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::*Should we just indef? Based on their response to the block there’s clearly going to be no reasoning with them. [[User:Swarm|<span style="color:black">'''~Swarm~'''</span>]] ^{[[User talk:Swarm|<span style="color:DarkViolet">{sting}</span>]]} 23:22, 30 April 2022 (UTC)

:::*That is also acceptable to me. Note, we'd have to do the usual little dance to accommodate the red tape of DS, which allow a year's block maximum (why??): either a year-long block per DS followed by an indef as a regular admin action, or simply the whole indef as a regular admin action. I'd prefer the first-mentioned, to show that several admins are behind the block. [[User:Bishonen|Bishonen]] &#124; [[User talk:Bishonen|tålk]] 08:27, 1 May 2022 (UTC).

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==Shirshore==

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===Request concerning Shirshore===

; User who is submitting this request for enforcement : {{userlinks|Kzl55}} 18:55, 5 May 2022 (UTC)

; User against whom enforcement is requested : {{userlinks|Shirshore}}<p>{{ds/log|Shirshore}}</p>

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#[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Somaliland&diff=prev&oldid=1082411485&diffmode=source 13 April 2022] Shirshore circumventing previous topic ban on [[Horn of Africa]] articles using confirmed sock JohnnyPilger the day after TBAN was confirmed. In this example by blanking a section on an article.

#[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hawiye&diff=prev&oldid=1082816681&diffmode=source 15 April 2022] Confirmed Shireshore sock JohnnyPilger continues to edit on [[Horn of Africa]] articles evading their TBAN.

#[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Isaaq_Sultanate&type=revision&diff=1083825062&oldid=1081831337&diffmode=source 21 April 2022] More blanking of sections using confirmed sock JohnnyPilger.

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#[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement&diff=prev&oldid=1082360053&diffmode=source 12 April 2022] Shirshore indefinitely topic banned from [[Horn of Africa]].

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*Previously given a discretionary sanction for conduct in the area of conflict on [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement&diff=prev&oldid=1082360053&diffmode=source 12 April 2022] by {{admin|Ymblanter}}.

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Following the topic ban of Shirshore last month due to disruptive editing. They have activated sleeper socking account JohnnyPilger (first registered June 2021) to evade the TBAN and continue editing on [[Horn of Africa]] articles, including disruptive blanking of sections as seen in the examples linked above. I have filed an SPI which confirmed their socking, but the closing admin gave a lenient 1 week sanctions. And although the closing admin gave a justification for leniency that would be completely understandable in normal circumstances, in my opinion their decision was limited to the socking activity and did not address the evasion of TBAN and general sanctions, which is why I'm filing this report. Shirshore is clearly not here to build an encyclopedia, they immediately attempted to circumvent their topic ban using a sleeper account that they've already prepared a year ago. As such I believe a [[WP:NOTHERE]] ban justified in this case. More information can be found in the SPI filing [[Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Shirshore]]. Best regards --[[User:Kzl55|Kzl55]] ([[User talk:Kzl55|talk]]) 18:55, 5 May 2022 (UTC)

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===Discussion concerning Shirshore===

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*I don't think there's anything in particular that we need to do here: the sock has been indef blocked and the master blocked for the socking. <b>[[User:Callanecc|Callanecc]]</b> ([[User talk:Callanecc|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Callanecc|contribs]] • [[Special:Log/Callanecc|logs]]) 04:07, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

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==Dyldyl9==

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===Request concerning Dyldyl9===

; User who is submitting this request for enforcement : {{userlinks|Sideswipe9th}} 23:11, 7 May 2022 (UTC)

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;Sanction or remedy to be enforced: [[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/American_politics_2]] and [[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Gender_and_sexuality]]

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#{{diff2|1084122323}} Dyldyl9 refers to teachers in Florida, teaching age appropriate gender and sexuality lessons, as groomers.

#{{diff2|1086707427}} Dyldyl9 refers to people reposted on [[Libs of TikTok]] as paedophiles, and teachers as groomers.

#{{diff2|1086707733}} Dyldyl9 calls into question the [[2021 United States Capitol attack]], and downplays the severity of it by likening it to [[Inauguration_of_Donald_Trump#Protests_and_demonstrations|protests that occured during the 2017 inauguration]].

#{{diff2|1086709166}} Dyldyl9 adds unsourced information, alleging a journalist released the home and business address of the creator of Libs of TikTok.

#{{diff2|1086710930}} Dyldyl9 removes content that has discussed repeatedly on the Libs of TikTok talk page, and has strong consensus based on what sources say about the account.

#{{diff2|1086711857}} Dyldyl9 engages in a mild personal attack against either myself or {{noping|Praxidicae}}.

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#{{diff2|1086712612}} Dyldyl9 was blocked for 72 hours, for an edit war involving diffs 4 and 5.

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* {{diff2|1084380076|GENSEX notice}}

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There are two more diffs I'd like to include, as they demonstrate this behaviour over a substantial period of time, unfortunately they occurred prior to receiving the d/s notices. Although the editor is currently blocked for 72 hours for edit warring, their conduct is below that expected of in a discretionary sanctions topic area, and I suspect this behaviour will continue once the block expires. I don't know if this conduct has reached a level requiring a topic ban, if it has not would a formal warning be appropriate? Also if it's inappropriate to file while the editor is currently blocked for edit warring, I'll happily withdraw it and refile once the block expires. [[User:Sideswipe9th|Sideswipe9th]] ([[User talk:Sideswipe9th|talk]]) 23:11, 7 May 2022 (UTC)

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*Looking at the editing so far I'm leaning more towards an indef NOTHERE block rather than a topic ban. Thoughts from others? <b>[[User:Callanecc|Callanecc]]</b> ([[User talk:Callanecc|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Callanecc|contribs]] • [[Special:Log/Callanecc|logs]]) 04:11, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

*I agree with the NOTHERE recommendation. I took a look at Dyldyl9's contributions and they are largely accusations of bias in various articles. Not helpful and not here. --[[User:RegentsPark|RegentsPark]] <small>([[User talk:RegentsPark|comment]])</small> 14:10, 10 May 2022 (UTC)

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==בר==

{{hat|{{u|בר}} was reminded of (or told about) [[WP:1RR]], which seems to have resolved this matter. [[User:El_C|El_C]] 14:55, 13 May 2022 (UTC)}}

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===Request concerning בר===

; User who is submitting this request for enforcement : {{userlinks|Nableezy}} 19:12, 11 May 2022 (UTC)

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#[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Shireen_Abu_Akleh&diff=prev&oldid=1087312661 18:04, 11 May 2022] revert of [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Shireen_Abu_Akleh&diff=1087307981&oldid=1087307279 this addition]

#[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Shireen_Abu_Akleh&diff=1087315870&oldid=1087315392 18:28, 11 May 2022] revert of [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Shireen_Abu_Akleh&diff=1087315153&oldid=1087312661 this]

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N/A

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*Alerted about discretionary sanctions in the area of conflict in the last twelve months, see the system log linked to above. [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:%D7%91%D7%A8&diff=prev&oldid=1087313532 Here], though the 1RR is a general sanction that does not require awareness

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The user directs others to discuss this material on the talk page despite it already being discussed on the talk page by all users involved except this one (see [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Shireen_Abu_Akleh&oldid=1087319841#Revert here for current state]). User was asked to self-revert, and [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:%D7%91%D7%A8&diff=1087319624&oldid=1087318678 declined to do so].

:I dont think it needs a sanction if the user will self-revert. As of now there is a 1RR violation and a refusal to self-revert. Self-revert and then no issues. <small style="border: 1px solid;padding:1px 3px;white-space:nowrap">'''[[User talk:Nableezy|<span style="color:#C11B17">nableezy</span>]]''' - 19:38, 11 May 2022 (UTC)</small>

:Moot at this point, should just be closed with a reminder imo. <small style="border: 1px solid;padding:1px 3px;white-space:nowrap">'''[[User talk:Nableezy|<span style="color:#C11B17">nableezy</span>]]''' - 14:32, 13 May 2022 (UTC)</small>

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===Discussion concerning בר===

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====Statement by בר====

*::Hey [[User:RegentsPark]],

*::What is a 1RR reminder?

*::As an administrator, I trust your word. I agree that you will restore my edit. But I can't find any earlier discussion about that on the talk page. [[User:בר|ℬ𝒜ℛ]] ([[User talk:בר|talk]]) 19:55, 11 May 2022 (UTC)

*:::Okay I'm very sorry, I was not aware of it. In the Hebrew Wikipedia it works differently. To prove I did not mean to harm, I will simply stop writing in this article. Returning to the previous version is totally fine with me. Sorry again! [[User:בר|ℬ𝒜ℛ]] ([[User talk:בר|talk]]) 20:08, 11 May 2022 (UTC)

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A third editor has now restored the material. Ordinarily for this sort of situation, slap on the wrist, don't do it again would not be out of order. I am a bit unhappy with the tenor of the responses at the user talk page, the edit summaries that were given for the reverts and the user's failure to self revert. [[User:Selfstudier|Selfstudier]] ([[User talk:Selfstudier|talk]]) 22:12, 11 May 2022 (UTC)

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*Yeah, violation. But,... meh... does this really need a sanction? I'd say just remind the editor that 1RR be the rule and move on. --[[User:RegentsPark|RegentsPark]] <small>([[User talk:RegentsPark|comment]])</small> 19:36, 11 May 2022 (UTC)

*:{{ping|Nableezy}}, understood. {{ping|בר}} Would you please self revert? If you do, we can close this with the 1RR reminder, and you can always make your case on the talk page. If you don't, this will definitely begin to be trouble!--[[User:RegentsPark|RegentsPark]] <small>([[User talk:RegentsPark|comment]])</small> 19:46, 11 May 2022 (UTC)

*::{{ping|בר}}When you edit the article, a big yellow box pops up that clearly says you cannot make more than 1 revert in a 24 hour period. Violations of this can lead to topic bans and/or blocks. Apparently, you made 2 of them. If you revert your removal of the content, we won't treat it as a violation. And, no, I won't restore your content. Instead, you should make your case on the talk page for the removal of the content and try to get consensus (read [[WP:CONSENSUS]]). (BTW, you need to reply in your own section, not here) --[[User:RegentsPark|RegentsPark]] <small>([[User talk:RegentsPark|comment]])</small> 20:01, 11 May 2022 (UTC)

*:::{{ping|בר}} You are going to need to self-revert your edit. Nableezy cannot because then it will look like they are violating 1RR. In the interests of ending this, I would do it, but I'm more likely than not to just mess it up. My suggestion is that you do it quickly. Also, please note where I'm moving your comments and make any further comments (unnecessary if you self-revert) there.--[[User:RegentsPark|RegentsPark]] <small>([[User talk:RegentsPark|comment]])</small> 20:37, 11 May 2022 (UTC)

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