctant to intervene. [[User:Newyorkbrad|Newyorkbrad]] ([[User talk:Newyorkbrad|talk]]) 03:11, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# No, just no. --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 05:27, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# I do not feel that this finding shows Gamaliel to be involved to a degree that he should avoid administrative actions. More or less per Newyorkbrad. [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small> 05:31, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# Per NYB. [[User:Timotheus Canens|T. Canens]] ([[User talk:Timotheus Canens|talk]]) 09:08, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# Per NYB -- [[User:Euryalus|Euryalus]] ([[User talk:Euryalus|talk]]) 20:02, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
:# {{ping|DGG}} in my opinion, there isn't much point in a FoF of this sort if we cannot support a sanction. '''[[User:LFaraone|L]]<font color="darkgreen">[[User talk:LFaraone|<span style="color:darkgreen;">Faraone]]</fontspan>]]''' 18:33, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:Abstain:
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:::<s>I'm not sure whether what follows in the relevant remedy should also be mentioned here to some degree, for maximum clarity. '''[[User:LFaraone|L]]<font color="darkgreen">[[User talk:LFaraone|<span style="color:darkgreen;">Faraone]]</fontspan>]]''' 02:58, 20 January 2015 (UTC)</s>
::{{ping|LFaraone}}Perhaps having this might help to show we're aware of the issue, and chose not to sanction. '''[[User:DGG| DGG]]''' ([[User talk:DGG| talk ]]) 20:06, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
 
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:#[[User:Beeblebrox|Beeblebrox]] ([[User talk:Beeblebrox|talk]]) 22:45, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
:# &nbsp;[[User:Roger Davies|<span style="color:maroon; font-variant:small-caps">'''Roger Davies'''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Roger Davies|''talk'']]</sup> 23:33, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
:# <font color="#cc6600">[[User:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#cc6600;">Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs]]</fontspan>]]<sup><small>(<font color="#ff6600">[[User talk:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#ff6600;">talk]]</fontspan>]])</small></sup> 23:35, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
:# <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.118em 0.118em 0.118em;" class="texhtml"> '''[[User:Salvio giuliano|Salvio]]'''</span> [[User talk:Salvio giuliano|<sup>Let's talk about it!</sup>]] 12:15, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# This feels like a content decision, but I agree that the sourcing was wrong. --[[User:In actu|In actu (Guerillero)]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 01:10, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
:# Switching to a support<s>, albeit a weak one.</s> [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small> 21:28, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:Timotheus Canens|T. Canens]] ([[User talk:Timotheus Canens|talk]]) 23:58, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
:# on balance '''[[User:DGG| DGG]]''' ([[User talk:DGG| talk ]]) 06:23, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:# '''[[User:LFaraone|L]]<font color="darkgreen">[[User talk:LFaraone|<span style="color:darkgreen;">Faraone]]</fontspan>]]''' 18:35, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:# Edit warring yes, though mitigated by context. Improper use of sources is arguable. Battleground not made out on this evidence. Supporting as enough of the claim is technically accurate, but this is a weak endorsement only. -- [[User:Euryalus|Euryalus]] ([[User talk:Euryalus|talk]]) 21:59, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:# ''[[User:NativeForeigner|NativeForeigner]]'' <sup>[[User talk:NativeForeigner|Talk]]</sup> 01:27, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
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::: The "sources" diffs, which David has now expanded below, aren't weak at all. It's a simple matter of comparing text A with text B and seeing if they match. They don't. &nbsp;[[User:Roger Davies|<span style="color:maroon; font-variant:small-caps">'''Roger Davies'''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Roger Davies|''talk'']]</sup> 17:38, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:Per {{u|GorillaWarfare}}. Not seeing this as written as anything that rises to the level of an arbitration finding. [[User:Courcelles|Courcelles]] 01:34, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:: <s>The battleground conduct is weak and I am not going to touch a misuse of source like this --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 07:36, 20 January 2015 (UTC)</s>
::: Why aren't you going to touch misuse of sources? It's a well-established misconduct issue. &nbsp;[[User:Roger Davies|<span style="color:maroon; font-variant:small-caps">'''Roger Davies'''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Roger Davies|''talk'']]</sup> 17:38, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# I don't see enough here to support a finding. [[User:Seraphimblade|Seraphimblade]] <small><sup>[[User talk:Seraphimblade|Talk to me]]</sup></small> 16:56, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
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:::I believe that this editor sought in good faith to address BLP violations and other issues within the topic-area, although some specific instances of conduct were suboptimal. I incline toward opposing, but would like to see any response by the drafters to the opposers before voting. [[User:Newyorkbrad|Newyorkbrad]] ([[User talk:Newyorkbrad|talk]]) 03:18, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:::*The misuse of sources is pretty straightforward. North adds "[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Brianna_Wu&diff=630202630&oldid=630201480 which mocked and criticized those in the movement who were harassing]" sourced to [http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-intersect/wp/2014/10/14/the-only-guide-to-gamergate-you-will-ever-need-to-read/], which only states "This one, Brianna Wu, because she dared to tweet some jokes about the ongoing drama." Next, North adds more, citing Wu as mocking "the movement and its supporters for, among other things, making illogical claims and misogynistic threats" to [The Boston Globe https://web.archive.org/web/20141202115648/http://www.bostonglobe.com/lifestyle/style/2014/10/29/threatening-video-gaming-industry-movement-grows-arlington-game-developer-forced-flee-her-home/BRHwDSGjMsSnHquH9jYQIJ/story.html], where the actual text is "But Wu was thrust into the spotlight on Oct. 9, when she tweeted what she intended as a joke. It mocked members of a shadowy and threatening gaming movement called GamerGate, ridiculing them for, among other things, “fighting an apocalyptic future where women are 8 percent of programmers and not 3 percent". They are appending the sources to statements they do not support. <font color="#cc6600">[[User:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#cc6600;">Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs]]</fontspan>]]<sup><small>(<font color="#ff6600">[[User talk:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#ff6600;">talk]]</fontspan>]])</small></sup> 14:10, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
 
===Ryulong===
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:#[[User:Beeblebrox|Beeblebrox]] ([[User talk:Beeblebrox|talk]]) 22:45, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
:# &nbsp;[[User:Roger Davies|<span style="color:maroon; font-variant:small-caps">'''Roger Davies'''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Roger Davies|''talk'']]</sup> 23:33, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
:# <font color="#cc6600">[[User:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#cc6600;">Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs]]</fontspan>]]<sup><small>(<font color="#ff6600">[[User talk:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#ff6600;">talk]]</fontspan>]])</small></sup> 23:35, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
:# I share some of GW and Courcelles's concerns, but I think that this will roll --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 07:39, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.118em 0.118em 0.118em;" class="texhtml"> '''[[User:Salvio giuliano|Salvio]]'''</span> [[User talk:Salvio giuliano|<sup>Let's talk about it!</sup>]] 12:15, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# I would prefer the alternative proposed by GW (and may propose it myself), but this can't pass by with no finding at all. [[User:Seraphimblade|Seraphimblade]] <small><sup>[[User talk:Seraphimblade|Talk to me]]</sup></small> 16:26, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
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:# Per other opposers and my comments below. [[User:Newyorkbrad|Newyorkbrad]] ([[User talk:Newyorkbrad|talk]]) 21:56, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
:# Some of this is correct, but the alternate wording below is a more accurate reflection of the evidence. [[User:Euryalus|Euryalus]] ([[User talk:Euryalus|talk]]) 04:51, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
:# '''[[User:LFaraone|L]]<font color="darkgreen">[[User talk:LFaraone|<span style="color:darkgreen;">Faraone]]</fontspan>]]''' 18:44, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
 
:Abstain:
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:# First choice to 6. [[User:Seraphimblade|Seraphimblade]] <small><sup>[[User talk:Seraphimblade|Talk to me]]</sup></small> 19:50, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# First choice to 6 --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 21:30, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# Lovely, thanks for doing this. [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small> 21:58, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:Courcelles|Courcelles]] 22:05, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# Second choice. <font color="#cc6600">[[User:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#cc6600;">Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs]]</fontspan>]]<sup><small>(<font color="#ff6600">[[User talk:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#ff6600;">talk]]</fontspan>]])</small></sup> 12:32, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
:# Second choice, &nbsp;[[User:Roger Davies|<span style="color:maroon; font-variant:small-caps">'''Roger Davies'''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Roger Davies|''talk'']]</sup> 13:22, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
:# Second choice. <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.118em 0.118em 0.118em;" class="texhtml"> '''[[User:Salvio giuliano|Salvio]]'''</span> [[User talk:Salvio giuliano|<sup>Let's talk about it!</sup>]] 13:38, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
:# '''[[User:LFaraone|L]]<font color="darkgreen">[[User talk:LFaraone|<span style="color:darkgreen;">Faraone]]</fontspan>]]''' 14:16, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:Timotheus Canens|T. Canens]] ([[User talk:Timotheus Canens|talk]]) 00:56, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:#'''[[User:DGG| DGG]]''' ([[User talk:DGG| talk ]]) 06:24, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
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:#[[User:Beeblebrox|Beeblebrox]] ([[User talk:Beeblebrox|talk]]) 22:45, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
:# &nbsp;[[User:Roger Davies|<span style="color:maroon; font-variant:small-caps">'''Roger Davies'''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Roger Davies|''talk'']]</sup> 23:33, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
:# <font color="#cc6600">[[User:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#cc6600;">Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs]]</fontspan>]]<sup><small>(<font color="#ff6600">[[User talk:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#ff6600;">talk]]</fontspan>]])</small></sup> 23:35, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
:# True as written, though I wish there was more there, there. All four diffs of edit warring are from the same day, a pretty clear 3RR violation, but not evidence of a prolonged edit-war, more along the lines of evidence that, in my experience, would have gotten a 24 hour block at ANEW. [[User:Courcelles|Courcelles]] 02:05, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.118em 0.118em 0.118em;" class="texhtml"> '''[[User:Salvio giuliano|Salvio]]'''</span> [[User talk:Salvio giuliano|<sup>Let's talk about it!</sup>]] 12:15, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
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:# I added three more diffs for "battleground conduct." [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small> 03:35, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:Timotheus Canens|T. Canens]] ([[User talk:Timotheus Canens|talk]]) 04:32, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
:# '''[[User:LFaraone|L]]<font color="darkgreen">[[User talk:LFaraone|<span style="color:darkgreen;">Faraone]]</fontspan>]]''' 14:17, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
:# FoF true, although what should be done as a result is somewhat independent. ''[[User:NativeForeigner|NativeForeigner]]'' <sup>[[User talk:NativeForeigner|Talk]]</sup> 01:27, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
:# Edit-warring is technically true. Battleground is not made out. Previous sanctions are a matter of record. Supporting, but only just. -- [[User:Euryalus|Euryalus]] ([[User talk:Euryalus|talk]]) 09:09, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
 
:Oppose:
:#He deserves a week block for edit warring. Nothing else, that I can see after looking over the evidence, is that serious. The battleground comment diff is for a single less-than-thought-out comment. Strangely for Wikipedia, Tarc seems to have changed. I, like Brad, do not see the [[WP:POINT]] vios that have come up in the past. I strongly suggest to Tarc that he find an area of the encyclopedia to edit that is not related to a modern-day dispute. --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 05:38, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
 
:Abstain:
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:#[[User:Beeblebrox|Beeblebrox]] ([[User talk:Beeblebrox|talk]]) 22:46, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
:# &nbsp;[[User:Roger Davies|<span style="color:maroon; font-variant:small-caps">'''Roger Davies'''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Roger Davies|''talk'']]</sup> 23:33, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
:# <font color="#cc6600">[[User:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#cc6600;">Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs]]</fontspan>]]<sup><small>(<font color="#ff6600">[[User talk:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#ff6600;">talk]]</fontspan>]])</small></sup> 23:35, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
:# It works --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 07:40, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.118em 0.118em 0.118em;" class="texhtml"> '''[[User:Salvio giuliano|Salvio]]'''</span> [[User talk:Salvio giuliano|<sup>Let's talk about it!</sup>]] 12:15, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# As corrected. [[User:Seraphimblade|Seraphimblade]] <small><sup>[[User talk:Seraphimblade|Talk to me]]</sup></small> 16:30, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
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:# [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small> 03:39, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
:# Noting for the record that I imposed the October 2012 interaction ban as an AE admin, and that I do not believe this requires recusal, per the last sentence of the first paragraph of [[WP:ARBPOL#Recusal of arbitrators]]. [[User:Timotheus Canens|T. Canens]] ([[User talk:Timotheus Canens|talk]]) 03:57, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
:# '''[[User:LFaraone|L]]<font color="darkgreen">[[User talk:LFaraone|<span style="color:darkgreen;">Faraone]]</fontspan>]]''' 14:18, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
:# '''[[User:DGG| DGG]]''' ([[User talk:DGG| talk ]]) 06:26, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:# ''[[User:NativeForeigner|NativeForeigner]]'' <sup>[[User talk:NativeForeigner|Talk]]</sup> 06:54, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
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:#[[User:Beeblebrox|Beeblebrox]] ([[User talk:Beeblebrox|talk]]) 22:54, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
:# &nbsp;[[User:Roger Davies|<span style="color:maroon; font-variant:small-caps">'''Roger Davies'''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Roger Davies|''talk'']]</sup> 23:33, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
:# <font color="#cc6600">[[User:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#cc6600;">Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs]]</fontspan>]]<sup><small>(<font color="#ff6600">[[User talk:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#ff6600;">talk]]</fontspan>]])</small></sup> 23:35, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
:#Weakly. The third diff is, IMO, the worst. And the block is part of the record here. [[User:Courcelles|Courcelles]] 03:06, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# as the proposer --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 05:39, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.118em 0.118em 0.118em;" class="texhtml"> '''[[User:Salvio giuliano|Salvio]]'''</span> [[User talk:Salvio giuliano|<sup>Let's talk about it!</sup>]] 12:15, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# The third diff, especially, is well out of line. [[User:Seraphimblade|Seraphimblade]] <small><sup>[[User talk:Seraphimblade|Talk to me]]</sup></small> 16:32, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
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:# [[User:Timotheus Canens|T. Canens]] ([[User talk:Timotheus Canens|talk]]) 03:54, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
:# Added a few more diffs and moved to support. [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small> 22:04, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
:# As amended. '''[[User:LFaraone|L]]<font color="darkgreen">[[User talk:LFaraone|<span style="color:darkgreen;">Faraone]]</fontspan>]]''' 18:36, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:# ''[[User:NativeForeigner|NativeForeigner]]'' <sup>[[User talk:NativeForeigner|Talk]]</sup> 01:27, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
:Oppose:
::: <s>Agreed with Courcelles that the third diff is worth mention, but it may be the only one. [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small> 07:39, 20 January 2015 (UTC)</s>
::: <s>As stated by [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]]. '''[[User:LFaraone|L]]<font color="darkgreen">[[User talk:LFaraone|<span style="color:darkgreen;">Faraone]]</fontspan>]]''' 14:20, 21 January 2015 (UTC)</s>
:#
 
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:#[[User:Beeblebrox|Beeblebrox]] ([[User talk:Beeblebrox|talk]]) 22:46, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
:# &nbsp;[[User:Roger Davies|<span style="color:maroon; font-variant:small-caps">'''Roger Davies'''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Roger Davies|''talk'']]</sup> 23:33, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
:# <font color="#cc6600">[[User:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#cc6600;">Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs]]</fontspan>]]<sup><small>(<font color="#ff6600">[[User talk:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#ff6600;">talk]]</fontspan>]])</small></sup> 23:35, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:Courcelles|Courcelles]] 02:36, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small> 05:33, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 07:48, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:Euryalus|Euryalus]] ([[User talk:Euryalus|talk]]) 09:44, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.118em 0.118em 0.118em;" class="texhtml"> '''[[User:Salvio giuliano|Salvio]]'''</span> [[User talk:Salvio giuliano|<sup>Let's talk about it!</sup>]] 12:15, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:Seraphimblade|Seraphimblade]] <small><sup>[[User talk:Seraphimblade|Talk to me]]</sup></small> 16:33, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:Timotheus Canens|T. Canens]] ([[User talk:Timotheus Canens|talk]]) 03:53, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
:# '''[[User:LFaraone|L]]<font color="darkgreen">[[User talk:LFaraone|<span style="color:darkgreen;">Faraone]]</fontspan>]]''' 14:24, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
:# Support for the thrust of the finding though not necessarily each and every diff. [[User:Newyorkbrad|Newyorkbrad]] ([[User talk:Newyorkbrad|talk]]) 19:43, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:# ''[[User:NativeForeigner|NativeForeigner]]'' <sup>[[User talk:NativeForeigner|Talk]]</sup> 01:27, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
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:#[[User:Beeblebrox|Beeblebrox]] ([[User talk:Beeblebrox|talk]]) 22:46, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
:# &nbsp;[[User:Roger Davies|<span style="color:maroon; font-variant:small-caps">'''Roger Davies'''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Roger Davies|''talk'']]</sup> 23:33, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
:# <font color="#cc6600">[[User:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#cc6600;">Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs]]</fontspan>]]<sup><small>(<font color="#ff6600">[[User talk:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#ff6600;">talk]]</fontspan>]])</small></sup> 23:35, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:Courcelles|Courcelles]] 03:15, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small> 07:40, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 07:48, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.118em 0.118em 0.118em;" class="texhtml"> '''[[User:Salvio giuliano|Salvio]]'''</span> [[User talk:Salvio giuliano|<sup>Let's talk about it!</sup>]] 12:15, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:Seraphimblade|Seraphimblade]] <small><sup>[[User talk:Seraphimblade|Talk to me]]</sup></small> 16:33, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:Timotheus Canens|T. Canens]] ([[User talk:Timotheus Canens|talk]]) 03:52, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:Euryalus|Euryalus]] ([[User talk:Euryalus|talk]]) 05:45, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
:# '''[[User:LFaraone|L]]<font color="darkgreen">[[User talk:LFaraone|<span style="color:darkgreen;">Faraone]]</fontspan>]]''' 18:37, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:# Support for the thrust of the finding though not necessarily each and every diff. [[User:Newyorkbrad|Newyorkbrad]] ([[User talk:Newyorkbrad|talk]]) 19:45, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:# ''[[User:NativeForeigner|NativeForeigner]]'' <sup>[[User talk:NativeForeigner|Talk]]</sup> 01:27, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
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:#[[User:Beeblebrox|Beeblebrox]] ([[User talk:Beeblebrox|talk]]) 22:47, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
:# &nbsp;[[User:Roger Davies|<span style="color:maroon; font-variant:small-caps">'''Roger Davies'''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Roger Davies|''talk'']]</sup> 23:33, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
:# <font color="#cc6600">[[User:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#cc6600;">Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs]]</fontspan>]]<sup><small>(<font color="#ff6600">[[User talk:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#ff6600;">talk]]</fontspan>]])</small></sup> 23:35, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
:# Yeah, this was a little too far. [[User:Courcelles|Courcelles]] 03:10, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# I've also added a few more diffs. [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small> 07:57, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
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:# <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.118em 0.118em 0.118em;" class="texhtml"> '''[[User:Salvio giuliano|Salvio]]'''</span> [[User talk:Salvio giuliano|<sup>Let's talk about it!</sup>]] 12:15, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:Seraphimblade|Seraphimblade]] <small><sup>[[User talk:Seraphimblade|Talk to me]]</sup></small> 16:35, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 21:31, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:Timotheus Canens|T. Canens]] ([[User talk:Timotheus Canens|talk]]) 03:51, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
:# '''[[User:LFaraone|L]]<font color="darkgreen">[[User talk:LFaraone|<span style="color:darkgreen;">Faraone]]</fontspan>]]''' 18:38, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:# ''[[User:NativeForeigner|NativeForeigner]]'' <sup>[[User talk:NativeForeigner|Talk]]</sup> 01:27, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
 
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:#[[User:Beeblebrox|Beeblebrox]] ([[User talk:Beeblebrox|talk]]) 22:48, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
:# &nbsp;[[User:Roger Davies|<span style="color:maroon; font-variant:small-caps">'''Roger Davies'''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Roger Davies|''talk'']]</sup> 23:33, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
:# <font color="#cc6600">[[User:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#cc6600;">Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs]]</fontspan>]]<sup><small>(<font color="#ff6600">[[User talk:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#ff6600;">talk]]</fontspan>]])</small></sup> 23:35, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
:# -- [[User:Euryalus|Euryalus]] ([[User talk:Euryalus|talk]]) 01:31, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:Courcelles|Courcelles]] 01:37, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# '''[[User:LFaraone|L]]<font color="darkgreen">[[User talk:LFaraone|<span style="color:darkgreen;">Faraone]]</fontspan>]]''' 02:58, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# '''[[User:DGG| DGG]]''' ([[User talk:DGG| talk ]]) 05:29, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small> 05:34, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 05:40, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.118em 0.118em 0.118em;" class="texhtml"> '''[[User:Salvio giuliano|Salvio]]'''</span> [[User talk:Salvio giuliano|<sup>Let's talk about it!</sup>]] 12:15, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:Seraphimblade|Seraphimblade]] <small><sup>[[User talk:Seraphimblade|Talk to me]]</sup></small> 16:36, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
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:#:Addid another diff. [[User:Courcelles|Courcelles]] 21:28, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
:# Seems clear enough. '''[[User:DGG| DGG]]''' ([[User talk:DGG| talk ]]) 05:29, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# this needs to be in here --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 05:41, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.118em 0.118em 0.118em;" class="texhtml"> '''[[User:Salvio giuliano|Salvio]]'''</span> [[User talk:Salvio giuliano|<sup>Let's talk about it!</sup>]] 12:15, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:Seraphimblade|Seraphimblade]] <small><sup>[[User talk:Seraphimblade|Talk to me]]</sup></small> 16:36, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
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:#: On reflection, I think the wording of the finding as well as the former caption (thanks for the edit) places too much emphasis on the account's alleged SPA status rather than the actual problems with the editing. However, I do agree there were some problems. [[User:Newyorkbrad|Newyorkbrad]] ([[User talk:Newyorkbrad|talk]]) 19:49, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:Timotheus Canens|T. Canens]] ([[User talk:Timotheus Canens|talk]]) 03:50, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
:# '''[[User:LFaraone|L]]<font color="darkgreen">[[User talk:LFaraone|<span style="color:darkgreen;">Faraone]]</fontspan>]]''' 18:38, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:# Being a SPA is not an offence. Weak support re "battleground." -- [[User:Euryalus|Euryalus]] ([[User talk:Euryalus|talk]]) 19:00, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:# Similar line of thinking as Euryalus. ''[[User:NativeForeigner|NativeForeigner]]'' <sup>[[User talk:NativeForeigner|Talk]]</sup> 01:27, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
:# Per NF and Eury. <font color="#cc6600">[[User:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#cc6600;">Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs]]</fontspan>]]<sup><small>(<font color="#ff6600">[[User talk:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#ff6600;">talk]]</fontspan>]])</small></sup> 02:19, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
:Oppose:
:#
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:# As proposer. I think the next to last diff is the worst, but the rest establish a pattern here. [[User:Courcelles|Courcelles]] 06:17, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 07:02, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small> 07:59, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# &nbsp;[[User:Roger Davies|<span style="color:maroon; font-variant:small-caps">'''Roger Davies'''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Roger Davies|''talk'']]</sup> 10:16, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
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:# [[User:Euryalus|Euryalus]] ([[User talk:Euryalus|talk]]) 20:29, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:Timotheus Canens|T. Canens]] ([[User talk:Timotheus Canens|talk]]) 03:49, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
:# '''[[User:LFaraone|L]]<font color="darkgreen">[[User talk:LFaraone|<span style="color:darkgreen;">Faraone]]</fontspan>]]''' 18:38, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:# I'm not sure a finding against this editor is essential, but I can support the thrust of the finding, though not necessarily each and every diff. [[User:Newyorkbrad|Newyorkbrad]] ([[User talk:Newyorkbrad|talk]]) 20:03, 22 January 2015 (UTC) I do note, though, that the editor voluntarily disengaged from this topic-area some time ago. [[User:Newyorkbrad|Newyorkbrad]] ([[User talk:Newyorkbrad|talk]]) 00:01, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
:#''[[User:NativeForeigner|NativeForeigner]]'' <sup>[[User talk:NativeForeigner|Talk]]</sup> 01:27, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
:# <font color="#cc6600">[[User:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#cc6600;">Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs]]</fontspan>]]<sup><small>(<font color="#ff6600">[[User talk:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#ff6600;">talk]]</fontspan>]])</small></sup> 19:53, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
:Oppose:
:#
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:# [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small> 07:22, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 07:50, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
 
:Oppose:
:# None of these are article edits. Masem is discussing aspects of policy, including the "Verifiability not truth" paradox. They're also questioning whether crude characterisation of the sides into white hats and black hats is not just polarising the issues further and making it more difficult to resolve. I guess this is what talk pages are for and, if it isn't, it ought to be. &nbsp;[[User:Roger Davies|<span style="color:maroon; font-variant:small-caps">'''Roger Davies'''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Roger Davies|''talk'']]</sup> 10:11, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.118em 0.118em 0.118em;" class="texhtml"> '''[[User:Salvio giuliano|Salvio]]'''</span> [[User talk:Salvio giuliano|<sup>Let's talk about it!</sup>]] 12:15, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# <font color="#cc6600">[[User:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#cc6600;">Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs]]</fontspan>]]<sup><small>(<font color="#ff6600">[[User talk:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#ff6600;">talk]]</fontspan>]])</small></sup> 13:54, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# There are no article edits here. Discussion of how reliable a given source is or is not is entirely in line with NPOV, and is indeed one of the ways we come to a neutral article based upon the most highly reliable references. [[User:Seraphimblade|Seraphimblade]] <small><sup>[[User talk:Seraphimblade|Talk to me]]</sup></small> 15:52, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# per Roger Davies and Seraphimblade. [[User:Euryalus|Euryalus]] ([[User talk:Euryalus|talk]]) 20:24, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
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:# Not as written. [[User:Timotheus Canens|T. Canens]] ([[User talk:Timotheus Canens|talk]]) 03:49, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
:# I frankly don't believe his participation in the topic has been helpful, but that is not a basis for an arbitration finding. [[User:Newyorkbrad|Newyorkbrad]] ([[User talk:Newyorkbrad|talk]]) 22:25, 21 January 2015 (UTC) On reflection, that comment comes off more harshly than I intended, so I withdraw it. [[User:Newyorkbrad|Newyorkbrad]] ([[User talk:Newyorkbrad|talk]]) 15:21, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
:# '''[[User:LFaraone|L]]<font color="darkgreen">[[User talk:LFaraone|<span style="color:darkgreen;">Faraone]]</fontspan>]]''' 18:38, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:# per NYBrad. '''[[User:DGG| DGG]]''' ([[User talk:DGG| talk ]]) 20:13, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:# No. ''[[User:NativeForeigner|NativeForeigner]]'' <sup>[[User talk:NativeForeigner|Talk]]</sup> 01:27, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
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:#I'd like to emphasize my personal appreciation for the admins who have been working this difficult area. [[User:Beeblebrox|Beeblebrox]] ([[User talk:Beeblebrox|talk]]) 22:56, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
:# Ditto, &nbsp;[[User:Roger Davies|<span style="color:maroon; font-variant:small-caps">'''Roger Davies'''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Roger Davies|''talk'']]</sup> 23:34, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
:# <font color="#cc6600">[[User:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#cc6600;">Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs]]</fontspan>]]<sup><small>(<font color="#ff6600">[[User talk:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#ff6600;">talk]]</fontspan>]])</small></sup> 23:56, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
:# I also echo Beeblebrox. [[User:Courcelles|Courcelles]] 02:53, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# +1 to all of the above. Administrator activity in AE is critical to the effectiveness of community and committee sanctions, and I greatly respect all those so willing. '''[[User:LFaraone|L]]<font color="darkgreen">[[User talk:LFaraone|<span style="color:darkgreen;">Faraone]]</fontspan>]]''' 03:03, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# -- [[User:Euryalus|Euryalus]] ([[User talk:Euryalus|talk]]) 03:39, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# With some doubts about the very wide scope of point b. '''[[User:DGG| DGG]]''' ([[User talk:DGG| talk ]]) 05:30, 20 January 2015 (UTC), modified 21:21 25 January (UTC)
:# [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small> 05:34, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# I agree with the comments above --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 05:42, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# Indeed with many thanks to those willing to wade into this mess. [[User:Seraphimblade|Seraphimblade]] <small><sup>[[User talk:Seraphimblade|Talk to me]]</sup></small> 16:40, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# Per all above. Subject to possible tweaking concerning the scope. [[User:Newyorkbrad|Newyorkbrad]] ([[User talk:Newyorkbrad|talk]]) 22:56, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
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:#[[User:Beeblebrox|Beeblebrox]] ([[User talk:Beeblebrox|talk]]) 19:41, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:Euryalus|Euryalus]] ([[User talk:Euryalus|talk]]) 19:43, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
:# '''[[User:LFaraone|L]]<font color="darkgreen">[[User talk:LFaraone|<span style="color:darkgreen;">Faraone]]</fontspan>]]''' 19:51, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small> 20:49, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
:# Some minor copyedits (including the reference to pending changes). Any arb may revert the copyedits in whole or part if undesired. [[User:Newyorkbrad|Newyorkbrad]] ([[User talk:Newyorkbrad|talk]]) 21:01, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
:# '''[[User:DGG| DGG]]''' ([[User talk:DGG| talk ]]) 21:23, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
:# this replaces 11 for all practical purposes --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 22:02, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
:# ''[[User:NativeForeigner|NativeForeigner]]'' <sup>[[User talk:NativeForeigner|Talk]]</sup> 05:34, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
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:# Housekeeping to reduce extensive multiple votes. Plus the authorisation for the DS needs to sync precisely with the areas covered by the topic ban. This can be done as a copy edit when we know whether this or 2.2) becomes the default provision, &nbsp;[[User:Roger Davies|<span style="color:maroon; font-variant:small-caps">'''Roger Davies'''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Roger Davies|''talk'']]</sup> 16:29, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:# Will help calm the entire general topic area if this is the scope. And, yeah, this ''should'' be the DS scope as well, keeping in mind that it intersects with ''Sexology'' and the soon-to-be-renamed ''Footnoted Quotes'' in scope, though all three cover content the other two do not. [[User:Courcelles|Courcelles]] 16:43, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:# First choice. <font color="#cc6600">[[User:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#cc6600;">Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs]]</fontspan>]]<sup><small>(<font color="#ff6600">[[User talk:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#ff6600;">talk]]</fontspan>]])</small></sup> 16:44, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small> 17:08, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:# First choice. <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.118em 0.118em 0.118em;" class="texhtml"> '''[[User:Salvio giuliano|Salvio]]'''</span> [[User talk:Salvio giuliano|<sup>Let's talk about it!</sup>]] 17:26, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:# '''[[User:LFaraone|L]]<font color="darkgreen">[[User talk:LFaraone|<span style="color:darkgreen;">Faraone]]</fontspan>]]''' 18:39, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:#[[User:Beeblebrox|Beeblebrox]] ([[User talk:Beeblebrox|talk]]) 19:35, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:# First choice. [[User:Seraphimblade|Seraphimblade]] <small><sup>[[User talk:Seraphimblade|Talk to me]]</sup></small> 20:31, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:# First choice, (though I have some doubts about the extent of "gender-related") '''[[User:DGG| DGG]]''' ([[User talk:DGG| talk ]]) 20:37, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:# only choice --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 22:16, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:Timotheus Canens|T. Canens]] ([[User talk:Timotheus Canens|talk]]) 00:18, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
:# ''[[User:NativeForeigner|NativeForeigner]]'' <sup>[[User talk:NativeForeigner|Talk]]</sup> 07:26, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
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:# Housekeeping to reduce extensive multiple votes. Plus the authorisation for the DS needs to sync precisely with the areas covered by the topic ban. This can be done as a copy edit when we know whether this or 2.1) becomes the default provision, &nbsp;[[User:Roger Davies|<span style="color:maroon; font-variant:small-caps">'''Roger Davies'''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Roger Davies|''talk'']]</sup> 16:29, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:# Second choice. <font color="#cc6600">[[User:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#cc6600;">Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs]]</fontspan>]]<sup><small>(<font color="#ff6600">[[User talk:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#ff6600;">talk]]</fontspan>]])</small></sup> 16:44, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:# Second choice. <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.118em 0.118em 0.118em;" class="texhtml"> '''[[User:Salvio giuliano|Salvio]]'''</span> [[User talk:Salvio giuliano|<sup>Let's talk about it!</sup>]] 17:26, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:# Solves this particular problem, interpreting "relating to" to include people involved in" '''[[User:DGG| DGG]]''' ([[User talk:DGG| talk ]]) 20:15, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
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:#Too narrow. [[User:Courcelles|Courcelles]] 16:43, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:# Prefer 2.1 [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small> 17:08, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:# '''[[User:LFaraone|L]]<font color="darkgreen">[[User talk:LFaraone|<span style="color:darkgreen;">Faraone]]</fontspan>]]''' 18:39, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:#[[User:Beeblebrox|Beeblebrox]] ([[User talk:Beeblebrox|talk]]) 19:36, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:# --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 22:16, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:Timotheus Canens|T. Canens]] ([[User talk:Timotheus Canens|talk]]) 00:18, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
 
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:# If anything at all is needed ... &nbsp;[[User:Roger Davies|<span style="color:maroon; font-variant:small-caps">'''Roger Davies'''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Roger Davies|''talk'']]</sup> 23:36, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
:# <font color="#cc6600">[[User:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#cc6600;">Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs]]</fontspan>]]<sup><small>(<font color="#ff6600">[[User talk:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#ff6600;">talk]]</fontspan>]])</small></sup> 23:56, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
:#I want to be clear here that I do not believe he actually did anything improper, but he did blur the line between being involved and uninvolved, and in such cases it is always best to leave enforcement actions to someone who is unambiguously uninvolved. [[User:Beeblebrox|Beeblebrox]] ([[User talk:Beeblebrox|talk]]) 00:10, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# Contingent on the passage of the relevant FoF, and with emphasis that this is a very mild reminder, not a finding of any serious misconduct. [[User:Seraphimblade|Seraphimblade]] <small><sup>[[User talk:Seraphimblade|Talk to me]]</sup></small> 16:44, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
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:#As I said in the FoF, I cannot support any arbitration finding concerning this editor over what they did in this case. [[User:Courcelles|Courcelles]] 02:52, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:#[[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small> 05:35, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# per my vote at the FoF --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 05:43, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# See my comment on the finding of fact. There is a more general, and frankly more interesting, discussion to be had somewhere about whether we are better off with admins specializing in specific sanctions-enforcement areas (who as a result may over time draw accusations of becoming embroiled or partisan in the controversy), or urging much wider admin participation in this role (with the tradeoff that admins will come to enforcement situations with less background on what has gone before). But I am not willing to single out a particular admin for a remedy (albeit a reminder only) in this case. [[User:Newyorkbrad|Newyorkbrad]] ([[User talk:Newyorkbrad|talk]]) 23:00, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:Timotheus Canens|T. Canens]] ([[User talk:Timotheus Canens|talk]]) 03:41, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:Euryalus|Euryalus]] ([[User talk:Euryalus|talk]]) 20:02, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
:# '''[[User:DGG| DGG]]''' ([[User talk:DGG| talk ]]) 06:28, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:# '''[[User:LFaraone|L]]<font color="darkgreen">[[User talk:LFaraone|<span style="color:darkgreen;">Faraone]]</fontspan>]]''' 18:40, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
 
:Abstain:
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:#: See fresh comments below, &nbsp;[[User:Roger Davies|<span style="color:maroon; font-variant:small-caps">'''Roger Davies'''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Roger Davies|''talk'']]</sup> 00:33, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
:#Kind of puzzled that arbs who supported the FoF are opposing this remedy... [[User:Beeblebrox|Beeblebrox]] ([[User talk:Beeblebrox|talk]]) 19:42, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:# <font color="#cc6600">[[User:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#cc6600;">Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs]]</fontspan>]]<sup><small>(<font color="#ff6600">[[User talk:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#ff6600;">talk]]</fontspan>]])</small></sup> 02:20, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
:# To disentangle the area. ''[[User:NativeForeigner|NativeForeigner]]'' <sup>[[User talk:NativeForeigner|Talk]]</sup> 09:01, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:Timotheus Canens|T. Canens]] ([[User talk:Timotheus Canens|talk]]) 10:00, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
:# Switching to support. [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small> 17:07, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
:# switching to support. This is sadly needed --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 21:55, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
:# '''[[User:LFaraone|L]][[User talk:LFaraone|<span style="color:darkgreen;">Faraone</span>]]''' 20:48, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
 
:Oppose:
::: <s>[[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small> 17:09, 22 January 2015 (UTC)</s>
:#:: <s>'''[[User:LFaraone|L]]<font color="darkgreen">[[User talk:LFaraone|<span style="color:darkgreen;">Faraone]]</fontspan>]]''' 18:42, 22 January 2015 (UTC)</s>
:# Insufficient evidence to support this remedy, per my comments on the Finding. I'd back an admonishment, but conduct issues here will otherwise be addressed via the inevitable application of Discretionary Sanctions. -- [[User:Euryalus|Euryalus]] ([[User talk:Euryalus|talk]]) 22:08, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:# I don't see sufficient evidence for this. Any future incidents can be dealt with at AE. [[User:Seraphimblade|Seraphimblade]] <small><sup>[[User talk:Seraphimblade|Talk to me]]</sup></small> 04:54, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
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::<s> I can't decided and I will leave it to the rest of the committee --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 20:32, 23 January 2015 (UTC)</s>
:# [[User:Courcelles|Courcelles]] 04:45, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
:# '''[[User:DGG| DGG]]''' ([[User talk:DGG| talk ]]) 05:56, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
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:# [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small> 15:42, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
:# Second choice. <font color="#cc6600">[[User:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#cc6600;">Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs]]</fontspan>]]<sup><small>(<font color="#ff6600">[[User talk:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#ff6600;">talk]]</fontspan>]])</small></sup> 15:50, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
:# Second choice, &nbsp;[[User:Roger Davies|<span style="color:maroon; font-variant:small-caps">'''Roger Davies'''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Roger Davies|''talk'']]</sup> 16:03, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
:# Iff the topic ban does not pass. Still thinking about that one. [[User:Timotheus Canens|T. Canens]] ([[User talk:Timotheus Canens|talk]]) 17:10, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
:# '''[[User:DGG| DGG]]''' ([[User talk:DGG| talk ]]) 18:31, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
:# --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 20:33, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:Seraphimblade|Seraphimblade]] <small><sup>[[User talk:Seraphimblade|Talk to me]]</sup></small> 04:54, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:Euryalus|Euryalus]] ([[User talk:Euryalus|talk]]) 04:48, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
:# <s>'''[[User:LFaraone|L]][[User talk:LFaraone|<fontspan colorstyle="color:darkgreen;">Faraone</span>]]''' 19:53, 25 January 2015 (UTC)</s> Second choice. '''[[User:LFaraone|L]][[User talk:LFaraone|<span style="color:darkgreen;">Faraone]]</fontspan>]]''' 1920:5348, 2528 January 2015 (UTC)
 
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:# <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.118em 0.118em 0.118em;" class="texhtml"> '''[[User:Salvio giuliano|Salvio]]'''</span> [[User talk:Salvio giuliano|<sup>Let's talk about it!</sup>]] 17:26, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:# Equal first choice, &nbsp;[[User:Roger Davies|<span style="color:maroon; font-variant:small-caps">'''Roger Davies'''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Roger Davies|''talk'']]</sup> 18:21, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:# '''[[User:LFaraone|L]]<font color="darkgreen">[[User talk:LFaraone|<span style="color:darkgreen;">Faraone]]</fontspan>]]''' 18:42, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:#Distant second choice. [[User:Beeblebrox|Beeblebrox]] ([[User talk:Beeblebrox|talk]]) 19:44, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:# per Courcelles '''[[User:DGG| DGG]]''' ([[User talk:DGG| talk ]]) 20:19, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:# In a package with 5.4 and 5.5. --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 22:16, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:#:Clerks, please break the slate and consider each vote individually --[[User:In actu|In actu (Guerillero)]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<span style="color:green;">My Talk</span>]] 20:06, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
:# Second choice. <font color="#cc6600">[[User:David Fuchs|Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs]]</font><sup><small>(<font color="#ff6600">[[User talk:David Fuchs|talk]]</font>)</small></sup> 02:21, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
:# Second choice. [[User:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#cc6600;">Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs</span>]]<sup><small>([[User talk:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#ff6600;">talk</span>]])</small></sup> 02:21, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:Euryalus|Euryalus]] ([[User talk:Euryalus|talk]]) 05:14, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
:# ''[[User:NativeForeigner|NativeForeigner]]'' <sup>[[User talk:NativeForeigner|Talk]]</sup> 07:26, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
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::: <s>Will prioritise later if need be, &nbsp;[[User:Roger Davies|<span style="color:maroon; font-variant:small-caps">'''Roger Davies'''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Roger Davies|''talk'']]</sup> 23:38, 19 January 2015 (UTC)</s>
:# --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 07:53, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# My preferred solution, though I admit it will not pass. [[User:Courcelles|Courcelles]] 22:08, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.118em 0.118em 0.118em;" class="texhtml"> '''[[User:Salvio giuliano|Salvio]]'''</span> [[User talk:Salvio giuliano|<sup>Let's talk about it!</sup>]] 10:46, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
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:#I don't like this sort of sanction as it seems like an admission that this person is disruptive, and that we don't expect it to stop, but we will do anything we can to avoid just banning them. [[User:Beeblebrox|Beeblebrox]] ([[User talk:Beeblebrox|talk]]) 23:09, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
:# My thinking mirrors Beeblebrox's here. <font color="#cc6600">[[User:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#cc6600;">Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs]]</fontspan>]]<sup><small>(<font color="#ff6600">[[User talk:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#ff6600;">talk]]</fontspan>]])</small></sup> 23:56, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
:# Too vague & imprecise '''[[User:DGG| DGG]]''' ([[User talk:DGG| talk ]]) 05:42, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# per Beeblebrox. -- [[User:Euryalus|Euryalus]] ([[User talk:Euryalus|talk]]) 10:39, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
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:# Switched from support, &nbsp;[[User:Roger Davies|<span style="color:maroon; font-variant:small-caps">'''Roger Davies'''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Roger Davies|''talk'']]</sup> 11:31, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
:# Per Beeblebrox. [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small> 22:11, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
:# '''[[User:LFaraone|L]]<font color="darkgreen">[[User talk:LFaraone|<span style="color:darkgreen;">Faraone]]</fontspan>]]''' 18:44, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:# A bit of a strange way to go about it. I have no problem with the concept, but for this particular use and this particular case it does feel like we are doing anything to stay short of a siteban. ''[[User:NativeForeigner|NativeForeigner]]'' <sup>[[User talk:NativeForeigner|Talk]]</sup> 07:26, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
:# Per other opposers, though I would have favored this over a siteban if things came to that. Ryulong should, however, ask himself why this is even being considered. "Everyone trolls me on all topics all of the time" is not the answer. [[User:Newyorkbrad|Newyorkbrad]] ([[User talk:Newyorkbrad|talk]]) 22:59, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
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:# Will prioritise later if need be, &nbsp;[[User:Roger Davies|<span style="color:maroon; font-variant:small-caps">'''Roger Davies'''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Roger Davies|''talk'']]</sup> 23:38, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
:#: Equal first choice, &nbsp;[[User:Roger Davies|<span style="color:maroon; font-variant:small-caps">'''Roger Davies'''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Roger Davies|''talk'']]</sup> 11:31, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
:# First choice. <font color="#cc6600">[[User:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#cc6600;">Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs]]</fontspan>]]<sup><small>(<font color="#ff6600">[[User talk:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#ff6600;">talk]]</fontspan>]])</small></sup> 23:56, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
:#:'''Last Choice''' I would love to not do this but I don't think anything else has a snowball's chance of passing --[[User:In actu|In actu (Guerillero)]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 01:15, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
:#::Removing in line with the fact that other things are passing. I don't want this to skate by under the radar --[[User:In actu|In actu (Guerillero)]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<span style="color:green;">My Talk</span>]] 20:23, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
:# First choice. <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.118em 0.118em 0.118em;" class="texhtml"> '''[[User:Salvio giuliano|Salvio]]'''</span> [[User talk:Salvio giuliano|<sup>Let's talk about it!</sup>]] 10:46, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
:# Last choice of presented options (Right now). I think if we're dealing with this on a purely pragmatic level this might be best for the project, but I do think that it would only be fair to attempt to apply some of the alternatives first, although I'm a bit concerned as to their potential efficacy, given the history. ''[[User:NativeForeigner|NativeForeigner]]'' <sup>[[User talk:NativeForeigner|Talk]]</sup> 07:26, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
:#:Nonetheless, support. ''[[User:NativeForeigner|NativeForeigner]]'' <sup>[[User talk:NativeForeigner|Talk]]</sup> 19:48, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
:#:By which I mean a normal support, albeit with some mixed thoughts. ''[[User:NativeForeigner|NativeForeigner]]'' <sup>[[User talk:NativeForeigner|Talk]]</sup> 20:36, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:Timotheus Canens|T. Canens]] ([[User talk:Timotheus Canens|talk]]) 17:12, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
:#:This is a support iff {{u|Guerillero}} clarifies, in an edit made after 19:44, 28 January 2015 (UTC), whether his supports for 5.1, 5.4 and 5.5 are conditional on all three passing. Otherwise this is an oppose. [[User:Timotheus Canens|T. Canens]] ([[User talk:Timotheus Canens|talk]]) 19:44, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
:#:::<s>Indented because I believe as Guerillero broke his slate, this goes to oppose. Doing this for clarity's sake. Will a clerk please check for me? ''[[User:NativeForeigner|NativeForeigner]]'' <sup>[[User talk:NativeForeigner|Talk]]</sup> 20:35, 28 January 2015 (UTC)</s>
:#If the 1RR does not pass, then first choice of what's left. Still oppose if the 1RR somehow moves back to passing. The more I look at the history here, the more I am sure the problems are far wider than just this single topic, as I see it, Ryulong doesn't seem able to "hold his fire", and not get into edit wars. This also, per his block log, is independent of topic areas. Without very, very strong measures to stop them from continuing to edit war throughout the encyclopedia, I don't think we have any other choice. Also, even to this morning, I still see evidence of ongoing battleground mentality. I really, really don't like this, but I can't support their staying on the project without a strict 1RR and a topic ban at this point. And only one of those is going to pass. [[User:Courcelles|Courcelles]] 22:02, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
:# I was really on the fence on this one, and I'm really unimpressed with Ryulong continuing the behavior we previously highlighted as problematic. [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small> 02:55, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
:# Switch from oppose. Evidence and case/block history suggests that this user will be a continued source of sanctionable behaviour regardless of topic area. '''[[User:LFaraone|L]][[User talk:LFaraone|<span style="color:darkgreen;">Faraone</span>]]''' 22:06, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
 
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:#*Neither will I. Need to contemplate the rest of it, but this is not the solution. [[User:Courcelles|Courcelles]] 03:48, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:#* <s>Excessive in the circumstances. I'm open to some alternative. '''[[User:DGG| DGG]]''' ([[User talk:DGG| talk ]]) 05:33, 20 January 2015 (UTC) </s>
:#*I would like to try something else. --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 07:53, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:#: <s>I've decided to oppose this, albeit weakly. I'm hoping that the other remedies regarding Ryulong will end this situation, but I don't quite think a siteban is the best course forward here. [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small> 02:32, 23 January 2015 (UTC)</s>
:# -- [[User:Euryalus|Euryalus]] ([[User talk:Euryalus|talk]]) 05:13, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
:# Given the circumstances here, I don't think this is called for. For clarity's sake, though, this is very likely the absolute last chance. [[User:Seraphimblade|Seraphimblade]] <small><sup>[[User talk:Seraphimblade|Talk to me]]</sup></small> 01:14, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
:#: <s>'''[[User:LFaraone|L]]<font color="darkgreen">[[User talk:LFaraone|<span style="color:darkgreen;">Faraone]]</fontspan>]]''' 18:45, 24 January 2015 (UTC)</s>
:# Finally decided, on the basis of arguments submitted to arb com. '''[[User:DGG| DGG]]''' ([[User talk:DGG| talk ]]) 19:13, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
 
:Abstain:
:#: <s>I find my view on this changing from day to day, so it would be fairer if I abstained. '''[[User:DGG| DGG]]''' ([[User talk:DGG| talk ]]) 20:47, 22 January 2015 (UTC) </s>
 
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:# As proposer. Wordsmith as needed (and I suspect it needs some), but this is what I think is needed here. A last and final chance to conduct themselves appropriately. (Note that this makes sense if and only if the ban fails. So, oppose if the ban passes.) [[User:Courcelles|Courcelles]] 22:20, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# --[[User:In actu|In actu (Guerillero)]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 23:51, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:#: In a package with 5.1 and 5.5. --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 22:16, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:#::Clerks, please break the slate and consider each vote individually --[[User:In actu|In actu (Guerillero)]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<span style="color:green;">My Talk</span>]] 20:06, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
:# In addition to any other sanctions, but not in place of them. [[User:Seraphimblade|Seraphimblade]] <small><sup>[[User talk:Seraphimblade|Talk to me]]</sup></small> 03:30, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
:# <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.118em 0.118em 0.118em;" class="texhtml"> '''[[User:Salvio giuliano|Salvio]]'''</span> [[User talk:Salvio giuliano|<sup>Let's talk about it!</sup>]] 10:46, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
:# Can't hurt, but definitely not an alternative to other sanctions (unless, of course, the siteban passes). [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small> 22:12, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
:# In addition to the other sanctions, if he is not immediately banned. '''[[User:DGG| DGG]]''' ([[User talk:DGG| talk ]]) 06:33, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:# '''[[User:LFaraone|L]]<font color="darkgreen">[[User talk:LFaraone|<span style="color:darkgreen;">Faraone]]</fontspan>]]''' 18:46, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:# Support alongside other sanctions. <font color="#cc6600">[[User:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#cc6600;">Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs]]</fontspan>]]<sup><small>(<font color="#ff6600">[[User talk:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#ff6600;">talk]]</fontspan>]])</small></sup> 02:23, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
:# Iff the ban does not pass. [[User:Timotheus Canens|T. Canens]] ([[User talk:Timotheus Canens|talk]]) 17:12, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
 
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:# In conjunction with the other sanctions, if the site ban does not pass. '''[[User:DGG| DGG]]''' ([[User talk:DGG| talk ]]) 06:31, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:#: <s> If the site ban does not pass & in addition to all other restrictions. <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.118em 0.118em 0.118em;" class="texhtml"> '''[[User:Salvio giuliano|Salvio]]'''</span> [[User talk:Salvio giuliano|<sup>Let's talk about it!</sup>]] 17:26, 22 January 2015 (UTC)</s>
:# '''[[User:LFaraone|L]]<font color="darkgreen">[[User talk:LFaraone|<span style="color:darkgreen;">Faraone]]</fontspan>]]''' 18:50, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:# In conjunction with any other sanctions. Ryulong has a long history of disruptively edit warring and that must stop. [[User:Seraphimblade|Seraphimblade]] <small><sup>[[User talk:Seraphimblade|Talk to me]]</sup></small> 20:34, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:# In a package with 5.1 and 5.4. --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 22:16, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:#:Clerks, please break the slate and consider each vote individually --[[User:In actu|In actu (Guerillero)]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<span style="color:green;">My Talk</span>]] 20:06, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
:# Edit warring has definitely been a major issue here, so perhaps this will calm things. I agree with Beeblebrox that edit warring was not the only issue, but between this and the topic ban, I'm hoping we have a workable solution. [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small> 02:29, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
:# Support alongside other sanctions. <font color="#cc6600">[[User:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#cc6600;">Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs]]</fontspan>]]<sup><small>(<font color="#ff6600">[[User talk:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#ff6600;">talk]]</fontspan>]])</small></sup> 02:38, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
 
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:#: <s> '''[[User:DGG| DGG]]''' ([[User talk:DGG| talk ]]) 20:22, 22 January 2015 (UTC) </s>
:# The battleground behavior here was repeated and appears deliberate. This wasn't one intemperate comment but a pattern. [[User:Seraphimblade|Seraphimblade]] <small><sup>[[User talk:Seraphimblade|Talk to me]]</sup></small> 20:36, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:#* --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 22:16, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:Timotheus Canens|T. Canens]] ([[User talk:Timotheus Canens|talk]]) 01:49, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
:# <font color="#cc6600">[[User:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#cc6600;">Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs]]</fontspan>]]<sup><small>(<font color="#ff6600">[[User talk:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#ff6600;">talk]]</fontspan>]])</small></sup> 02:41, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
 
:Oppose:
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:#: Reaffirming my strong opposition to this remedy. [[User:Newyorkbrad|Newyorkbrad]] ([[User talk:Newyorkbrad|talk]]) 17:35, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
:#: <s>They're fairly far gone. If they return with the same problematic behavior bring them to ARCA, or apply the passed sanctions, but I don't see a reason to sanction this user, although I will note that their behavior ''was'' poor. ''[[User:NativeForeigner|NativeForeigner]]'' <sup>[[User talk:NativeForeigner|Talk]]</sup> 07:26, 23 January 2015 (UTC)</s>
:# on further reflection. If they become problematic DS will fix it --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 19:53, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
:# '''[[User:LFaraone|L]]<font color="darkgreen">[[User talk:LFaraone|<span style="color:darkgreen;">Faraone]]</fontspan>]]''' 20:08, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
:# For balance, considering the nature of her infractions. <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.118em 0.118em 0.118em;" class="texhtml"> '''[[User:Salvio giuliano|Salvio]]'''</span> [[User talk:Salvio giuliano|<sup>Let's talk about it!</sup>]] 17:04, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
:Abstain:
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:# [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small> 08:06, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:#: Second choice to topic bans; I don't think that this and a topic ban are necessary. [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small> 22:16, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[iff]] the topic ban fails --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 21:34, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:Euryalus|Euryalus]] ([[User talk:Euryalus|talk]]) 00:57, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
:#[[User:Beeblebrox|Beeblebrox]] ([[User talk:Beeblebrox|talk]]) 19:53, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:# Extremely weak support. Their behavior probably did warrant it, although the benefit of sanctioning them after they left is limited. ''[[User:NativeForeigner|NativeForeigner]]'' <sup>[[User talk:NativeForeigner|Talk]]</sup> 07:26, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
:# <s>Would support if 6.1 were not currently passing, so vacuous support.</s> '''[[User:LFaraone|L]]<font color="darkgreen">[[User talk:LFaraone|<span style="color:darkgreen;">Faraone]]</fontspan>]]''' 18:47, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
:# Second choice. <font color="#cc6600">[[User:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#cc6600;">Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs]]</fontspan>]]<sup><small>(<font color="#ff6600">[[User talk:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#ff6600;">talk]]</fontspan>]])</small></sup> 19:54, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
:# Iff the topic ban does not pass. [[User:Timotheus Canens|T. Canens]] ([[User talk:Timotheus Canens|talk]]) 09:52, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
:# Per T. Canens, &nbsp;[[User:Roger Davies|<span style="color:maroon; font-variant:small-caps">'''Roger Davies'''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Roger Davies|''talk'']]</sup> 18:16, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
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:#He may not have been the worst actor in this specific situation, but he clearly failed to get the message from four prior arbcom findings. [[User:Beeblebrox|Beeblebrox]] ([[User talk:Beeblebrox|talk]]) 23:21, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
:# <font color="#cc6600">[[User:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#cc6600;">Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs]]</fontspan>]]<sup><small>(<font color="#ff6600">[[User talk:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#ff6600;">talk]]</fontspan>]])</small></sup> 23:56, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
 
:Oppose:
:# As I say above on the proposed finding, Tarc has behaved horrendously in past disputes. However, he has done nothing sitebanworthy in this one. [[User:Newyorkbrad|Newyorkbrad]] ([[User talk:Newyorkbrad|talk]]) 03:43, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# Per my comments on the FoF. --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 05:55, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.118em 0.118em 0.118em;" class="texhtml"> '''[[User:Salvio giuliano|Salvio]]'''</span> [[User talk:Salvio giuliano|<sup>Let's talk about it!</sup>]] 10:46, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
:# &nbsp;[[User:Roger Davies|<span style="color:maroon; font-variant:small-caps">'''Roger Davies'''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Roger Davies|''talk'']]</sup> 13:28, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
:# No, I think this is one of those cases where conduct has improved from prior appearances before the Committee. This development should continue. [[User:Courcelles|Courcelles]] 20:53, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
:# Per NYB. [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small> 22:17, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
:# '''[[User:LFaraone|L]]<font color="darkgreen">[[User talk:LFaraone|<span style="color:darkgreen;">Faraone]]</fontspan>]]''' 18:49, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:# Tarc's behavior here wasn't perfect, but it was better, and notably the deliberately disruptive point making was not at issue here. I'm willing to hope that continues. [[User:Seraphimblade|Seraphimblade]] <small><sup>[[User talk:Seraphimblade|Talk to me]]</sup></small> 20:38, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:# Not at the siteban threshold. ''[[User:NativeForeigner|NativeForeigner]]'' <sup>[[User talk:NativeForeigner|Talk]]</sup> 07:26, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
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:# <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.118em 0.118em 0.118em;" class="texhtml"> '''[[User:Salvio giuliano|Salvio]]'''</span> [[User talk:Salvio giuliano|<sup>Let's talk about it!</sup>]] 17:26, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:# Equal first choice, &nbsp;[[User:Roger Davies|<span style="color:maroon; font-variant:small-caps">'''Roger Davies'''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Roger Davies|''talk'']]</sup> 18:21, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:# '''[[User:LFaraone|L]]<font color="darkgreen">[[User talk:LFaraone|<span style="color:darkgreen;">Faraone]]</fontspan>]]''' 18:49, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:#second choice [[User:Beeblebrox|Beeblebrox]] ([[User talk:Beeblebrox|talk]]) 19:54, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:#In a package with 7.3 and 7.4 --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 22:16, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:#:Clerks, please break the slate and consider each vote individually --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 00:00, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
:# Second choice. <font color="#cc6600">[[User:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#cc6600;">Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs]]</fontspan>]]<sup><small>(<font color="#ff6600">[[User talk:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#ff6600;">talk]]</fontspan>]])</small></sup> 04:07, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
:# Support, no preference. ''[[User:NativeForeigner|NativeForeigner]]'' <sup>[[User talk:NativeForeigner|Talk]]</sup> 07:26, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:Timotheus Canens|T. Canens]] ([[User talk:Timotheus Canens|talk]]) 17:19, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
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:# --[[User:In actu|In actu (Guerillero)]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 01:15, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
:#:In a package with 7.2 and 7.4 --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 22:16, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:#:Clerks, please break the slate and consider each vote individually --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 00:00, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
:# In addition to, not in lieu of, any other remedy (excepting 6.1). [[User:Seraphimblade|Seraphimblade]] <small><sup>[[User talk:Seraphimblade|Talk to me]]</sup></small> 03:33, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
:# <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.118em 0.118em 0.118em;" class="texhtml"> '''[[User:Salvio giuliano|Salvio]]'''</span> [[User talk:Salvio giuliano|<sup>Let's talk about it!</sup>]] 10:46, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
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:#: Equal first choice, &nbsp;[[User:Roger Davies|<span style="color:maroon; font-variant:small-caps">'''Roger Davies'''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Roger Davies|''talk'']]</sup> 18:56, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:# Per Seraphimblade. [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small> 22:19, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
:# '''[[User:LFaraone|L]]<font color="darkgreen">[[User talk:LFaraone|<span style="color:darkgreen;">Faraone]]</fontspan>]]''' 18:50, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:Courcelles|Courcelles]] 19:40, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:# Third choice. <font color="#cc6600">[[User:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#cc6600;">Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs]]</fontspan>]]<sup><small>(<font color="#ff6600">[[User talk:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#ff6600;">talk]]</fontspan>]])</small></sup> 04:07, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
:# In addition, not as alternative. [[User:Timotheus Canens|T. Canens]] ([[User talk:Timotheus Canens|talk]]) 17:19, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
 
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:# As proposer. Not sure what the specific hour level should be here, 24, 48, or 72, but I'm fine with any of those. I think there is a little too much of a tendency to revert on Tarc's part, that needs to be fixed. [[User:Courcelles|Courcelles]] 19:35, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:#In a package with 7.3 and 7.2 --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 22:16, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:#:Clerks, please break the slate and consider each vote individually --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 00:00, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
:# In addition to other remedies. [[User:Seraphimblade|Seraphimblade]] <small><sup>[[User talk:Seraphimblade|Talk to me]]</sup></small> 03:42, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
:# <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.118em 0.118em 0.118em;" class="texhtml"> '''[[User:Salvio giuliano|Salvio]]'''</span> [[User talk:Salvio giuliano|<sup>Let's talk about it!</sup>]] 19:06, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
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:#Again, if edit warring were the only issue this would be great. [[User:Beeblebrox|Beeblebrox]] ([[User talk:Beeblebrox|talk]]) 19:59, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:# <font color="#cc6600">[[User:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#cc6600;">Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs]]</fontspan>]]<sup><small>(<font color="#ff6600">[[User talk:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#ff6600;">talk]]</fontspan>]])</small></sup> 04:07, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:Euryalus|Euryalus]] ([[User talk:Euryalus|talk]]) 09:27, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
:# &nbsp;[[User:Roger Davies|<span style="color:maroon; font-variant:small-caps">'''Roger Davies'''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Roger Davies|''talk'']]</sup> 09:31, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
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:# '''[[User:DGG| DGG]]''' ([[User talk:DGG| talk ]]) 20:23, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:Timotheus Canens|T. Canens]] ([[User talk:Timotheus Canens|talk]]) 05:18, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
:# '''[[User:LFaraone|L]]<font color="darkgreen">[[User talk:LFaraone|<span style="color:darkgreen;">Faraone]]</fontspan>]]''' 18:48, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
 
:Comments:
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:# &nbsp;[[User:Roger Davies|<span style="color:maroon; font-variant:small-caps">'''Roger Davies'''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Roger Davies|''talk'']]</sup> 23:39, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
:#: Equal first choice, &nbsp;[[User:Roger Davies|<span style="color:maroon; font-variant:small-caps">'''Roger Davies'''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Roger Davies|''talk'']]</sup> 18:21, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:# <font color="#cc6600">[[User:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#cc6600;">Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs]]</fontspan>]]<sup><small>(<font color="#ff6600">[[User talk:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#ff6600;">talk]]</fontspan>]])</small></sup> 23:56, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
:#I find myself wishing I could find some way not to support this. I kind of like TDA, but like other parties in this case, they appear not to have gotten the message from previous lesser sanctions so this would appear to be the only remaining option likely to have the desired effect. [[User:Beeblebrox|Beeblebrox]] ([[User talk:Beeblebrox|talk]]) 00:14, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# I don't like this but I can't see another option --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 07:55, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:#:Last choice --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 22:16, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:# There are only so many topic bans that can be placed before we have to question whether someone ought to be participating here at all. [[User:Seraphimblade|Seraphimblade]] <small><sup>[[User talk:Seraphimblade|Talk to me]]</sup></small> 20:19, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:#: Last choice given the new alternatives provided. [[User:Seraphimblade|Seraphimblade]] <small><sup>[[User talk:Seraphimblade|Talk to me]]</sup></small> 17:57, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
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:#: Second choice to all of 8.2, 8.3, and 8.4 [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small> 02:37, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:Timotheus Canens|T. Canens]] ([[User talk:Timotheus Canens|talk]]) 17:22, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
:# Last choice. '''[[User:LFaraone|L]]<font color="darkgreen">[[User talk:LFaraone|<span style="color:darkgreen;">Faraone]]</fontspan>]]''' 18:49, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
:#
 
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:# <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.118em 0.118em 0.118em;" class="texhtml"> '''[[User:Salvio giuliano|Salvio]]'''</span> [[User talk:Salvio giuliano|<sup>Let's talk about it!</sup>]] 17:26, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:# Equal first choice, &nbsp;[[User:Roger Davies|<span style="color:maroon; font-variant:small-caps">'''Roger Davies'''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Roger Davies|''talk'']]</sup> 18:21, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:# '''[[User:LFaraone|L]]<font color="darkgreen">[[User talk:LFaraone|<span style="color:darkgreen;">Faraone]]</fontspan>]]''' 18:52, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:#Second choice as this just seems like "kicking the can down the road" [[User:Beeblebrox|Beeblebrox]] ([[User talk:Beeblebrox|talk]]) 20:00, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:Newyorkbrad|Newyorkbrad]] ([[User talk:Newyorkbrad|talk]]) 20:09, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:# If the site ban does not pass '''[[User:DGG| DGG]]''' ([[User talk:DGG| talk ]]) 20:25, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:#In a package with 8.3 and 8.4 --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 22:16, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:#:Clerks, please break the slate and consider each vote individually --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 00:04, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
:# Second choice in a package with 8.3 and 8.4. -- [[User:Euryalus|Euryalus]] ([[User talk:Euryalus|talk]]) 04:42, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
:# ''[[User:NativeForeigner|NativeForeigner]]'' <sup>[[User talk:NativeForeigner|Talk]]</sup> 07:26, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
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:# As proposer. Not sure what the specific hour level should be here, 24, 48, or 72, but I'm fine with any of those. [[User:Courcelles|Courcelles]] 19:31, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:# If the site ban does not pass '''[[User:DGG| DGG]]''' ([[User talk:DGG| talk ]]) 20:34, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:#In a package with 8.2 and 8.4 --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 22:16, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:#:Clerks, please break the slate and consider each vote individually --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 00:04, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small> 02:35, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
:#Second choice in a package with 8.2 and 8.4. -- [[User:Euryalus|Euryalus]] ([[User talk:Euryalus|talk]]) 04:42, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
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:# In conjunction with 8.2 and 8.4 provided they pass. [[User:Seraphimblade|Seraphimblade]] <small><sup>[[User talk:Seraphimblade|Talk to me]]</sup></small> 17:59, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
:# This is more restrictive than necessary in my view, but I can support it as part of an alternative to a siteban. [[User:Newyorkbrad|Newyorkbrad]] ([[User talk:Newyorkbrad|talk]]) 15:51, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
:# '''[[User:LFaraone|L]]<font color="darkgreen">[[User talk:LFaraone|<span style="color:darkgreen;">Faraone]]</fontspan>]]''' 18:49, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
:#: <s> <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.118em 0.118em 0.118em;" class="texhtml"> '''[[User:Salvio giuliano|Salvio]]'''</span> [[User talk:Salvio giuliano|<sup>Let's talk about it!</sup>]] 19:08, 24 January 2015 (UTC) </s>
:# ''[[User:NativeForeigner|NativeForeigner]]'' <sup>[[User talk:NativeForeigner|Talk]]</sup> 05:36, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
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:# This needs some (major?) wordsmithing. I've never liked the idea of site-banning TDA, and I think the combination of the three proposals would solve the problems, even though they ''are'' strict, even combined they are a lot less so than a site ban, and I think he can still be a productive contributor under them. [[User:Courcelles|Courcelles]] 19:58, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:# This is more restrictive than necessary in my view, but I can support it as part of an alternative to a siteban. [[User:Newyorkbrad|Newyorkbrad]] ([[User talk:Newyorkbrad|talk]]) 20:11, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:#In a package with 8.2 and 8.4 --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 22:16, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:#:Clerks, please break the slate and consider each vote individually --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 00:04, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small> 02:35, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
:#Second choice in a package with 8.2 and 8.3. -- [[User:Euryalus|Euryalus]] ([[User talk:Euryalus|talk]]) 04:42, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
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:# Iff the site ban does not pass. [[User:Timotheus Canens|T. Canens]] ([[User talk:Timotheus Canens|talk]]) 17:22, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
:# With 8.2 and 8.3, if they pass. [[User:Seraphimblade|Seraphimblade]] <small><sup>[[User talk:Seraphimblade|Talk to me]]</sup></small> 17:59, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
:# '''[[User:LFaraone|L]]<font color="darkgreen">[[User talk:LFaraone|<span style="color:darkgreen;">Faraone]]</fontspan>]]''' 18:49, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
:# <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.118em 0.118em 0.118em;" class="texhtml"> '''[[User:Salvio giuliano|Salvio]]'''</span> [[User talk:Salvio giuliano|<sup>Let's talk about it!</sup>]] 19:08, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
 
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:# In a package with the others --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 23:00, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:#:Clerks, please break the slate and consider each vote individually --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 00:04, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
:# Sure, though the other sanctions seem like they'd be warning enough. [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small> 02:36, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
:# While GorillaWarfare has a point, the point of this is a remedy is the formal notice we can (and reserve the right to) ban by simple motion. [[User:Courcelles|Courcelles]] 02:37, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
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:# <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.118em 0.118em 0.118em;" class="texhtml"> '''[[User:Salvio giuliano|Salvio]]'''</span> [[User talk:Salvio giuliano|<sup>Let's talk about it!</sup>]] 19:08, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
:# Per T. Canens, &nbsp;[[User:Roger Davies|<span style="color:maroon; font-variant:small-caps">'''Roger Davies'''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Roger Davies|''talk'']]</sup> 15:03, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
:# '''[[User:LFaraone|L]]<font color="darkgreen">[[User talk:LFaraone|<span style="color:darkgreen;">Faraone]]</fontspan>]]''' 15:42, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
:# '''[[User:DGG| DGG]]''' ([[User talk:DGG| talk ]]) 06:02, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
 
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:# The warning seems unnecessary given the above, and the suggestion is too open-ended. -- [[User:Euryalus|Euryalus]] ([[User talk:Euryalus|talk]]) 04:42, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
:#Per my previously made comments on the value of warning users who have already been subject to numerous sanctions and warnings. [[User:Beeblebrox|Beeblebrox]] ([[User talk:Beeblebrox|talk]]) 19:02, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
:# Unnecessary and redundant with passing remedies above. <font color="#cc6600">[[User:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#cc6600;">Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs]]</fontspan>]]<sup><small>(<font color="#ff6600">[[User talk:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#ff6600;">talk]]</fontspan>]])</small></sup> 19:56, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
 
:Abstain:
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:#I sincerely hope this will be taken seriously and no further action will be required with regard to this user. [[User:Beeblebrox|Beeblebrox]] ([[User talk:Beeblebrox|talk]]) 23:29, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
:# &nbsp;[[User:Roger Davies|<span style="color:maroon; font-variant:small-caps">'''Roger Davies'''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Roger Davies|''talk'']]</sup> 23:39, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
:# <font color="#cc6600">[[User:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#cc6600;">Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs]]</fontspan>]]<sup><small>(<font color="#ff6600">[[User talk:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#ff6600;">talk]]</fontspan>]])</small></sup> 23:56, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
:# '''[[User:DGG| DGG]]''' ([[User talk:DGG| talk ]]) 05:35, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# as the proposer --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 05:53, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# Misconduct wasn't as severe or repeated as many others, hopefully this will suffice. [[User:Seraphimblade|Seraphimblade]] <small><sup>[[User talk:Seraphimblade|Talk to me]]</sup></small> 20:15, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# On reconsideration, moving to support. -- [[User:Euryalus|Euryalus]] ([[User talk:Euryalus|talk]]) 01:29, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
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:::: <s>On balance I don't think it rises even to admonition level. A simple "don't do it again" suffices. -- [[User:Euryalus|Euryalus]] ([[User talk:Euryalus|talk]]) 23:09, 20 January 2015 (UTC)</s>
:#I think this is more worthy of a formal reminder than the stronger admonishment. [[User:Courcelles|Courcelles]] 23:12, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:#:Do you think we need an 8.1? --[[User:In actu|In actu (Guerillero)]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 23:53, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# Though there was poor behavior here, I don't think a formal admonishment is needed. [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small> 22:22, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
:# '''[[User:LFaraone|L]]<font color="darkgreen">[[User talk:LFaraone|<span style="color:darkgreen;">Faraone]]</fontspan>]]''' 18:53, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:Newyorkbrad|Newyorkbrad]] ([[User talk:Newyorkbrad|talk]]) 13:54, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
 
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:# <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.118em 0.118em 0.118em;" class="texhtml"> '''[[User:Salvio giuliano|Salvio]]'''</span> [[User talk:Salvio giuliano|<sup>Let's talk about it!</sup>]] 17:26, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:# &nbsp;[[User:Roger Davies|<span style="color:maroon; font-variant:small-caps">'''Roger Davies'''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Roger Davies|''talk'']]</sup> 18:21, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:# '''[[User:LFaraone|L]]<font color="darkgreen">[[User talk:LFaraone|<span style="color:darkgreen;">Faraone]]</fontspan>]]''' 18:53, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:Newyorkbrad|Newyorkbrad]] ([[User talk:Newyorkbrad|talk]]) 20:12, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:# '''[[User:DGG| DGG]]''' ([[User talk:DGG| talk ]]) 20:26, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:#[[User:Beeblebrox|Beeblebrox]] ([[User talk:Beeblebrox|talk]]) 21:27, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:#First choice --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 22:16, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:Timotheus Canens|T. Canens]] ([[User talk:Timotheus Canens|talk]]) 01:46, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:Euryalus|Euryalus]] ([[User talk:Euryalus|talk]]) 05:32, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
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:::<s>Will prioritise later if need be, &nbsp;[[User:Roger Davies|<span style="color:maroon; font-variant:small-caps">'''Roger Davies'''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Roger Davies|''talk'']]</sup> 23:40, 19 January 2015 (UTC)</s>
:# Second choice. <font color="#cc6600">[[User:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#cc6600;">Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs]]</fontspan>]]<sup><small>(<font color="#ff6600">[[User talk:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#ff6600;">talk]]</fontspan>]])</small></sup> 23:56, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
:# --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 07:58, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:#:Last choice --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 22:16, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
 
:Oppose:
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:# <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.118em 0.118em 0.118em;" class="texhtml"> '''[[User:Salvio giuliano|Salvio]]'''</span> [[User talk:Salvio giuliano|<sup>Let's talk about it!</sup>]] 10:46, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
:# Switch to oppose, &nbsp;[[User:Roger Davies|<span style="color:maroon; font-variant:small-caps">'''Roger Davies'''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Roger Davies|''talk'']]</sup> 15:50, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
:# '''[[User:LFaraone|L]]<font color="darkgreen">[[User talk:LFaraone|<span style="color:darkgreen;">Faraone]]</fontspan>]]''' 18:53, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:Newyorkbrad|Newyorkbrad]] ([[User talk:Newyorkbrad|talk]]) 20:13, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:#Per my remarks below. [[User:Beeblebrox|Beeblebrox]] ([[User talk:Beeblebrox|talk]]) 21:26, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
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:#[[User:Beeblebrox|Beeblebrox]] ([[User talk:Beeblebrox|talk]]) 23:27, 19 January 2015 (UTC)
:#: <s>&nbsp;[[User:Roger Davies|<span style="color:maroon; font-variant:small-caps">'''Roger Davies'''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Roger Davies|''talk'']]</sup> 23:41, 19 January 2015 (UTC)</s>Switch to oppose.
:#: <s>'''[[User:LFaraone|L]]<font color="darkgreen">[[User talk:LFaraone|<span style="color:darkgreen;">Faraone]]</fontspan>]]''' 03:03, 20 January 2015 (UTC)</s>
:# I believe this does not require prior warning, should that be made explicit? [[User:Courcelles|Courcelles]] 03:11, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:#: It depends how tough on SPAs/Newbies we wish to be. I believe we should always have a warning especially as whenever I ask the consensus always seems to be that nobody reads editnotices anyway. Whether this deals with existing SPAs hovering around the topic quickly enough is another matter ... &nbsp;[[User:Roger Davies|<span style="color:maroon; font-variant:small-caps">'''Roger Davies'''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Roger Davies|''talk'']]</sup> 04:22, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small> 05:36, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# '''[[User:DGG| DGG]]''' ([[User talk:DGG| talk ]]) 05:36, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# As the person who [[Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Scientology#Single purpose accounts|dug this up]]. I don't think warnings are needed here because this is meant to be an ulta-fast but light-weight version of DS to deal with the waves of SPAs that have and will enter the topic area to push an agenda. --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 05:51, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# <font color="#cc6600">[[User:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#cc6600;">Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs]]</fontspan>]]<sup><small>(<font color="#ff6600">[[User talk:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#ff6600;">talk]]</fontspan>]])</small></sup> 13:56, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:Timotheus Canens|T. Canens]] ([[User talk:Timotheus Canens|talk]]) 04:41, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
:#: <s> <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.118em 0.118em 0.118em;" class="texhtml"> '''[[User:Salvio giuliano|Salvio]]'''</span> [[User talk:Salvio giuliano|<sup>Let's talk about it!</sup>]] 10:46, 21 January 2015 (UTC)</s>
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:# On second thoughts, I agree with Roger. We have already authorised discretionary sanctions in the area of conflict; on top of that, administrators can still use their "traditional" powers to deal with disruptive editors who haven't yet been warned. In light of that, this remedy would be superfluous. <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.118em 0.118em 0.118em;" class="texhtml"> '''[[User:Salvio giuliano|Salvio]]'''</span> [[User talk:Salvio giuliano|<sup>Let's talk about it!</sup>]] 12:02, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
:# On reflection, I agree with Roger and Salvio. [[User:Seraphimblade|Seraphimblade]] <small><sup>[[User talk:Seraphimblade|Talk to me]]</sup></small> 18:11, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
:# '''[[User:LFaraone|L]]<font color="darkgreen">[[User talk:LFaraone|<span style="color:darkgreen;">Faraone]]</fontspan>]]''' 18:57, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
:# Although the impetus behind the proposal is sound, I think this is unnecessary in light of the DS remedy that is passing unanimously, and risks triggering too many debates about which accounts fall within the scope or not. I do, however, believe that an account's overall editing history (or lack of one) may be relevant in deciding whether a discretionary sanction is warranted, and if so what the sanction should be. This cuts both ways, and administrators must use good judgment is trying to, for example, distinguish new good-faith users making rookie mistakes from new bad-faith disruption accounts. [[User:Newyorkbrad|Newyorkbrad]] ([[User talk:Newyorkbrad|talk]]) 13:59, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
:# Per Salvio, Brad. ''[[User:NativeForeigner|NativeForeigner]]'' <sup>[[User talk:NativeForeigner|Talk]]</sup> 23:45, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
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:# &nbsp;[[User:Roger Davies|<span style="color:maroon; font-variant:small-caps">'''Roger Davies'''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Roger Davies|''talk'']]</sup> 18:21, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:Euryalus|Euryalus]] ([[User talk:Euryalus|talk]]) 18:44, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:# '''[[User:LFaraone|L]]<font color="darkgreen">[[User talk:LFaraone|<span style="color:darkgreen;">Faraone]]</fontspan>]]''' 18:56, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:# '''[[User:DGG| DGG]]''' ([[User talk:DGG| talk ]]) 20:27, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:Seraphimblade|Seraphimblade]] <small><sup>[[User talk:Seraphimblade|Talk to me]]</sup></small> 20:44, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:# --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 22:16, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:Timotheus Canens|T. Canens]] ([[User talk:Timotheus Canens|talk]]) 01:47, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
:# I'm not a huge fan of how a couple of the topic bans came about, but this is a reasonable step. ''[[User:NativeForeigner|NativeForeigner]]'' <sup>[[User talk:NativeForeigner|Talk]]</sup> 07:26, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
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:# &nbsp;[[User:Roger Davies|<span style="color:maroon; font-variant:small-caps">'''Roger Davies'''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Roger Davies|''talk'']]</sup> 18:21, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:Euryalus|Euryalus]] ([[User talk:Euryalus|talk]]) 18:45, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:# '''[[User:LFaraone|L]]<font color="darkgreen">[[User talk:LFaraone|<span style="color:darkgreen;">Faraone]]</fontspan>]]''' 18:56, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:Newyorkbrad|Newyorkbrad]] ([[User talk:Newyorkbrad|talk]]) 20:16, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:# '''[[User:DGG| DGG]]''' ([[User talk:DGG| talk ]]) 20:28, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:# Per the relevant FoF. [[User:Seraphimblade|Seraphimblade]] <small><sup>[[User talk:Seraphimblade|Talk to me]]</sup></small> 20:44, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:# --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 22:16, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:Timotheus Canens|T. Canens]] ([[User talk:Timotheus Canens|talk]]) 01:47, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
:# ''[[User:NativeForeigner|NativeForeigner]]'' <sup>[[User talk:NativeForeigner|Talk]]</sup> 07:26, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
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:# [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small> 17:18, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:# &nbsp;[[User:Roger Davies|<span style="color:maroon; font-variant:small-caps">'''Roger Davies'''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Roger Davies|''talk'']]</sup> 18:21, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:# '''[[User:LFaraone|L]]<font color="darkgreen">[[User talk:LFaraone|<span style="color:darkgreen;">Faraone]]</fontspan>]]''' 18:56, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:# '''[[User:DGG| DGG]]''' ([[User talk:DGG| talk ]]) 20:29, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:# --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 22:16, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:#:second choice --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 02:57, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:Timotheus Canens|T. Canens]] ([[User talk:Timotheus Canens|talk]]) 01:47, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
:# Just barely. The diffs in the Findings are insufficient to support this remedy, but a review of on-wiki contributions indicates a topic ban would be beneficial in resolving the overall dispute. -- [[User:Euryalus|Euryalus]] ([[User talk:Euryalus|talk]]) 04:25, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
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::* --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 02:59, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
 
:Oppose:
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:# Per all the above, &nbsp;[[User:Roger Davies|<span style="color:maroon; font-variant:small-caps">'''Roger Davies'''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Roger Davies|''talk'']]</sup> 12:07, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
:# Not supported by the current evidence. [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small> 16:03, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
:# I rescinded the FoF that would have supported this --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 20:36, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
:# '''[[User:LFaraone|L]]<font color="darkgreen">[[User talk:LFaraone|<span style="color:darkgreen;">Faraone]]</fontspan>]]''' 18:51, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
:# Insufficient evidence at this time. [[User:Newyorkbrad|Newyorkbrad]] ([[User talk:Newyorkbrad|talk]]) 14:09, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
 
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:# &nbsp;[[User:Roger Davies|<span style="color:maroon; font-variant:small-caps">'''Roger Davies'''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Roger Davies|''talk'']]</sup> 18:21, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:Euryalus|Euryalus]] ([[User talk:Euryalus|talk]]) 18:46, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:# '''[[User:LFaraone|L]]<font color="darkgreen">[[User talk:LFaraone|<span style="color:darkgreen;">Faraone]]</fontspan>]]''' 18:56, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:# '''[[User:DGG| DGG]]''' ([[User talk:DGG| talk ]]) 20:30, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:Seraphimblade|Seraphimblade]] <small><sup>[[User talk:Seraphimblade|Talk to me]]</sup></small> 20:45, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:# --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 22:16, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:Timotheus Canens|T. Canens]] ([[User talk:Timotheus Canens|talk]]) 01:47, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
:# I'd like to applaud the voluntary disengagement, this is likely not necessary, but it makes some sense to have it on the books. ''[[User:NativeForeigner|NativeForeigner]]'' <sup>[[User talk:NativeForeigner|Talk]]</sup> 07:26, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
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:# [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small> 07:25, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 08:01, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
 
:Oppose:
:# The FOF doesn't describe any misconduct, &nbsp;[[User:Roger Davies|<span style="color:maroon; font-variant:small-caps">'''Roger Davies'''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Roger Davies|''talk'']]</sup> 10:13, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# FoF supports no such restriction, as it describes no wrongdoing. <font color="#cc6600">[[User:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#cc6600;">Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs]]</fontspan>]]<sup><small>(<font color="#ff6600">[[User talk:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#ff6600;">talk]]</fontspan>]])</small></sup> 14:50, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:Euryalus|Euryalus]] ([[User talk:Euryalus|talk]]) 20:25, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# Of the mindset that Masem should take a step back from the area, though. [[User:Courcelles|Courcelles]] 22:01, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:Timotheus Canens|T. Canens]] ([[User talk:Timotheus Canens|talk]]) 04:35, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
:# <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.118em 0.118em 0.118em;" class="texhtml"> '''[[User:Salvio giuliano|Salvio]]'''</span> [[User talk:Salvio giuliano|<sup>Let's talk about it!</sup>]] 10:46, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
:# '''[[User:LFaraone|L]]<font color="darkgreen">[[User talk:LFaraone|<span style="color:darkgreen;">Faraone]]</fontspan>]]''' 18:56, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:# No FoF justifying this is passing. [[User:Seraphimblade|Seraphimblade]] <small><sup>[[User talk:Seraphimblade|Talk to me]]</sup></small> 20:46, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
:# ''[[User:NativeForeigner|NativeForeigner]]'' <sup>[[User talk:NativeForeigner|Talk]]</sup> 07:26, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
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:#as proposer --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 07:45, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# Given the revised FoF, I do not believe this editor will follow his topic ban. [[User:Courcelles|Courcelles]] 18:04, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
:# In light of additional diffs in the FoF. [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small> 22:31, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
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:# <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.118em 0.118em 0.118em;" class="texhtml"> '''[[User:Salvio giuliano|Salvio]]'''</span> [[User talk:Salvio giuliano|<sup>Let's talk about it!</sup>]] 10:46, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
:# <font color="#cc6600">[[User:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#cc6600;">Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs]]</fontspan>]]<sup><small>(<font color="#ff6600">[[User talk:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#ff6600;">talk]]</fontspan>]])</small></sup> 13:48, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:Euryalus|Euryalus]] ([[User talk:Euryalus|talk]]) 04:27, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
:# Violations of the topic ban can be dealt with swiftly at AE. This editor was given a final warning on the violations by HJ Mitchell and no action has been necessary since then. [[User:Seraphimblade|Seraphimblade]] <small><sup>[[User talk:Seraphimblade|Talk to me]]</sup></small> 05:42, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
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:# Per Beeblebrox, &nbsp;[[User:Roger Davies|<span style="color:maroon; font-variant:small-caps">'''Roger Davies'''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Roger Davies|''talk'']]</sup> 05:33, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
:# Per other opposers, but this user seriously needs to clean up his act or he is not going to last. [[User:Newyorkbrad|Newyorkbrad]] ([[User talk:Newyorkbrad|talk]]) 15:59, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
:# '''[[User:LFaraone|L]]<font color="darkgreen">[[User talk:LFaraone|<span style="color:darkgreen;">Faraone]]</fontspan>]]''' 18:51, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
 
:Abstain:
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:#Adapted from the ''Scientology'' case. This topic needs experienced editors who haven't been involved already to come in and ensure the articles follow policies such as RS, NPOV, etc. Not sure how much remedies like this actually ''do'' anything, but I do live in hope. [[User:Courcelles|Courcelles]] 01:53, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
:#: For what it's worth, Scientology is stable, six years on. This was probably achieved by encouraging all the major players to move on, mainly with topic-bans, and the egregious ones to move out, with site bans. It took much of the invested heat out of the pages and left a calmer environment for neutral editors, who had been driven out, to work in. &nbsp;[[User:Roger Davies|<span style="color:maroon; font-variant:small-caps">'''Roger Davies'''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Roger Davies|''talk'']]</sup> 09:28, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
:# --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 02:22, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
:# I guess. Echoing Courcelles that I don't feel like these remedies do much of anything at all. [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small> 02:39, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
:# <font color="#cc6600">[[User:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#cc6600;">Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs]]</fontspan>]]<sup><small>(<font color="#ff6600">[[User talk:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#ff6600;">talk]]</fontspan>]])</small></sup> 04:08, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
:# In that I'd like to see it happen, but I don't really know that these do any good either. [[User:Seraphimblade|Seraphimblade]] <small><sup>[[User talk:Seraphimblade|Talk to me]]</sup></small> 05:43, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
:# ''[[User:NativeForeigner|NativeForeigner]]'' <sup>[[User talk:NativeForeigner|Talk]]</sup> 07:26, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
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:# Although I am rather doubtful that our saying this platitude will make a difference one way or another. '''[[User:DGG| DGG]]''' ([[User talk:DGG| talk ]]) 21:42, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
:# I actually do think this sort of remedy is potentially helpful. If even one or two solid, uninvolved, experienced editors were to enter the area, that could be very worthwhile. [[User:Newyorkbrad|Newyorkbrad]] ([[User talk:Newyorkbrad|talk]]) 10:10, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
:# '''[[User:LFaraone|L]]<font color="darkgreen">[[User talk:LFaraone|<span style="color:darkgreen;">Faraone]]</fontspan>]]''' 18:52, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
:# <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.118em 0.118em 0.118em;" class="texhtml"> '''[[User:Salvio giuliano|Salvio]]'''</span> [[User talk:Salvio giuliano|<sup>Let's talk about it!</sup>]] 19:11, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
 
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==Motion to close==
===Implementation notes===
''Clerks and Arbitrators should use this section to clarify their understanding of the final decision—at a minimum, a list of items that have passed. Additionally, a list of which remedies are conditional on others (for instance a ban that should only be implemented if a mentorship should fail), and so on. Arbitrators should not pass the motion to close the case until they are satisfied with the implementation notes.''
{{ACImplNotes
|updated = <b>[[User:Callanecc|Callanecc]]</b> ([[User talk:Callanecc|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Callanecc|contribs]] • [[Special:Log/Callanecc|logs]]) 04:49, 28 January 2015 (UTC) <!--(replace after each update)-->
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{{ACImplNotes/Proposal|name=Biographical content |number=3 |support=14 |oppose=0 |abstain=0 |notes=}}
{{ACImplNotes/Proposal|name=Administrators and BLPs |number=4 |support=14 |oppose=0 |abstain=0 |notes=}}
{{ACImplNotes/Proposal|name=Accuracy of sources |number=5 |support=14 |oppose=0 |abstain=0 |notes=}}
{{ACImplNotes/Proposal|name=Administrators and 'involvement' |number=6 |support=14 |oppose=0 |abstain=0 |notes=}}
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{{ACImplNotes/Proposal|name=Decorum |number=8 |support=14 |oppose=0 |abstain=0 |notes=}}
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''These notes were last updated by <b>[[User:Callanecc|Callanecc]]</b> ([[User talk:Callanecc|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Callanecc|contribs]] • [[Special:Log/Callanecc|logs]]) 23:10, 28 January 2015 (UTC); the last edit to this page was on {{#time: H:i, j F Y "(UTC)"|{{REVISIONTIMESTAMP}}}} by [[User:{{REVISIONUSER}}]].''
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{{ACImplNotes/Proposal|name=The Devil's Advocate: Noticeboards |number=8.4 |support=10 |oppose=1 |abstain=0 |notes=<ref name=R8/>}}
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| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} '''[[#Battlefield conduct|Battlefield conduct]]'''
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| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} 0
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| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} '''[[#Accuracy of sources|Accuracy of sources]]'''
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| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}}
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| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} '''[[#Administrators and 'involvement'|Administrators and 'involvement']]'''
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| bgcolor="#CCFFCC" {{!}} [[File:Artículo bueno.svg|20px|alt=PASSING|link=]]
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| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} '''[[#Single purpose accounts|Single purpose accounts]]'''
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| bgcolor="#CCFFCC" {{!}} [[File:Artículo bueno.svg|20px|alt=PASSING|link=]]
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| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} '''[[#Decorum|Decorum]]'''
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| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}}
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| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} '''[[#Conduct during arbitration cases|Conduct during arbitration cases]]'''
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| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} 0
| bgcolor="#CCFFCC" {{!}} [[File:Artículo bueno.svg|20px|alt=PASSING|link=]]
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} '''·'''
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}}
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| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} '''[[#Recidivism|Recidivism]]'''
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| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} 0
| bgcolor="#CCFFCC" {{!}} [[File:Artículo bueno.svg|20px|alt=PASSING|link=]]
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| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}}
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! style="background:#E9FEE9 !important;" {{!}} 11
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} '''[[#Enough is enough|Enough is enough]]'''
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| bgcolor="#CCFFCC" {{!}} [[File:Artículo bueno.svg|20px|alt=PASSING|link=]]
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| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} '''[[#Neutral point of view|Neutral point of view]]'''
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| bgcolor="#CCFFCC" {{!}} [[File:Artículo bueno.svg|20px|alt=PASSING|link=]]
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| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}}
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! style="background:#E9FEE9 !important;" {{!}} 13
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} '''[[#Harassment|Harassment]]'''
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| bgcolor="#CCFFCC" {{!}} [[File:Artículo bueno.svg|20px|alt=PASSING|link=]]
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} '''·'''
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| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} '''[[#Limitations of arbitration|Limitations of arbitration]]'''
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!colspan="8" style="background:#FFFF99 !important;"|[[#Proposed findings of fact|Proposed Findings of Fact]]
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!Number
!Proposal Name
!Support
!Oppose
!Abstain
!Status
!Support needed
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| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} '''[[#History of the dispute|History of the dispute]]'''
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| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}}
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! style="background:#E9FEE9 !important;" {{!}} 3
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} '''[[#DungeonSiegeAddict510|DungeonSiegeAddict510]]'''
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| bgcolor="#CCFFCC" {{!}} [[File:Artículo bueno.svg|20px|alt=PASSING|link=]]
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} '''·'''
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}}
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| bgcolor="#FDEDED" {{!}} [[#Gamaliel|Gamaliel]]
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| bgcolor="#FDEDED" {{!}} 7
| bgcolor="#FDEDED" {{!}} 0
| bgcolor="#FFCCCC" {{!}} [[Image:Symbol delete vote darkened.svg|20px|alt=NOT PASSING|link=]]
| bgcolor="#FDEDED" {{!}} Cannot pass
| bgcolor="#FDEDED" {{!}}
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! style="background:#E9FEE9 !important;" {{!}} 5
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} '''[[#NorthBySouthBaranof|NorthBySouthBaranof]]'''
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| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} 2
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} 1
| bgcolor="#CCFFCC" {{!}} [[File:Artículo bueno.svg|20px|alt=PASSING|link=]]
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} '''·'''
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| bgcolor="#FDEDED" {{!}} [[#Ryulong|Ryulong]]
| bgcolor="#FDEDED" {{!}} 4
| bgcolor="#FDEDED" {{!}} 5
| bgcolor="#FDEDED" {{!}} 0
| bgcolor="#FFCCCC" {{!}} [[Image:Symbol delete vote darkened.svg|20px|alt=NOT PASSING|link=]]
| bgcolor="#FDEDED" {{!}} 4
| bgcolor="#FDEDED" {{!}} <ref name=F6>As F6 is failing second choice votes on finding R6.1 have been counted and second choice votes on R6 have not been counted.</ref>
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! style="background:#E9FEE9 !important;" {{!}} 6.1
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} '''[[#Ryulong (alternate)|Ryulong (alternate)]]'''
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| bgcolor="#CCFFCC" {{!}} [[File:Artículo bueno.svg|20px|alt=PASSING|link=]]
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} '''·'''
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} <ref name=F6/>
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! style="background:#E9FEE9 !important;" {{!}} 7
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} '''[[#Tarc|Tarc]]'''
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| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} 1
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} 2
| bgcolor="#CCFFCC" {{!}} [[File:Artículo bueno.svg|20px|alt=PASSING|link=]]
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} '''·'''
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}}
|-
! style="background:#E9FEE9 !important;" {{!}} 8
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} '''[[#The Devil's Advocate|The Devil's Advocate]]'''
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| bgcolor="#CCFFCC" {{!}} [[File:Artículo bueno.svg|20px|alt=PASSING|link=]]
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} '''·'''
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}}
|-
! style="background:#E9FEE9 !important;" {{!}} 9
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} '''[[#TheRedPenOfDoom|TheRedPenOfDoom]]'''
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! style="background:#E9FEE9 !important;" {{!}} 10
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} '''[[#Titanium Dragon|Titanium Dragon]]'''
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} 13
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} 0
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} 0
| bgcolor="#CCFFCC" {{!}} [[File:Artículo bueno.svg|20px|alt=PASSING|link=]]
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} '''·'''
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}}
|-
! style="background:#E9FEE9 !important;" {{!}} 11
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} '''[[#Tutelary|Tutelary]]'''
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} 13
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} 0
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} 0
| bgcolor="#CCFFCC" {{!}} [[File:Artículo bueno.svg|20px|alt=PASSING|link=]]
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} '''·'''
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}}
|-
! style="background:#E9FEE9 !important;" {{!}} 12
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} '''[[#TaraInDC|TaraInDC]]'''
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} 12
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} 1
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} 0
| bgcolor="#CCFFCC" {{!}} [[File:Artículo bueno.svg|20px|alt=PASSING|link=]]
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} '''·'''
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}}
|-
! style="background:#E9FEE9 !important;" {{!}} 13
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} '''[[#Parties topic-banned by the community|Parties topic-banned by the community]]'''
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} 14
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} 0
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} 0
| bgcolor="#CCFFCC" {{!}} [[File:Artículo bueno.svg|20px|alt=PASSING|link=]]
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} '''·'''
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}}
|-
! style="background:#E9FEE9 !important;" {{!}} 14
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} '''[[#Loganmac|Loganmac]]'''
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} 14
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} 0
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} 0
| bgcolor="#CCFFCC" {{!}} [[File:Artículo bueno.svg|20px|alt=PASSING|link=]]
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} '''·'''
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}}
|-
! style="background:#E9FEE9 !important;" {{!}} 15
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} '''[[#Willhesucceed|Willhesucceed]]'''
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} 13
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} 0
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} 0
| bgcolor="#CCFFCC" {{!}} [[File:Artículo bueno.svg|20px|alt=PASSING|link=]]
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} '''·'''
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}}
|-
! style="background:#FDEDED !important;" {{!}} 16
| bgcolor="#FDEDED" {{!}} [[#Masem|Masem]]
| bgcolor="#FDEDED" {{!}} 2
| bgcolor="#FDEDED" {{!}} 11
| bgcolor="#FDEDED" {{!}} 0
| bgcolor="#FFCCCC" {{!}} [[Image:Symbol delete vote darkened.svg|20px|alt=NOT PASSING|link=]]
| bgcolor="#FDEDED" {{!}} Cannot pass
| bgcolor="#FDEDED" {{!}}
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!colspan="8" style="background:#FFFF99 !important;"|[[#Proposed remedies|Proposed Remedies]]
|-
!Number
!Proposal Name
!Support
!Oppose
!Abstain
!Status
!Support needed
!Notes
|-
|-
! style="background:#E9FEE9 !important;" {{!}} 1.1
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} '''[[#Discretionary sanctions|Discretionary sanctions]]'''
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} 14
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} 0
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} 0
| bgcolor="#CCFFCC" {{!}} [[File:Artículo bueno.svg|20px|alt=PASSING|link=]]
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} '''·'''
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}}
|-
! style="background:#E9FEE9 !important;" {{!}} 1.2
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} '''[[#Sanctions available|Sanctions available]]'''
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} 12
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} 0
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} 0
| bgcolor="#CCFFCC" {{!}} [[File:Artículo bueno.svg|20px|alt=PASSING|link=]]
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} '''·'''
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}}
|-
! style="background:#E9FEE9 !important;" {{!}} 2.1
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} '''[[#Scope of standard topic ban (I)|Scope of standard topic ban (I)]]'''
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} 13
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} 0
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} 0
| bgcolor="#CCFFCC" {{!}} [[File:Artículo bueno.svg|20px|alt=PASSING|link=]]
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} '''·'''
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} <ref name=R2>As R2.1 is passing, second choice votes have not been counted on 2.2.</ref>
|-
! style="background:#FDEDED !important;" {{!}} 2.2
| bgcolor="#FDEDED" {{!}} [[#Scope of standard topic ban (II)|Scope of standard topic ban (II)]]
| bgcolor="#FDEDED" {{!}} 3
| bgcolor="#FDEDED" {{!}} 6
| bgcolor="#FDEDED" {{!}} 0
| bgcolor="#FFCCCC" {{!}} [[Image:Symbol delete vote darkened.svg|20px|alt=NOT PASSING|link=]]
| bgcolor="#FDEDED" {{!}} 5
| bgcolor="#FDEDED" {{!}} <ref name=R2 />
|-
! style="background:#FDEDED !important;" {{!}} 3
| bgcolor="#FDEDED" {{!}} [[#Gamaliel reminded|Gamaliel reminded]]
| bgcolor="#FDEDED" {{!}} 6
| bgcolor="#FDEDED" {{!}} 8
| bgcolor="#FDEDED" {{!}} 0
| bgcolor="#FFCCCC" {{!}} [[Image:Symbol delete vote darkened.svg|20px|alt=NOT PASSING|link=]]
| bgcolor="#FDEDED" {{!}} Cannot pass
| bgcolor="#FDEDED" {{!}}
|-
! style="background:#E9FEE9 !important;" {{!}} 4.1
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} '''[[#NorthBySouthBaranof topic-banned|NorthBySouthBaranof topic-banned]]'''
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} 9
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} 3
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} 2
| bgcolor="#CCFFCC" {{!}} [[File:Artículo bueno.svg|20px|alt=PASSING|link=]]
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} '''·'''
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} <ref name=R4 />
|-
! style="background:#FDEDED !important;" {{!}} 4.2
| bgcolor="#FDEDED" {{!}} [[#NorthBySouthBaranof admonished|NorthBySouthBaranof admonished]]
| bgcolor="#FDEDED" {{!}} 5
| bgcolor="#FDEDED" {{!}} 1
| bgcolor="#FDEDED" {{!}} 1
| bgcolor="#FFCCCC" {{!}} [[Image:Symbol delete vote darkened.svg|20px|alt=NOT PASSING|link=]]
| bgcolor="#FDEDED" {{!}} 2
| bgcolor="#FDEDED" {{!}} <ref name=R4>As R4.1 is passing, second choice votes on R4.2 have been counted in the total.</ref>
|-
! style="background:#E9FEE9 !important;" {{!}} 5.1
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} '''[[#Ryulong topic-banned|Ryulong topic-banned]]'''
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} 9
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} 0
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} 1
| bgcolor="#CCFFCC" {{!}} [[File:Artículo bueno.svg|20px|alt=PASSING|link=]]
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} '''·'''
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} See below
|-
! style="background:#FDEDED !important;" {{!}} 5.2
| bgcolor="#FDEDED" {{!}} [[#Ryulong: other topics restriction|Ryulong: other topics restriction]]
| bgcolor="#FDEDED" {{!}} 1
| bgcolor="#FDEDED" {{!}} 11
| bgcolor="#FDEDED" {{!}} 0
| bgcolor="#FFCCCC" {{!}} [[Image:Symbol delete vote darkened.svg|20px|alt=NOT PASSING|link=]]
| bgcolor="#FDEDED" {{!}} Cannot pass
| bgcolor="#FDEDED" {{!}} See below
|-
! style="background:#E9FEE9 !important;" {{!}} 5.3
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} '''[[#Ryulong banned|Ryulong banned]]'''
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} 8
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} 4
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} 1
| bgcolor="#CCFFCC" {{!}} [[File:Artículo bueno.svg|20px|alt=PASSING|link=]]
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} '''·'''
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} See below
|-
! style="background:#FDEDED !important;" {{!}} 5.4
| bgcolor="#FDEDED" {{!}} [[#Ryulong warned|Ryulong warned]]
| bgcolor="#FDEDED" {{!}} 4
| bgcolor="#FDEDED" {{!}} 4
| bgcolor="#FDEDED" {{!}} 1
| bgcolor="#FFCCCC" {{!}} [[Image:Symbol delete vote darkened.svg|20px|alt=NOT PASSING|link=]]
| bgcolor="#FDEDED" {{!}} 3
| bgcolor="#FDEDED" {{!}} See below
|-
! style="background:#FDEDED !important;" {{!}} 5.5
| bgcolor="#FDEDED" {{!}} [[#Ryulong: 1RR|Ryulong: 1RR]]
| bgcolor="#FDEDED" {{!}} 5
| bgcolor="#FDEDED" {{!}} 7
| bgcolor="#FDEDED" {{!}} 0
| bgcolor="#FFCCCC" {{!}} [[Image:Symbol delete vote darkened.svg|20px|alt=NOT PASSING|link=]]
| bgcolor="#FDEDED" {{!}} Cannot pass
| bgcolor="#FDEDED" {{!}} See below
|-
! style="background:#FDEDED !important;" {{!}} 6.1
| bgcolor="#FDEDED" {{!}} [[#TaraInDC topic-banned|TaraInDC topic-banned]]
| bgcolor="#FDEDED" {{!}} 6
| bgcolor="#FDEDED" {{!}} 6
| bgcolor="#FDEDED" {{!}} 2
| bgcolor="#FFCCCC" {{!}} [[Image:Symbol delete vote darkened.svg|20px|alt=NOT PASSING|link=]]
| bgcolor="#FDEDED" {{!}} Cannot pass
| bgcolor="#FDEDED" {{!}} <ref name=R6>As R6.1 is failing, second choice votes for R6.2 have been counted.</ref>
|-
! style="background:#E9FEE9 !important;" {{!}} 6.2
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} '''[[#TaraInDC admonished|TaraInDC admonished]]'''
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} 11
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} 2
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} 0
| bgcolor="#CCFFCC" {{!}} [[File:Artículo bueno.svg|20px|alt=PASSING|link=]]
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} '''·'''
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} <ref name=R6 />
|-
! style="background:#FDEDED !important;" {{!}} 7.1
| bgcolor="#FDEDED" {{!}} [[#Tarc banned|Tarc banned]]
| bgcolor="#FDEDED" {{!}} 5
| bgcolor="#FDEDED" {{!}} 10
| bgcolor="#FDEDED" {{!}} 1
| bgcolor="#FFCCCC" {{!}} [[Image:Symbol delete vote darkened.svg|20px|alt=NOT PASSING|link=]]
| bgcolor="#FDEDED" {{!}} Cannot pass
| bgcolor="#FDEDED" {{!}} <ref name=R7>As R7.1 is failing Beeblebrox and David Fuch's second choice votes for R7.2 have been counted and their first choice on R7.1 have not. David Fuch's third choice vote on R7.3 has not been counted.</ref>
|-
! style="background:#E9FEE9 !important;" {{!}} 7.2
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} '''[[#Tarc topic-banned|Tarc topic-banned]]'''
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} 11
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} 2
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} 1
| bgcolor="#CCFFCC" {{!}} [[File:Artículo bueno.svg|20px|alt=PASSING|link=]]
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} '''·'''
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} <ref name=R7 />
|-
! style="background:#E9FEE9 !important;" {{!}} 7.3
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} '''[[#Tarc warned|Tarc warned]]'''
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} 8
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} 2
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} 2
| bgcolor="#CCFFCC" {{!}} [[File:Artículo bueno.svg|20px|alt=PASSING|link=]]
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} '''·'''
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} <ref name=R7 />
|-
! style="background:#FDEDED !important;" {{!}} 7.4
| bgcolor="#FDEDED" {{!}} [[#Tarc: 1RR|Tarc: 1RR]]
| bgcolor="#FDEDED" {{!}} 5
| bgcolor="#FDEDED" {{!}} 6
| bgcolor="#FDEDED" {{!}} 3
| bgcolor="#FFCCCC" {{!}} [[Image:Symbol delete vote darkened.svg|20px|alt=NOT PASSING|link=]]
| bgcolor="#FDEDED" {{!}} Cannot pass
| bgcolor="#FDEDED" {{!}}
|-
! style="background:#FDEDED !important;" {{!}} 8.1
| bgcolor="#FDEDED" {{!}} [[#The Devil's Advocate banned|The Devil's Advocate banned]]
| bgcolor="#FDEDED" {{!}} 2
| bgcolor="#FDEDED" {{!}} 4
| bgcolor="#FDEDED" {{!}} 1
| bgcolor="#FFCCCC" {{!}} [[Image:Symbol delete vote darkened.svg|20px|alt=NOT PASSING|link=]]
| bgcolor="#FDEDED" {{!}} 5
| bgcolor="#FDEDED" {{!}} <ref name=R8>Votes from R8.1 have been distributed as it is not currently passing (Beeblebrox & Euryalus). T. Canens' conditional vote on R8.1 has not been counted.</ref>
|-
! style="background:#E9FEE9 !important;" {{!}} 8.2
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} '''[[#The Devil's Advocate topic-banned|The Devil's Advocate topic-banned]]'''
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} 13
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} 0
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} 0
| bgcolor="#CCFFCC" {{!}} [[File:Artículo bueno.svg|20px|alt=PASSING|link=]]
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} '''·'''
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} <ref name=R8/>
|-
! style="background:#E9FEE9 !important;" {{!}} 8.3
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} '''[[#The Devil's Advocate: 1RR|The Devil's Advocate: 1RR]]'''
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} 10
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} 1
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} 0
| bgcolor="#CCFFCC" {{!}} [[File:Artículo bueno.svg|20px|alt=PASSING|link=]]
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} '''·'''
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} <ref name=R8/>
|-
! style="background:#E9FEE9 !important;" {{!}} 8.4
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} '''[[#The Devil's Advocate: Noticeboards|The Devil's Advocate: Noticeboards]]'''
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} 10
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} 1
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} 0
| bgcolor="#CCFFCC" {{!}} [[File:Artículo bueno.svg|20px|alt=PASSING|link=]]
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} '''·'''
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} <ref name=R8/>
|-
! style="background:#E9FEE9 !important;" {{!}} 8.5
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} '''[[#The Devil's Advocate warned|The Devil's Advocate warned]]'''
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} 8
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} 3
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} 1
| bgcolor="#CCFFCC" {{!}} [[File:Artículo bueno.svg|20px|alt=PASSING|link=]]
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} '''·'''
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} <ref name=R8/>
|-
! style="background:#E9FEE9 !important;" {{!}} 9
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} '''[[#TheRedPenOfDoom admonished|TheRedPenOfDoom admonished]]'''
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} 10
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} 4
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} 0
| bgcolor="#CCFFCC" {{!}} [[File:Artículo bueno.svg|20px|alt=PASSING|link=]]
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} '''·'''
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}}
|-
! style="background:#E9FEE9 !important;" {{!}} 10.1
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} '''[[#Tutelary topic-banned|Tutelary topic-banned]]'''
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} 13
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} 0
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} 0
| bgcolor="#CCFFCC" {{!}} [[File:Artículo bueno.svg|20px|alt=PASSING|link=]]
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} '''·'''
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} <ref name=R10>David Fuchs' and Guerillero's second choice votes on 10.2 have not been counted, their first choice votes on R10.1 have.</ref>
|-
! style="background:#FDEDED !important;" {{!}} 10.2
| bgcolor="#FDEDED" {{!}} [[#Tutelary banned|Tutelary banned]]
| bgcolor="#FDEDED" {{!}} 0
| bgcolor="#FDEDED" {{!}} 11
| bgcolor="#FDEDED" {{!}} 0
| bgcolor="#FFCCCC" {{!}} [[Image:Symbol delete vote darkened.svg|20px|alt=NOT PASSING|link=]]
| bgcolor="#FDEDED" {{!}} Cannot pass
| bgcolor="#FDEDED" {{!}} <ref name=R10 />
|-
! style="background:#FDEDED !important;" {{!}} 11
| bgcolor="#FDEDED" {{!}} [[#Editors focused primarily on Gamergate with agendas|Editors focused primarily on Gamergate with agendas]]
| bgcolor="#FDEDED" {{!}} 7
| bgcolor="#FDEDED" {{!}} 7
| bgcolor="#FDEDED" {{!}} 0
| bgcolor="#FFCCCC" {{!}} [[Image:Symbol delete vote darkened.svg|20px|alt=NOT PASSING|link=]]
| bgcolor="#FDEDED" {{!}} Cannot pass
| bgcolor="#FDEDED" {{!}}
|-
! style="background:#E9FEE9 !important;" {{!}} 12
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} '''[[#ArmyLine, DungeonSiegeAddict510, and Xander756 topic-banned|ArmyLine, DungeonSiegeAddict510, and Xander756 topic-banned]]'''
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} 12
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} 0
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} 0
| bgcolor="#CCFFCC" {{!}} [[File:Artículo bueno.svg|20px|alt=PASSING|link=]]
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} '''·'''
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}}
|-
! style="background:#E9FEE9 !important;" {{!}} 13
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} '''[[#Titanium Dragon topic-banned|Titanium Dragon topic-banned]]'''
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} 12
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} 0
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} 0
| bgcolor="#CCFFCC" {{!}} [[File:Artículo bueno.svg|20px|alt=PASSING|link=]]
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} '''·'''
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}}
|-
! style="background:#E9FEE9 !important;" {{!}} 14.1
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} '''[[#Loganmac topic-banned|Loganmac topic-banned]]'''
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} 12
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} 0
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} 0
| bgcolor="#CCFFCC" {{!}} [[File:Artículo bueno.svg|20px|alt=PASSING|link=]]
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} '''·'''
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}}
|-
! style="background:#FDEDED !important;" {{!}} 14.2
| bgcolor="#FDEDED" {{!}} [[#Loganmac banned|Loganmac banned]]
| bgcolor="#FDEDED" {{!}} 0
| bgcolor="#FDEDED" {{!}} 9
| bgcolor="#FDEDED" {{!}} 0
| bgcolor="#FFCCCC" {{!}} [[Image:Symbol delete vote darkened.svg|20px|alt=NOT PASSING|link=]]
| bgcolor="#FDEDED" {{!}} Cannot pass
| bgcolor="#FDEDED" {{!}}
|-
! style="background:#E9FEE9 !important;" {{!}} 15
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} '''[[#Willhesucceed topic-banned|Willhesucceed topic-banned]]'''
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} 11
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} 0
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} 1
| bgcolor="#CCFFCC" {{!}} [[File:Artículo bueno.svg|20px|alt=PASSING|link=]]
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} '''·'''
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}}
|-
! style="background:#FDEDED !important;" {{!}} 16
| bgcolor="#FDEDED" {{!}} [[#Masem topic-banned|Masem topic-banned]]
| bgcolor="#FDEDED" {{!}} 2
| bgcolor="#FDEDED" {{!}} 10
| bgcolor="#FDEDED" {{!}} 0
| bgcolor="#FFCCCC" {{!}} [[Image:Symbol delete vote darkened.svg|20px|alt=NOT PASSING|link=]]
| bgcolor="#FDEDED" {{!}} Cannot pass
| bgcolor="#FDEDED" {{!}}
|-
! style="background:#FDEDED !important;" {{!}} 17
| bgcolor="#FDEDED" {{!}} [[#DungeonSiegeAddict510 banned|DungeonSiegeAddict510 banned]]
| bgcolor="#FDEDED" {{!}} 5
| bgcolor="#FDEDED" {{!}} 9
| bgcolor="#FDEDED" {{!}} 0
| bgcolor="#FFCCCC" {{!}} [[Image:Symbol delete vote darkened.svg|20px|alt=NOT PASSING|link=]]
| bgcolor="#FDEDED" {{!}} Cannot pass
| bgcolor="#FDEDED" {{!}}
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! style="background:#E9FEE9 !important;" {{!}} 18
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} '''[[#Review of articles urged|Review of articles urged]]'''
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} 12
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} 0
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} 2
| bgcolor="#CCFFCC" {{!}} [[File:Artículo bueno.svg|20px|alt=PASSING|link=]]
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| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}}
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!colspan="8" style="background:#FFFF99 !important;"|[[#Proposed enforcement|Proposed Enforcement Provisions]]
|-
!Number
!Proposal Name
!Support
!Oppose
!Abstain
!Status
!Support needed
!Notes
|-
|-
! style="background:#E9FEE9 !important;" {{!}} 0
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} '''[[#Enforcement of restrictions|Enforcement of restrictions]]'''
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} 0
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} 0
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} 0
| bgcolor="#CCFFCC" {{!}} [[File:Artículo bueno.svg|20px|alt=PASSING|link=]]
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} 8
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} Passes by default
|-
! style="background:#E9FEE9 !important;" {{!}} 0
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} '''[[#Appeals and modifications|Appeals and modifications]]'''
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} 0
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} 0
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} 0
| bgcolor="#CCFFCC" {{!}} [[File:Artículo bueno.svg|20px|alt=PASSING|link=]]
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} 8
| bgcolor="#E9FEE9" {{!}} Passes by default
|}
 
;Notes
}}
<references/>
 
{{cot|Ryulong remedy calculation}}
Line 2,102 ⟶ 2,700:
| Courcelles || 3 || 3* || 2 || 3 || ''1''
|-
| David Fuchs || 2 || o || 1 || +1 || +1
|-
| DGG || 1 || o || a || ''1^''|| ''1^''
Line 2,108 ⟶ 2,706:
| Euryalus || 1 || o || o || o || o
|-
| Guerillero || '' 1%'' || 1 || 2%o || '' 1%'' || ''1%''
|-
| GorillaWarfare || 1 || o || 1 || ''1 ^''|| 1
|-
| LFaraone || 1 || o || o1 || 1 || 1
|-
| NativeForeigner || 1 || o || 32 || o || o
|-
| Newyorkbrad || a || o || o || a || o
Line 2,126 ⟶ 2,724:
| Timotheus Canens || 1 || o || 1 || ''1^''|| o
|-
| '''TOTALS || 89 || 1 || 8 || 4 || 45
|-
| total needed || 7 || 8 || 7 || 7 || 8
Line 2,133 ⟶ 2,731:
 
<nowiki>*</nowiki> I'm ignoring "my preferred solution" given comments on later votes.
 
% Guerillo's vote is contingent on a package of 5.1, 5.4 & 5.5; as 5.5 is not passing his votes for these remedies do not count and his next preference for 5.3 is counted.
 
+ support is not conditional
 
''Italics'' means that their vote has been distributed to their next choice, and/or that its conditions have not been met so it has not been counted.
Line 2,147 ⟶ 2,741:
 
:;Support
:#Appears remedies are settled and clearly pass/fail on most accounts. <font color="#cc6600">[[User:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#cc6600;">Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs]]</fontspan>]]<sup><small>(<font color="#ff6600">[[User talk:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#ff6600;">talk]]</fontspan>]])</small></sup> 20:00, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
:#I'm done, and this whole case needs to be done ASAP. [[User:Beeblebrox|Beeblebrox]] ([[User talk:Beeblebrox|talk]]) 19:43, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
:#Yeah, this is effectively done. [[User:Courcelles|Courcelles]] 20:19, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
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:# &nbsp;[[User:Roger Davies|<span style="color:maroon; font-variant:small-caps">'''Roger Davies'''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Roger Davies|''talk'']]</sup> 16:10, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
:# [[User:GorillaWarfare|GorillaWarfare]] <small>[[User talk:GorillaWarfare|(talk)]]</small> 03:14, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
:# --[[User:In actu|In actu (Guerillero)]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<span style="color:green;">My Talk</span>]] 20:07, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
 
:;Oppose
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:::Please note that I've done this per the comments on 2.1 and the list. Would prefer to hold off closing the case to see if anyone feels this needs a revert and an alt. [[User:Courcelles|Courcelles]] 20:47, 24 January 2015 (UTC)
::::While that's resolved, I'm still here until P14 and R1.2 find majority. [[User:Courcelles|Courcelles]] 18:36, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
:#:::::: to let NF vote --[[User:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0b0080;">Guerillero</fontspan>]] &#124; [[User_talk:Guerillero|<fontspan colorstyle="color:green;">My Talk</fontspan>]] 23:56, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
:# Temporary oppose. We are close, but I believe there is a bit more finalization to be done in the next 24 hours or so. [[User:Newyorkbrad|Newyorkbrad]] ([[User talk:Newyorkbrad|talk]]) 02:08, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
:# Per NYB. I want another day to think about it. '''[[User:DGG| DGG]]''' ([[User talk:DGG| talk ]]) 06:25, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
:#: <s>Same here. I haven't really made up my mind on one remedy yet and would like to think about it a little more. <span style="text-shadow:grey 0.118em 0.118em 0.118em;" class="texhtml"> '''[[User:Salvio giuliano|Salvio]]'''</span> [[User talk:Salvio giuliano|<sup>Let's talk about it!</sup>]] 10:20, 26 January 2015 (UTC)</s>
:# Per NYB. '''[[User:LFaraone|L]]<font color="darkgreen">[[User talk:LFaraone|<span style="color:darkgreen;">Faraone]]</fontspan>]]''' 18:06, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
:#:<s> Another day is needed, &nbsp;[[User:Roger Davies|<span style="color:maroon; font-variant:small-caps">'''Roger Davies'''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Roger Davies|''talk'']]</sup> 18:11, 26 January 2015 (UTC)</s>
:# There's still a couple things to work out. [[User:Timotheus Canens|T. Canens]] ([[User talk:Timotheus Canens|talk]]) 18:41, 27 January 2015 (UTC)