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Ti stai riferendo alle trascrizoni in lingua inglese, che seguono tutta una loro logica, adatta a una lingua anglosassone. Esempio: gli inglesi pluralizzano i nomi sanscriti, noi diciamo "i buddha", loro "the buddhas". Siccome nel web il plurale "buddhas" è più diffuso dovremmo cominciare a usarlo anche noi? Risposta: no. In inglese trascrivere Yggdrasill con una elle è corretto, in italiano è errore, nello stesso modo in cui "buddhas" in inglese è corretto e in italiano no, tutto qui.
En.wiki ha raggiunto delle sue conclusioni su molte cose, ma spesso riguardano la lingua inglese che non è quella italiana, che ha già delle sue regole, anche se ormai quasi nessuno manco le conosce... A questo punto, perché non reindirizzare "Italia" a "Italy" o "Roma" a "Rome"? Dopotutto su en.wiki si parla di Italy, non di Italia.--[[Utente:Yupa|Yupa]] 10:08, Lug 27, 2005 (CEST)
 
==Yggdrasill levels==
'''1. Upper or heathen world'''
* [[Asgard]] (Asenheim): Gods dynasty homeland of the [[æsir]]s.
** [[Hlidskjalf]]: High sitting place of Allfather [[Odin]] in [[Valaskjalf]]
** [[Fólkvangr]]is is (Field of folk) and [[valhalla]] (hall for the deaths of honour).
** [[Vingólf]] (About friendly house): Place of [[æsir]]s goddesses.
** [[Bifröst]]: The [[Asgard]] and [[Midgard]] connecting rainbow bridge.
* [[Vanaheimr ]] (Home of [[vanir]]s): Homeland of gods dynasty of the [[vanir]]s.
* [[Alfheimr|Liusalfheim]] (Light world of [[elves]]): Homeland of [[elves]] (light elves).
'''2. Middle or earth world'''
* [[Midgard]] (Middle home land): Homeland of [[human]]s.
* [[Jötunheim]] (Home of giants): Homeland of [[giant]]s.
** [[Utgard]] (About outer world, space outside): Outer world.
* [[Muspelheim]]: Homeland of [[fire giant]]s.
'''3. Under or hell World'''
* [[Svartálfar and Svartálfaheimr]] (black [[elves]] world): Homeland of [[dwarf]] (mythologie)|[[dwarf]]s]] (black [[elves]]).
* [[Niflheim]] (Dark world): Homeland of ice giants, realm of ice, fog and darkness (polar night).
** [[Hvergelmir]] (The brewing kettle): Hell and spring of all rivers.
* [[Hel (being)|Hel]] (About the concealed): Realm of the deaths.
** Under world of the [[æsir]]s at the river Æsir.
** Himthusen (former times [[Ginnungagap]]).
 
==Yggdrasil in fairy tales==
In fairy tales a tree with golden apples, and sometimes even explicitly from the tree of life is the speech: Grimm's Fairy Tales # 17 The White Snake , No. 21 Cinderella , No. 24 Mother Holle , No. 29 The Devil with the Three Golden Hairs , No. 31 The Girl Without Hands , No. 47 from juniper tree , No. 53 Snow White , No. 57 The Golden Bird , No. 88 , the singing springing lark , No. 96 De three Vügelkens , No. 121 The king's son, who afraid of nothing , No. 130 One-Eye, Two-Eyes and Three ; Note to KHM 82 , 125
 
==Modern influence==
[[File:Faroe stamp 431 The Norns and the Tree.jpg|thumb|Norns writing and interacting the fate at yggdrasil tree on [[Färöer]] stamp by [[Anker Eli Petersen]]]]
In modern times, Yggdrasil is sometimes depicted or referenced in modern popular culture.
Yggdrasil also features prominently in [[Marvel Comics]]' ''[[Thor (Marvel Comics)|Thor]]'', where it is depicted as a great, cosmic tree composed of stars, which is bridged via the Bifrost, in this case a half magical, half mechanical means of teleportation. Yggdrasil in this form can also be seen in 2011's [[Thor (film)]], 2013's [[Thor: The Dark World]], and the upcoming 2017 [[Thor: Ragnarok]].
Many fantasy books, films and computer games are inspired by [[german mythology]] and yggdrasil like [[The Lord of the rings]], [[Viking: Battle for Asgard]], [[Yggdrasil Labyrinth]], [[Mana (series)]] and [[Oh My Goddess!]]. [[Ygdrassil (musical group)]], Band Fallen Yggdrasil<ref>http://www.fallen-yggdrasil.de/</ref>, Game Yggdrasil<ref>http://www.spiele-offensive.de/Spiel/Yggdrasil-1010048.html</ref>, The sweden symphonic-metal-band [[therion (band)|Therion]] published 2001 a concert album, with a own song for every of the nine worlds of Yggdrasil.
==See also==
* [[Tree of life]]
* [[World tree]]
* [[Germanic mythology]]
* [[Germanic paganism]]
* [[Modern Paganism]]
* [[Heathenry (new religious movement)]]
* [[Celtic neopaganism]]
* [[Semitic neopaganism]]
* [[Neo-Druidism]]
* [[Wicca]]
* [[Celtic polytheism]]
Symbolic Trees, Wheels etc. Article List
[[Yggdrasil Day#Germanic]] (22 April), [[Mímameiðr]], [[Thor's Oak]], [[Sacred tree at Uppsala]], [[Irminsul]], [[Christmas tree]] ([[Yule]] tree), [[Sephirot]], [[Garden of Eden]], [[Tree of life (biblical)]], [[Tree of life (Quran)]], [[Tree of the knowledge of good and evil]], [[Tree of the Cross]], [[World tree (Hungarian)|világfa]], Ağaç Ana in [[Turkic mythology]], Modun in [[Mongolian mythology]], the [[Oak]] in [[Slavic mythology|Slavic]] and [[Finnish mythology]], Kien-Mu or Jian-Mu in [[Chinese mythology]], [[Tree of Jesse]], [[Ashvattha]], Tree of the [[Hesperides]], [[Simurgh]] (Tree of Life), Holy Tree of Eridu in [[Garden of the gods (Sumerian paradise)]], [[Austras Koks]] (Tree of dawn), [[Maypole]], [[Bodhi Tree]] (Enlightment at view on tree of life and worlds), [[Axis mundi]], [[Bhavacakra]] and [[Mandala]] (Wheel versus tree axis with life and worlds symbolic), [[Mesoamerican world tree]], [[Wacah Chan]] (World tree) and [[Tree of Mana]].
More Yggdrasil Pictures, Music and Videos
* [https://de.images.search.yahoo.com/search/images;_ylt=A9mSs2INI8JWwJQAEGAzCQx.;_ylu=X3oDMTByZmVxM3N0BGNvbG8DaXIyBHBvcwMxBHZ0aWQDBHNlYwNzYw--?p=Yggdrasil+Picture&fr=yfp-t-911 Yggdrasil pictures]
* [https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=yggdrasil Yggdrasil music and videos]
* Yggdrasil symbols, amulets, healing stones, beard pearls etc. at special internet shops [http://www.drachensilber.de/ Drachensilber ] or [https://www.mittelalter-fundgrube.de/ Mittelalterfundgrube]
===Gallery===
<gallery>
File:yggdrasil.jpg|thumb|right|300px|From ''Northern Antiquities'', an English translation of the [[Prose Edda]] from 1847. Painted by Oluf Olufsen Bagge.
File:Dolmatov World tree.png|thumb|right|300px|World tree. Russian ornament. 19th century.
File:Linköpings domkyrka 2012j.JPG|thumb|Linköpings domkyrka. Ljusträd. 22 April 2012
File:Russian World tree original.jpg|thumb|Russian world tree, 17th century
File:Lebensbaum Kruzifix.jpg|thumb|Lebensbaum Kruzifix
File:"Lebensbaum".JPG|thumb|Lebensbaum
File:Lebensbaum, Genien, Nimrud 870 v. Chr. Aegyptisches Museum, Muenchen-2.jpg|thumb|Lebensbaum, den zwei Genien mit Pinienzapfen befruchten, Nimrud, Nordwestpalast des Königs Assurnasirpal II., um 870 v. Chr., Mossulalabaster
File:Eisenerz - Wehrkirche hl Oswald - lutherscher Lebensbaum mit Eule.jpg|thumb|lutherscher Lebensbaum mit Eule
Aachen Rathaus Fresko des Krönungssaales (ZdS).jpg|thumb|Fresko at the Gothic Aachen Rathaus, Interior of Coronation Hall. Titel: "Demolition of Irminsul, the old Saxon great pillar" (device of Charlemagne)
File:NIBHAL7.jpg|humb|:de:Nibelungenhalle|Hall of [[nibelungs]] - Curtain at entry area from August Wilckens: Three norns at the world ash Yggdrasil spinning the threads of fate
File:Nornorna spinner ödets trådar vid Yggdrasil.jpg|The Norns spin their tapestry at the roots of Yggdrasil by [[Urðarbrunnr]]. L. B. Hansen (1893)
File:WhiteTreeofLife2002.jpg|thumb|[[Tree of Life (White)]] by Nancy Metz White, 2002
File:Shaki khan palace interier.jpg|thumb|250px|The Tree of Immortality, [[Palace of Shaki Khans]], [[Azerbaijan]]
File:Hindukailash.JPG|thumb|right|150px|[[Mount Kailash]], depicting the holy family: [[Shiva]] and [[Parvati]], cradling [[Murugan|Skanda]] with [[Ganesha]] by Shiva's side
File:Dolmatov World tree.png|thumb|right|300px|World tree. Russian ornament. 19th century.
File:Yggdrasil - by Jeroen van Valkenburg.PNG|thumb|Yggdrasil, the cosmic tree of the Heathen theology. It is a symbol of the universal spirit of the Deity that pervades all the matter of the cosmos. [http://www.jeroenvanvalkenburg.nl/ Jeroen van Valkenburg] (2005)
File:Holografisches Lichtbild Effektbeispiel Ungarischer Goldener Lebensbaum.jpg|thumb|Holographic Lightpainting": Smoenjala's painting "Golden Lifetree" in different lighting conditions, 2014
File:IranTaqIBustanLebensbaum.jpg|thumb|Taq-i-Bustan, [[sassanian]] life tree
File:Klimt - Werkvorlage zum Stocletfries - Der Lebensbaum3.jpg |thumb|Tree of life, [[Gustav Klimt]] (1862-1918)
File:Teppich-Museum Oelsnitz 05.jpg|thumb|Life tree tapestry [http://www.schloss-voigtsberg.de/museen/teppichmuseum.html Teppich-Museum Schloss Voigtsberg (1920)]
File:KaratepeMuseum.jpg|thumb|Orthostat from Domuztepe, museum Karatepe near Osmaniye, south turkey
File:Breinig-St.Barbara277.JPG|thumb|Lead glas window in side ship of catholic church from Clemens Winkhold (1888)
File:TreeOfLive wNo.png|thumb|[[Tree of life (Kabbalah)]] with numbers for [[sephirot]] and paths
File:2011-07-22-115014 - Val Lumnezia - Tal des Lichtes - Kirche in Lumbrein.jpg|thumb|Life tree Baselgia catolica Sogn Martin
File:GS Keltenbaum02.jpg|thumb|Life tree self made by celts
File:Russian World tree.gif|thumb|Russian wolrd tree (17th century) [http://www.booksite.ru/enciklopedia/faith/index.htm russian encyclopedia]
File:Concordienkirche Mannheim 03.jpg|thumb|Yggdrasil Event in so called Odin`s Church without fixed christian symbolic just [[irminsul]] pillars and on top Odin`s cross window in city [[Mannheim]], Germany
File:Norse cosmology.svg|thumb|Norse cosmology
</gallery>
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==Ricercando la voce==
Riga 145 ⟶ 64:
x Moroboshi: era appunto quello che stavo proponendo. Faccio comunque notare che, a parte forse i soli tre casi di Odino, Thor e Ragnarok, tutti gli altri termini norreni non hanno un corrispondente italiano semplificato. "Thor ("Þórr" in norreno)" quindi direi che va bene, ma in altri casi io preferirei tenere le voci sotto le trascrizioni corrette e, per favorire la leggibilità fare ad esempio così: "Níðhöggr (pronuncia approssimativa: Niidhogg; significato: "colui che colpisce con odio")". Magari si potrebbe fare anche una voce apposita tipo [[pronuncia dell'antico norreno]]...
 
Riguardo al giapponese, da quel che so io il metodo di trascrizione più usato internazionalmente è lo Hepburn, seguito a dal Kunrei. Poi, ovviamente, un po' dappertutto, specie in rete, molti trascrivono un po' a modo loro... ^^''
 
x Helios: ho diversi volumi sui miti norreni, ma quello con le trascrizioni più corrette (ineccepibili, direi) è "I miti nordici" di Gianna Chiesa Isnardi: vedi [http://www.internetbookshop.it/ser/serdsp.asp?shop=1&c=XSVSTXQPSQGCN qui]. Mi pare però attualmente sia fuori commercio...
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