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[[Image:Fire_emblem_noken.jpg|thumb|250px|Eliwood, Hector and Lyn from ''Fire Emblem (Game Boy Advance)'', the first ''Fire Emblem'' to be released internationally.]]
==External Link to vandalism site==
You caused vandalism to the vandalism page by calling a revelent link "Spam" There are presently no external links on the vandalism page. The link is certainly not spam. It is relevant and is about vandalism. I went back and fixed the link you deleted.
 
{{nihongo|'''''Fire Emblem'''''|ファイアーエムブレム|Faiā Emuburemu}} is a popular [[strategy game|strategy]]/[[computer role-playing games|role-playing]] [[video game]] franchise developed by [[Intelligent Systems|Intelligent Systems Co., Ltd.]] (specifically [[Shouzou Kaga]]), the makers of [[Nintendo Wars#Advance Wars|Advance Wars]], and published by [[Nintendo Co., Ltd.]]. The ''Fire Emblem'' games are known to be the first of their genre, the [[strategic role-playing game]], with a very strong emphasis on western forms of medieval folklore.
== [[User:203.121.0.16]] ==
* ([[User:203.121.0.16]] | [[User_talk:203.121.0.16|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/203.121.0.16|contributions]])
 
The series currently spans ten games, and has graced the [[Famicom]], [[Super Famicom]], [[Game Boy Advance]], [[GameCube]] and [[Wii]]. [[Fire Emblem: The Goddess of Dawn|The most recent title in the series]] was first released in Japan on February 22, 2007. A North American release is expected to follow at an undisclosed date in 2007.
Hi, I'm new to Wikipedia. I've tried to draw attention to this user who seems to spend their time radomly vandalism various articles on the Vandalism in Progress page but nothing seems to have been done about them. So, I thought I should draw attention to this person to a more experienced user. Thanks.
 
==International release==
== Re: John Kerry - are you kiding? ==
Since its inception in 1990, the ''Fire Emblem'' series was formerly confined to Japan. In 2001, Nintendo released ''[[Super Smash Bros. Melee]]'', a fighting game starring characters from games produced throughout the company's history. The Japanese release of the game contained two characters from the ''Fire Emblem'' series; Marth, the original protagonist in the series, starred in ''Fire Emblem: Ankoku no Ryū to Hikari no Tsurugi'', and ''Fire Emblem: Monshō no Nazo'', and Roy starred in the then-unreleased sixth game, ''Fire Emblem: Fūin no Tsurugi''. According to Nintendo's official Japanese website, Marth was put in ''Super Smash Bros. Melee'' upon the request of Japanese gamers. Marth's design and playability earned him extra attention while the game underwent debug testing in North America, and it was by the decision of Nintendo of America that he was included in the North American version. Roy had been included in Japan to promote the upcoming release of ''Fūin no Tsurugi'', and was likewise included in the North American version. It was due in part to Marth and Roy's popularity from their appearance in ''SSBM'' that Nintendo eventually decided to localize and market ''Fire Emblem'' games for North American and European release.
 
''[[Fire Emblem: Rekka no Ken]]'', the seventh title in the series, became the first to see an international release in 2003. Released outside of Japan simply as ''Fire Emblem'', the game was designed specifically with newcomers to the series in mind, and the first ten chapters were structured in a manner that eased newcomers into the gameplay. All ''Fire Emblem'' titles produced since have also seen international release.
I have been dialoging for days, with a rotating group of mostly pro-Kerry POV'ers who simply clam up and refuse to answer when true facts they don't like are dropped in their lap.
Now, all of a sudden, you re-protect Kerry?
This is just like last time - you guys put what you wanted in and then locked the page
What a farce!
 
==Gameplay==
PS: Tha butterfly image on your page is very nice, where did you get it?
===Basics===
[[User:Rex071404|Rex071404]] 07:04, 1 Aug 2004 (UTC)
[[Image:Thracia776Screencap.png|thumb|right|Game-play map screen from ''Fire Emblem: Thracia 776''.]]
''Fire Emblem'' is a series of [[turn-based]] strategy games that involve moving units through a map grid in order to defeat the opposition and eventually complete a mission objective, such as seizing a base, surviving for a number of turns, or defeating a boss. The combat system bases itself on a [[rock-paper-scissors]] method of fighting, as each weapon type has both an advantage and a disadvantage against other types. From ''Fire Emblem: Seisen no Keifu'' to the most recent game ''[[Fire Emblem: Akatsuki no Megami]]'', the weapon triangle has been [[lance]] beats [[sword]], sword beats [[axe]], and axe beats lance. Bows are unaffected by the triangle and can do higher amounts of damage against flying units, but this is offset by the bow-wielder's inability to counter-attack direct melee strikes.
 
A similar [[Magic in the Fire Emblem series|triangle for magic]], that varies from game to game, has also existed. The basic triangles of magic are light beats dark, dark beats anima, and anima beats light. In other games, fire beats wind, wind beats thunder and thunder beats fire. Magic is also unique in that magical attacks can be used from either a distance or in melee range.
:Your protection of the [[John Kerry]] article was quite correct, for the reasons you stated. Nevertheless, we're left in the same unpromising situation that's plagued us for several days. I realize that you didn't volunteer to make a major effort to resolve the problem, but, while your attention is on the page, do you have any suggestion about how to proceed? A Request for Comment brought in a few new participants but no resolution. A Request for Mediation was declined (with some ensuing dispute about ''that'' statement; nothing on this article comes easily). I'm left feeling very frustrated, and I'm obviously not the only one. (That might be one of the few points on which [[User:Rex071404|Rex071404]] and I agree.) [[User:JamesMLane|JamesMLane]] 08:16, 1 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 
===Units and relationships===
:Thanks for your sincere response to my query. My current solution is that all United States citizens and permanent resident aliens will be barred from editing the page. We'll leave it to you foreigners to work out. :) [[User:JamesMLane|JamesMLane]] 09:08, 1 Aug 2004 (UTC)
Unlike ''Advance Wars'' and other tactical RPGs such as ''[[Final Fantasy Tactics]]'', player-generated units are absent. Instead, ''Fire Emblem'' utilizes a distinct cast of characters, each belonging to one of many [[character classes]]. Unlike most strategy games, each unit has a personality and past of its own. Money is used to buy better weapons and various items, and using units in battle will allow them to gain [[experience points]]; a character's level will increase upon gaining one hundred experience points. Leveling party members up can be a challenge, as many newly recruited units arrive with inferior levels and statistics, but because the amount of experience earned from defeating an enemy is determined by the level discrepancy between the battling units, a characters at lower levels earn more experience than more experienced characters when defeating enemies of comparable level.
 
Depending on the mechanics of the particular game, characters may change classes upon reaching a certain level, or through the use of a special item that will force a unit's promotion. Characters that change class receive a one-time statistics upgrade that is higher than the average leveling upgrade and additional abilities that are standards of the higher-tier classes. For instance, a cavalier in ''Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance'' will change classes automatically after earning enough experience to advance to level 21, becoming a level 1 paladin, will become capable of moving greaters distances in a single turn, and will become able to wield two kinds of weapons.
== I have not refused mediation on [[John Kerry]], rather the issue is not ripe for that yet as I am still trying to dialog ==
 
Typically, the size of the player's character roster is very small at the beginning of each game, but as progress is made, other units may join the player's party through story events or through actions taken. The latter games in the series typically contain playable rosters between thirty and fifty characters deep.
I am still 100% ready, willing and able to continue to engage in contructive dialog. Notice my discussion about the Ortgea section which occured immediately after last night's re-protect of Kerry. It is ovious on the face off it that I am willing to dialog and compromise. It is the others who will not. [[User:Rex071404|Rex071404]] 16:41, 1 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 
[[Romantic love|Romance]] and friendship are prevalent themes throughout the ''Fire Emblem'' series. Starting from the sixth game, ''Fuuin no Tsurugi'', this characteristic has been further emphasized in the gameplay itself through the use of support conversations. In the GBA ''Fire Emblem'' titles, these conversations could be triggered by having specific pairs of characters end their turns standing next to each other. After a specific number of turns have accumulated, the player is given the option to view a support conversation between the two characters. ''Path of Radiance'' simplified the approach by requiring characters to be in a certain number of battles together and not necessarily adjacent to one another. Each time a pair of characters engage in a support conversation, their affinity towards each other will increase, giving them statistical bonuses that activate any time the characters are next to each other on the battlefield. If two characters with a mutual romantic attraction, strong friendship, or other form of mutual connection engage in three Supports throughout the game, the result will often affect the game's ending. Depending on the characters involved, such results could include marriage, a deepening of friendship, or a continued pursuit of their continuing relationship.
== Reverting My User Page ==
 
===Death===
Thanks for reverting my userpage, but I ws right, CoolDude is back, and he vandalised my user page before as 216.186.33.4 so this isn't new.--[[User:Ryan524|Ryan B.]] ([[User talk:Ryan524|Talk]], [[Special:Contributions/Ryan524|contributions]])[[main_page| ]] 09:36, 4 Aug 2004 (UTC)
''Fire Emblem'' characters that run out of hit points and die cannot be brought back to life in game. This also affects recruitable NPC and enemy units. If a player wishes to continue using a character or recruit a unit that has been killed, then the chapter must be restarted from the beginning. In addition, a "Game Over" occurs whenever one of the main characters (Lords) falls, or in other situations depending on a mission's requirements. Only under special circumstances, such as being significantly related to the story, will characters who have fallen in battle not actually die. In extremely rare situations, such as in ''Fire Emblem: Seisen no Keifu'', ''Fire Emblem: The Sacred Stones'', and ''Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance'', characters that fall in battle can become playable at a later point in the game. Exceptions aside, there is normally no method for restoring a fallen character's life, such as a particular spell or scroll. When there is one, it rarely occurs and breaks with only one use.
 
{{Fire Emblem characters}}
==Chat==
 
==Naming of the series==
Come to chat. [[User:TheCustomOfLife|Mike H]] 02:04, Aug 6, 2004 (UTC)
The "Fire Emblem" to which the games' title refers is a plot device or item that has taken multiple forms throughout the series, changing with the setting. The original Fire Emblem was a [[shield]] which allowed the wielder, [[Marth (Fire Emblem)|Marth]], to use the [[Falchion]] sword. In the remake of the original game in ''Monshō no Nazo'', the Fire Emblem can be used by Marth to open chests and can be upgraded with five orbs to turn it into the [[Shield of Seals]] in Book two. In ''Rekka no Ken'' and ''Fūin no Tsurugi'', the Fire Emblem is a gemstone required for a ceremony to recognize the heir to the throne of Bern. It is also used to unlock the Sword of Seals. In ''The Sacred Stones'', the Fire Emblem is the Sacred Stone of Grado, which holds the Demon King's spirit, but it is split in two (the other half forms the Dark Stone), and the Fire Emblem is crushed. In ''Path of Radiance'', it was another name for Lehran's Medallion, an artifact containing the imprisoned spirit of an evil god. In ''Seisen no Keifu'', it does not appear, but it is mentioned as the family crest of the Velthomer house by the person succeeding it. But, it was also hinted to be one of the twelve holy weapons in the game.
 
==Games==
Don't mind if I do. Though I'm having problems finding y'all. Don't know a nick to recognize ya' by. [[User:Methylsoy|Methylsoy]] 04:33, Aug 09, 2004 (EST)
 
The following is a list of games released in the series.
== Re: "arbitration/Rex071404" ==
 
:''Games predating ''Rekka no Ken'' were released only in Japan. Due to this, there are no official English language titles for these games. An official English language title may be given if Nintendo of America elects to localize any of these games to North America.''
Please take note, yesterday, I posted my version of the facts on this issue as per the page's instructions: "If you disagree with some evidence you see here, please provide counter-evidence, or an explanation of why the evidence is misleading. Please do this under a seperate header, to seperate your response from the original evidence."
 
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However, tonight, [[User:Neutrality|Neutrality]] has twice deleted my statement from that page and instead moved it to the "discussion" page.
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!Cover !! Official Western title !! Japanese title !! Japanese Title Translation !!Platform !! Year !!Notes
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|ファイアーエムブレム 暗黒竜と光の剣 <p>(''[[Fire Emblem: Ankoku Ryū to Hikari no Tsurugi]]'')
|''The Dark Dragon and Sword of Light''
|[[Famicom]]
|[[1990]]
|The first ''Fire Emblem'' title.
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|style="align:center"|[[Image:Fe2box.jpg|100px]]
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|ファイアーエムブレム外伝 <p>(''[[Fire Emblem Gaiden]]'')
|''Sidestory''
|[[Famicom]]
|[[1991]]
|Side story of the first title.
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|style="align:center"|[[Image:Fe3box.jpg|100px]]
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|ファイアーエムブレム 紋章の謎 <p>(''[[Fire Emblem: Monshō no Nazo]]'')
|''Mystery of the Emblem''
|[[Super Nintendo Entertainment System|Super Famicom]]
|[[1993]]
|Enhanced remake of the ''Dark Dragon and Sword of Light'' along with sequel. It was adapted into a 2-part [[OVA]] series. In the English translated credits it says the show was based on "Fire Emblem: Secret of Crest" instead of "Mystery of the Emblem".
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|style="align:center"|[[Image:Seisen no Keifu.jpg|100px]]
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|ファイアーエムブレム 聖戦の系譜 <p>(''[[Fire Emblem: Seisen no Keifu]]'')
|''Genealogy of <br />the Holy War''
|[[Super Nintendo Entertainment System|Super Famicom]]
|[[1996]]
|The first ''Fire Emblem'' title set in a separate universe. Deviates from standard ''Fire Emblem'' gameplay mechanisms.
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|style="align:center"|[[Image:Fe5box.jpg|100px]]
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|ファイアーエムブレム トラキア776 <p>(''[[Fire Emblem: Thracia 776]]'')
|''Fire Emblem: Thracia 776''
|[[Super Nintendo Entertainment System|Super Famicom]]
|[[Nintendo Power (cartridge)|Nintendo Power]]: [[1999]] <p> Commercial release: [[2000]]
|A sidestory of ''Seisen no Keifu''. The last commercial release of the Super Famicom.
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|style="align:center"|[[Image:Fuuin no Tsurugi.jpg|100px]]
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|ファイアーエムブレム 封印の剣 <p>(''[[Fire Emblem: Fūin no Tsurugi]]'')
|''Sword of Seals''
|[[Game Boy Advance]]
|[[2002]]
|The first ''Fire Emblem'' title to appear on a Nintendo [[handheld]].
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|style="align:center"|[[Image:GBA Fire Emblem Box.jpg|100px]]
|''[[Fire Emblem (Game Boy Advance)|Fire Emblem]]''
|ファイアーエムブレム 烈火の剣 <p>(''Fire Emblem: Rekka no Ken'')
|''Sword of Fire''
|[[Game Boy Advance]]
|[[2003]]
|The first ''Fire Emblem'' title to be released in the West and the prequel to ''Sword of Seals''.
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|style="align:center"|[[Image:Fire Emblem The Sacred Stones.JPG|100px]]
|''[[Fire Emblem: The Sacred Stones]]''
|ファイアーエムブレム 聖魔の光石 <p>(''Fire Emblem: Seima no Kōseki'')
|''The Stones of Saintly and Demonic Light''
|[[Game Boy Advance]]
|Japan: [[2004]] US: [[2005]]
|First title to incorporate several play mechanics not seen since ''Fire Emblem Gaiden''.
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|style="align:center"|[[Image:Fire Emblem PoR Boxart.JPG|100px]]
|''[[Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance]]''
|ファイアーエムブレム 蒼炎の軌跡<p> (''Fire Emblem: Sōen no Kiseki'')
|''Trail of the Blue Flame''
|[[Nintendo Gamecube]]
|[[2005]]
|The first title in the series to be rendered in [[3D computer graphics|three-dimensions]] and to incorporate [[full motion video]].
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|style="align:center"|[[Image:Fire Emblem Goddess of the Dawn Japanese Boxart.jpg|100px]]
|''(Has yet to be officially titled worldwide)
|ファイアーエムブレム 暁の女神 <p> (''Fire Emblem: Akatsuki no Megami'')
|''[[Fire Emblem: The Goddess of Dawn|Goddess of Dawn]]'' <ref>{{cite web|title=Fire Emblem: The Goddess of Dawn (Wii)|url=http://www.1up.com/do/previewPage?cId=3153633|accessdate=2007-02-26|last=Kennedy|first=Sam|date=[[2006-09-14]]|publisher=[[1UP.com]]}}</ref>
|[[Wii]]
|[[2007]]
|The sequel to ''Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance''.
|}
 
==Music==
I am trying my best to defuse the tense dynamic between Neutrality an myself, but I am at a loss as to what to do.
The musical scores for ''Fire Emblem'' have been composed by [[Yuka Tsujiyoko]] for most of the series' history. ''Fire Emblem: The Sacred Stones'' was scored by Saki Haruyama, Yoshihiko Kitamura, and Yoshito Hirano, under Tsujiyoko's supervision. The first eight games in the series all featured soundtracks composed entirely of instrumental music. However, ''[[Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance]]'' broke from this trend with the end credit theme "Life Returns", a lyrical piece sung in the language of the fictional heron laguz tribe.
 
There are also recurring tracks in the Fire Emblem series. The most frequently used is the "Fire Emblem Main Theme" which is played at some point during each game. Its use is particularly varied, as it is sometimes used as the title screen theme, while in ''Path of Radiance'', the song isn't heard until the very end of the game, when each character's performance is ranked. Another track that is frequently remixed is a character recruitment theme entitled "Together We Ride," although it is not used in every game. Since ''[[Fire Emblem: Seisen no Keifu]]'', battle themes of previous Fire Emblem games have been remixed as arena battle themes. Similar rearranging appears in other circumstances, as well; for example, the musical score for the trial maps in ''Path of Radiance'' was originally the music score for Chapter 10 of ''Seisen no Keifu''.
For example, Neutrality is again jumping all over my edits on [[John Kerry]] and deleted/reversed me me multiple times tonight wihtout discussion. I have left copious notes on that talk page explaining my edits, but Neutrality dos not dialog with me.
 
==Other media==
I really would appreciate some guidedance on getting Neutrality to give me some breathing room.
 
*In [[1995]], an [[anime]] [[OVA]] (co-produced with [[KSS (company)|KSS]]) was produced and released; it was closely based on the first three acts of the very first game in the series or more specifically, the remake contained in ''Monshō no Nazo''. See also ''[[Fire Emblem (anime)]]''.
Also, please take note, although I am feeling very pressed againg by Neutrality, I am not reverting to my intial method of snide commentary.
 
*Fire Emblem The Best Volume One was a video game music sound-track released on April 25, 1997 by Nintendo corporation (serial# PSCN-5058~9).
Since Snowspinner chastized me several days ago with a 24hr ban, I have reconsidered and am avoiding harsh statements. That being the case, when can I expect Neutrality to be advised to leave me be and not be so agressive to me? [[User:Rex071404|Rex071404]] 02:19, 11 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 
==Message meTrivia==
*A title listed as "AKANEIA" in the debug mode of ''Super Smash Bros. Melee'' suggests that an arena based upon ''Fire Emblem'' was under development, but no real map data exists and players often end up fighting against Marth and Roy in Hyrule Temple. If Marth is unlocked and all human players hold either L or R while selecting Hyrule Temple, a remixed version of Fire Emblem's main theme and the recruiting theme will play instead of its original music. The song may also play randomly if Marth is unlocked.
 
*In another Intelligent Systems game, ''[[Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door]]'', there is a minor character in Petalburg that raves about his favorite video games when spoken to. The first game he talks about is ''[[Fire Emblem: Rekka no Ken|Fire Emblem]]''.
If you see this AT ALL today, message me ASAP. I'm leaving for Tampa tomorrow. [[User:TheCustomOfLife|Mike H]] 14:58, Aug 11, 2004 (UTC)
 
*''[[Fire Emblem: Monshou no Nazo]]'' is the only Fire Emblem game to appear in [[Famitsu]]'s 2006 Top one hundred games list. Famitsu readers voted it the number sixty-eighth game of all time. It was also among the first titles released as a Virtual Console title at the launch of the Japanese region Wii Shop Channel.
:I found out that we are leaving on Friday after all, but still, IM me and email me when you get this. Get on chat if it's before 9:30 Central. [[User:TheCustomOfLife|Mike H]] 02:05, Aug 12, 2004 (UTC)
 
*The Nintendo DS game ''[[Daigasso! Band-Brothers]]'' features the Fire Emblem theme as a song.
==Vandals on the loose==
Looks like the vandals got here before you did - both here and your userpage were hit. They've been reverted; check out the hist for details. -- [[User:Grunt|Grunt]] [[User_talk:Grunt|(talk)]] 01:16, 2004 Aug 13 (UTC)
 
*Fire Emblem characters are usually [[right-handed]]. One exception is that Sothe from ''Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance'' and ''Fire Emblem: The Goddess of Dawn'' is [[left-handed]], according to the official artwork.{{Fact|date=February 2007}}
== Thanks ==
 
*A red-headed girl named Anna makes appearances in numerous games in the series. Although she isn't an actual member of any ''Fire Emblem'' cast, she generally appears in games when the player is about to suspend game data or serves as the tutorial narratress.
I appreciate your quick response to vandalism of my userpage! - [[User:Ta bu shi da yu|Ta bu shi da yu]] 10:07, 14 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 
==See More thanks also==
 
*[[List of character classes#Fire Emblem|List of character classes]]
Thanks for coming to my aid when my [[User_Talk:Heron|Talk]] page got visited by [[User:Ghitis|Ghitis]] yesterday. I think I'll just ignore him, but if he comes back, I'll list him on [[Wikipedia:Requests for Comment]]. -- [[User:Heron|Heron]] 19:23, 14 Aug 2004 (UTC)
*[[Table of Fire Emblem characters]]
*[[Fan translation]]
*[[Nintendo Wars]]
*[[Tear Ring Saga]]
 
== There Reverts References==
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==External links==
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*[http://www.fire-emblem.com Official US ''Fire Emblem'' website]
*[http://www.intsys.co.jp/game/fe/index.html Intelligent Systems' official ''Fire Emblem'' website (Japanese)]
*[http://www.nintendo.co.jp/fe/index.html Nintendo of Japan's official ''Fire Emblem'' website (Japanese)]
*[http://eg.nttpub.co.jp/fe/ Official Trading Card Game website (Japanese)]
*{{moby game|id=-group/fire-emblem-series|name=The ''Fire Emblem'' series}}
*[http://eaichu250.superbusnet.com/ English Fire Emblem Documentary]
 
{{Fire Emblem}}
I'm starting to think it'd be a nice idea for levels of 'protection'... I'll outline my thoughts on the pump in a few mins. --[[User:The Inedible Bulk|TIB]] 20:38, Aug 15, 2004 (UTC)
 
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== Barnstar ==
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I'm awarding you a barnstar for your repeated, and rapid, dealing with vandalism. [[Image:Barnstar.png]]. [[User:RickK|Rick]][[User talk:RickK|K]] 06:42, Aug 16, 2004 (UTC)
 
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== Your vote needed at [[George_W._Bush]] ==
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Please go [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:George_W._Bush#Bush.27s_purchase_of_Texas_Rangers here], ASAP and vote.
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==Tampa==
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I am now in Tampa, but ethernet access is not available at my dorm yet. I hope to be up and running in two days at most. An email, hopefully, is forthcoming. If it does not arrive, please understand my predicament. [[User:131.247.44.195|131.247.44.195]] 17:13, 16 Aug 2004 (UTC)
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==please stop blocking me==
 
For the second consecutive day, I've been blocked by you. As a sysop myself, I can unblock but iT's a nuisance to have to do so. I assume it's happening because my ISP uses dynamic addresses, so I don't know quite what the answer is. [[User:Jimfbleak|jimfbleak]] 05:34, 17 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 
== Hadal, You Need to Limit Your Policing Activities So That They Don't Detract from Wikipedia ==
 
I posted an external link to the Workers' Compensation article on Wikipedia. The link I posted, [http://www.ashcraftandgerel.com/workcomp.html Workers' Compensation Claims,]was well written, much more comprehensive than the Wikipedia article itself, and in general a much better resource. You deleted it. You did this on several other External links I added to various articles on legal subjects. Wikipedia's articles on legal issues are often inadequate, and to the extent that high quality external links can be added, it helps Wikipedia. Your contributions to Wikipedia are certainly valuable, but if you start flexing your muscles just for the sake of showing that you can or for whatever other reasons you may have, you'll be hurting Wikipedia. That external link should not have been removed. It's not worth fighting over, but in this instance and others, you have done Wikipedia a disservice.
 
:[[Wikipedia is not]] merely a repository of external links, especially not commercial ones. What you were doing was simply spamming (you can deny an affiliation with ashcraftandgerel.com, but let's just say I'm skeptical). If the information provided in the link is so grand, why not import it into the Wikipedia articles (in your own words, if the text isn't yours to release under the [[GFDL]])? External links aren't what I call contributions; more often than not they're just self-promotion. -- [[User:Hadal|Hadal]] 17:31, 17 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 
:You might concern yourself with actually creating useful articles instead of attacking one of the best vandal-policing sysops we have on Wikipedia. [[User:RickK|Rick]][[User talk:RickK|K]] 23:38, Aug 17, 2004 (UTC)
 
I see. So we have a little clique here, and that seems to be your primary concern, rather than making sure Wikipedia is not being dumbed down by the authoritarianism of an individual. The articles to which I linked were clearly superior to Wikipedia's articles, but what is equally clear is that had I simply substituted the entire articles, rather than simply linking to them, Hadal would have deleted the substituted articles, using as the reason that they were from a commercial site or some such other excuse. Now, Wikipedia is left with the inferior articles and no links. Way to go guys.
 
===In reply to your blocking message===
[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:204.193.6.90 Your Message]
While it seems from the above objection and others that this is not the first time you have done a powerplay 'vandalism' reversal, I would say that the piece of information I added to the page you say I vandalized was a suggestion for improvement of the content of that page (a fairly benign one at that, not even mildly controversial), not vandalism - since that was my first attempt at wikipedia, needless to say this sours my impression of this apparently heavily 'moderated' (read censored) publication. Nice work Hadal! And may I say it is very handy that you don't have a way to contact you anywhere on the warning page! Then I could tell you offline what I really think instead of having to be polite here.
*"Powerplay?" "Censored?" Who do you think you're fooling? How is an edit like [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=New_York_City&diff=0&oldid=6017153 this] NOT vandalism? --[[User:Ardonik|Ardonik]].[[User talk:Ardonik|talk()]][[User:Ardonik/I ate my cat|<sup>*</sup>]] 18:09, Sep 20, 2004 (UTC)
*Indeed. If you consider your edits to be "suggestion[s] for improvement", then I have only one thing to say: Wikipedia has no need for your brand of "suggestion". Good day. -- [[User:Hadal|Hadal]] 18:14, 20 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 
**Hmm, well that's not my edit..would agree that that is vandalism - I may give you a second chance and sign up with a uid so I don't get your nasty messages to other people, unfortunately I don't remember which piece I edited but it was basically 'a link to such and such related concept would be nice here' because at the time I didn't know how to do that (have since gotten a demo from my friend on how to edit - so you can remove this whole paragraph at your leisure, though given the company I work at is highly ethical, I am disappointed to think someone else at this ip posted that. Nice responsiveness though, do you get notifications when a page changes?
 
:::Yes, [[Wikipedia:Why create an account?|creating an account]] is recommended if only to prevent misunderstandings like this (you also get other features not available to an anon editor; check that link to learn more). To answer your question, not exactly: all edits (however minor) are listed at [[Special:Recentchanges|Recent Changes]]. From there, users can check the differences (diffs) relatively easily and revert bad edits. With enough people watching, vandalism is usuually caught rather quickly.
 
:::I hope this hasn't soured your perception of Wikipedia. I was merely trying to do my part in fighting vandalism: the warning you received was obviously not meant for you. -- [[User:Hadal|Hadal]] 18:31, 20 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 
**Since we go through a proxy server here that IP either belongs to us (fixed) or is a ISP IP block. I will find out from our sys admin whether that is our ip and if so he should be able to tell me who was responsible for that post (I hope a recent conference delegate and not one of our staff). If it was a staff member I am certain this will be dealt with swiftly.
 
**also, as a suggestion, including the edited snippet in the warning message when issuing warnings to IP addresses would help a user determine whether or not the warning is directed at them (as I made an edit about a week ago, I assumed it was mine).
 
== Tomé José de Barros Queirós ==
 
Why did you redirect [[Tomé José de Barros Queirós]] to [[Wikipedia:How to edit a page]]? --[[User:Diberri|Diberri]] | [[User talk:Diberri|Talk]] 16:50, Aug 17, 2004 (UTC)
 
: Silly me. At first I figured you had moved the page rather than redirecting it, but when I checked the source I saw <tt><nowiki>#redirect [[Wikipedia:How to edit a page]]</nowiki></tt> -- the <tt>#redirect</tt> in lowercase gave me the impression that this was a manual job. (I had previously thought that when moving a page, the software changes the old page to <tt><nowiki>#REDIRECT [[...]]</nowiki></tt>, with all capital letters.) In any case, I was just curious :-) Thanks for the clarification. --[[User:Diberri|Diberri]] | [[User talk:Diberri|Talk]] 17:33, Aug 17, 2004 (UTC)
 
== [[Template:Test]] ==
 
Hi Hadal -- just out of curiosity, what wasn't working? When I tried it it seemed to be fine. Thanks, [[User:Bcorr|BCorr]]<font color=chartreuse>|</font>[[User talk:Bcorr|&#1041;&#1088;&#1072;&#1081;&#1077;&#1085;]] 16:47, 18 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 
== Deleting Wikipedia Admin Hypocrisy article ==
 
I was told if there was a factual basis for writing an article (like the horrific GNAA article) that it should be rewritten. Now we have admins abusing their power to delete anything against them. This is precisely why people don't trust the admins or the site itself.
 
:Rather than repeat myself, I'll just point you back to [[User talk:209.11.41.18]] so you can re-read my comments carefully. Also, please realise that Wikipedia editors are generally brighter than the average bunch, so we won't be falling for your duplicity and cries of censorship. If you want to make a complaint against an administrator, there are proper channels available to do so; creating a rant article is ''not'' one of those channels. -- [[User:Hadal|Hadal]] 17:02, 18 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 
== "Infinate" Justice ==
 
I *reluctantly* unblocked this user. Policy calls for an initial block of 24 hours. His edits are annoying but fall short of outright vandalism. If even a 24 hour block is appropriate, it should be combined with trying to engage the user, as we've done with others. Later the block can be made longer if necessary. -- [[User:Cecropia|Cecropia]] | [[User talk:Cecropia|Talk]] 17:17, 18 Aug 2004 (UTC)
:You'll have to describe the image for me. I'm not picking up images from Wikipedia on my browsers. -- [[User:Cecropia|Cecropia]] | [[User talk:Cecropia|Talk]] 17:24, 18 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 
==[[User:38.115.7.18]]==
Hi Hadal, thanks for rolling back this annoying user's edits. I've blocked him after not heeding your warning. From the user's contributions, it was obvious that he was working from an alphabetic list (evidenced by the fact that [[arterial hypertension]] was vandalised, because [[hypertension]] is a disambig). This stuff happens on a daily basis on medical articles; I hope this editor stays away. [[User:Jfdwolff|JFW]]&nbsp;|&nbsp;[[User_talk:Jfdwolff|<small>T@lk</small>]] 21:54, 18 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 
==Email==
 
E-mail me. See my user page for update. [[User:TheCustomOfLife|Mike H]] 06:31, Aug 20, 2004 (UTC)
 
==You're Welcome, re: Sancy==
Thanks for noticing my edits to the [[Sancy]] article -- you're quite welcome. (Some fun research, too.) Happy to help wherever I can.... [[User:CatherineMunro|Catherine]] | [[User_talk:CatherineMunro|talk]] 01:44, 21 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 
== Wikipedia Dynamic IP Bug ==
Hi Hadal, In reference to [[User talk:195.93.34.9]], I understand the need to police anonymous users but please be aware of [http://bugzilla.wikipedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26 this bug in Wikipedia]. I regularly get new message notifications for random IP addresses even though my IP address is always correctly detected when I post or update. When this occurs, the resulting thread is always full of confused anonymous users shocked that they're being accused of something they did not do.--[[User:218.50.191.197|218.50.191.197]] 11:21, 23 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 
==Chat==
 
I need to speak with you. [[User:TheCustomOfLife|Mike H]] 02:43, Aug 25, 2004 (UTC)
 
:Again. [[User:TheCustomOfLife|Mike H]] 18:42, Aug 26, 2004 (UTC)
 
== Genocide Revert ==
 
I didn't see that only the maps were public ___domain from http://www.wesleyjohnston.com/, sorry.
 
== Someone is fooling with [[2004]] again ==
 
Gidday! I see you gave someone the "first warning" (ie "go and play in the sandbox") message a few days ago. He or she was at it again with [[2004]] about 40 minutes ago. I might muck it up if I tried to fix it, but I hope you or some other experienced fixer can fix it. [[User:Robin Patterson|Robin Patterson]] 05:59, 26 Aug 2004 (UTC)
 
==New look==
 
Spiffy, chap. Spiffy. [[User:TheCustomOfLife|Mike H]] 19:09, Aug 30, 2004 (UTC)
 
:I'm in chat now, too. [[User:TheCustomOfLife|Mike H]] 19:11, Aug 30, 2004 (UTC)
 
::Chat. [[User:TheCustomOfLife|Mike H]] 02:32, Sep 3, 2004 (UTC)
 
==Clitoris==
 
You've just violated a rule by reverting *and* protecting a non-vandalized page in the same edit. Please kindly revert the page, or unprotect it. Otherwise be open to arbitration. Thanks! --[[User:Cantus|Cantus]] 07:34, Sep 1, 2004 (UTC)
 
:A sourceless image is a dangerous image to use in an article. Some choose to remove them until a source is given, and/or list them on [[Wikipedia:Copyright problems]]. I chose to remove your image, especially since you have a history of violating copyright. Also note that I can favour a version edited by the user(s) most closely following the [[Wikipedia:three revert rule|three revert rule]], which you were closest to violating. Have fun with the RfC. -- [[User:Hadal|Hadal]] 08:05, 1 Sep 2004 (UTC)
::He wasn't "closest to violating" this rule, he actually violated it several times, although on a different article (see the history of [[Siberia]] article). I can't take any action since it was me who was reverting his edits. The reverts are finally over (thanks to [[User:Mikkalai|Mikkalai]]), but the violation should go on record. Seems like no one likes Cantus these days. Can't blame them, though.--[[User:Ezhiki|Ëzhiki (erinaceus europeaus)]] 15:22, Sep 1, 2004 (UTC)
 
==Policy on redirects for capitalization against style==
Why redirect instead of delete? We don't normal maintain redirects when most people wouldn't think to capitalize the phrase. I was doing a good citizen deed by simply clicking on the red requested article link but after doing the first paragraphs realized the title shouldn't have been capitalized. Since I don't know how to edit a title, I made a new article. Why not kill the mistake, since it's not a phrase people would expect capitalized? [[User:Alteripse|Alteripse]] 03:05, 5 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 
== Vandal vs. userpage ==
 
Your userpage was hit (again). -- [[User:Grunt|Grun]][[User talk:Grunt|t]] [[European Union|{{User:Grunt/euflag}}]] 00:03, 2004 Sep 10 (UTC)
 
==Thanks==
 
Hi Hadal, thanks for blocking the AOLbot. [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus]] 22:58, 11 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 
==I was Blocked==
 
Hi Hadal, How are you? I know that your block of me,was unintentional and that it was directed at someone using an IP. How can we keep this from happening again? Just out of curiousity, what is an AOLVandalot?
[[User:Marine 69-71]]
 
Thanks for answering my questions; you live and learn, right?
[[User:Marine 69-71]]
 
==Hey==
 
Can you get on MSN? [[User:TheCustomOfLife|Mike H]] 02:19, Sep 12, 2004 (UTC)
 
:MSN, huh? [[User:TheCustomOfLife|Mike H]] 13:40, Sep 13, 2004 (UTC)
 
==Template:PD==
 
Hello,
 
Can you temporarily unprotect [[Template:PD]]? I'd like to turn it into a pretty box like [[Template:Fairuse]]. -[[user:Cow|Cow]] 05:50, 12 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 
Done. [[User:Cow| ]][[Image:Cow.gif|User:Cow]] 06:21, 12 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 
==203.144.21.77==
Can you please deal with 203.144.21.77? I don't block people any more. [[User:RickK|Rick]][[User talk:RickK|K]] 03:48, Sep 13, 2004 (UTC)
 
Lazy sod. :-) Thanks, anyway. And you're right, since I stopped blocking people, my stress level is considerably lower, especially since I don't have to deal with Guanaco and Danny second guessing me and unblocking everybody I blocked. [[User:RickK|Rick]][[User talk:RickK|K]] 19:00, Sep 13, 2004 (UTC)
 
==Giant Isopod==
I thought you article on [[giant isopod]]s was cool, so I put your it in the '''Did you know...''' section of the front page :). [[User:Thue|Thue]] | [[User talk:Thue|talk]] 19:31, 13 Sep 2004 (UTC)
==Roy Suryo==
I'm somewhat puzzled by your recent [[Roy Suryo]] reverts. Granted, it's never a good sign when a non-registered user blanks out large portions of a page, but it seems to me [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Roy_Suryo&oldid=5861276 the version you're reverting to] is just a diatribe against the guy written in broken English. Does such a thing really belong in an encyclopedia? Perhaps the page should be left as a stub until someone can write something objective (and grammatical) about him. [[User:Dreish|dreish]] 20:36, 2004 Sep 13 (UTC)
 
== Lance Armstrong ==
Hadal, you are being an asshole. Lance just like Paris Hilton can sue the tabloid magazines if what they print isn't true. Just because they are one of the few that
print this type of information does not make it untrue. The quote I showed came from a reputable Womens magazine that ref'd the original tabloid. The point is that Lance didn't sue so it must be true as we well know that Lance can and will sue at the drop of the hat.
 
Why is so damn important to you to disinclude this fact which lends a lot of relevance to his moral and ethical choices and more than likely his preponderance to cheat?
 
:Oh, and you're the very model of [[wikipedia:Civility|civility]] (I'd check that link out if I were you; further [[wikipedia:no personal attacks|personal attacks]] may see your editing ability revoked). If what you're trying to push is true, you shouldn't have any trouble finding a source that isn't either a) a tabloid, or b) a "reputable Womens magazine" merely regurgitating a tabloid's filth to titillate readers. Please be advised that [[Wikipedia is not]] the place to take potshots at your most hated celebrity with unsubstantiated rumour. I suggest you look into one of the many Yahoo groups for that purpose; I'm sure they'd be glad to have you. However, if you're still interested in helping build an '''encyclopedia''' (not a tabloid) please take a look at our [[wikipedia:welcome, newcomers|welcome page]] to learn how. -- [[User:Hadal|Hadal]] 18:46, 14 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 
==Vandalism==
Thanks. [[User:Hyacinth|Hyacinth]] 18:51, 19 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 
== S Jones is not a prominent evolutionary biologist ==
 
Hadal,
 
Apologies if I didn't explain my deletion of S Jones, but he is not prominent in evolutionary theory (compared to many others), and stands out like a sore thumb on the Evolution list. Putting him there would be like putting Paul Martin on the list of 20 most prominent world political leaders of the last two centuries (since you are Canadian). Also perhaps like putting Nabokov on the list of most prominent entomologists (since you have an interest in that field). Nabokov is prominent for his writing, but not for his entomology, although he did do some. This analogy is generous to Jones, since it is not clear whether his writing will or will not stand the test of time. His inclusion on that list appears to be more promotion than reality, even if one does greatly appreciate his writing.
 
Cheers,
 
EGenBio
 
:Steve Jones is one of the pre-eminent British evolutionary biologist academics and populists. What article is in dispute here? [[User:Noisy|[[User:Noisy|Noisy]] | [[User talk:Noisy|Talk]]]] 08:24, 26 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 
::The article in dispute is [[evolution]]; specifically [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Evolution&diff=6148370&oldid=5992459 this edit]. I had thought the anon ("EGenBio") had perhaps removed the name because it originally led to a disambig page, which may have been confusing to a new editor; I restored the link and disambiguated it accordingly. From reading Jones' article, he does sound prominent enough to mention, but I won't pretend I'm very knowledgeable enough in the subject of evolutionary biology to judge. You (Noisy) apparently disagree with EGenBio, so I'm not about to delist the name either. I was just trying to fix an apparently (to me anyway) confused user's edit. -- [[User:Hadal|Hadal]] 09:05, 26 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 
== Vandal catcher ==
 
You ARE fast, you even beat me in reverting my own user page :), good work! Hows the weather in Canada? Take care. -- [[User:Solitude|Solitude]] 18:57, 20 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 
Ditto, quick work sir. My hat is off to you. [[User:Mackensen|Mackensen]] 02:25, 24 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 
And another. [[User:Kashasu|kashasu]]
 
== So? Is this NOT neutral enough for you? (911) ==
Half of New Yorkers Believe US Leaders Had Foreknowledge of Impending 9-11 Attacks and &#8220;Consciously Failed&#8221; To Act; 66% Call For New Probe of Unanswered Questions by Congress or New York&#8217;s Attorney General, New Zogby International Poll Reveals
 
On the eve of a Republican National Convention invoking 9/11 symbols, sound bytes and imagery, half (49.3%) of New York City residents and 41% of New York citizens overall say that some of our leaders "knew in advance that attacks were planned on or around September 11, 2001, and that they consciously failed to act," according to the poll conducted by Zogby International. The poll of New York residents was conducted from Tuesday August 24 through Thursday August 26, 2004. Overall results have a margin of sampling error of +/-3.5.
 
The poll is the first of its kind conducted in America that surveys attitudes regarding US government complicity in the 9/11 tragedy. Despite the acute legal and political implications of this accusation, nearly 30% of registered Republicans and over 38% of those who described themselves as "very conservative" supported the claim.
 
The charge found very high support among adults under 30 (62.8%), African-Americans (62.5%), Hispanics (60.1%), Asians (59.4%), and "Born Again" Evangelical Christians (47.9%).
 
see http://www.zogby.com/search/ReadNews.dbm?ID=855
 
oh, and please refrain from calling me, and 60% of New Yorkers 'not helpful' when adding truthful facts to wikipedia!
 
== Thank you! ==
Thanks for reverting my Userpage - I was away and didn't get back until today, so it's a good thing somebody was looking out for it. --[[User:Goobergunch|Goobergunch]] 23:41, 26 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 
==Vampire suqid image reversion==
 
Regarding the reversion of [[:Image:Vampyroteuthis illustration.jpg]] to its previous version, if I did that it was indeed a mistake, but as far as I'm aware I haven't done anything witht hat image. Please revert it to the intended image.
 
--[[User:Martin Wisse|Martin Wisse]] 14:45, 27 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 
 
 
== Thanks for restoring links ==
 
I'd just finished rewriting the introduction to the [[War]] article when I noticed and deleted some apparent vandalism at the end. As a newcomer I didn't distinguish between the vandalism and the interlanguage links you restored, so I'm grateful for the assistance. I think user 221.197.20.66 placed those there. Can you advise as to procedure for reporting this?
 
--[[User:NathanHawking|NathanHawking]] 19:38, 2004 Sep 27 (UTC)
 
== Protection ==
Hi Hadal, I think your protecting [[General Mayhem]] is pretty uncontroversial. However, usually admins invovled with a page should get another uninvolved admin to protect. Just a reminder. Thanks. [[User:Fuzheado|Fuzheado]] | [[User talk:Fuzheado|Talk]] 05:09, 30 Sep 2004 (UTC)
 
==Thanks==
 
Thanks for reverting [[Gwen Araujo]]. Didn't have that one on my watchlist for some reason. [[User:Ambi|Ambi]] 04:44, 1 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 
== Hehe ==
 
I noticed you reverted my user page. I'm impressed anyone noticed that it had even changed! It was actually a change made by a co-worker. I was demonstrating to him that he could change any page on Wikipedia at will, which took him by surprise. It's only because of the dedication of people like yourself that such openness is possible. Keep up the good work!
 
([[User:Peter bertok|Peter bertok]] 13:52, 1 Oct 2004 (UTC))
 
== Is there a revert template or something? ==
 
I notice that you and others leave edit comments in the exact form "reverted edits by {someone} to last version by {other person}". Is there some magical wiki code that lets you do that? I seem to be doing more and more reverts these days, can you impart some wisdom? --[[User:Sunborn|{{User:Sunborn/sig}}]] 17:14, 1 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 
==MSN==
 
Now, please. [[User:TheCustomOfLife|Mike H]] 04:27, Oct 2, 2004 (UTC)
 
== Mistaken Identity? ==
 
Hi, I just registered because I had received a message stating that my ip was being watched for vandalism?
 
I got this message here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:198.133.246.27
 
That is not my ip address, and I have never used the 'edit' command here once until today to post this message
here. Now I '''seriously''' respect the Wikipedia project and would never troll or vandalize here, because I enjoy
the site so much.
 
== Happy Birthday! ==
 
Happy [[m:Wikipedians by birthday|birthday]], Hadal! [[User:Whosyourjudas|Whosyourjudas]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Whosyourjudas|(talk)]] 01:04, 5 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 
:Hear, hear! [[User:Mackensen|Mackensen]] 01:06, 5 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 
==Wikipedia:Votes for undeletion==
See [[Wikipedia:Votes for undeletion]]. Anthony is challenging your right to make speedy deletions. And Happy Birthday! [[User:RickK|Rick]][[User talk:RickK|K]] 01:16, Oct 5, 2004 (UTC)
*No I'm not. I'm only challenging a few speedy deletions which don't appear to fit the criteria for speedy deletions. [[User:Anthony DiPierro|anthony]] [[User:Anthony_DiPierro/warning|(see warning)]] 15:52, 5 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 
== What's wrong?==
 
Always when i surf to the english wikipedia, i receive a message, which tells me not to edit pages variously or "do it in the sandbox". i - don't - change - anything - here. I only work for rhe [http://de.wikipedia.org german wikipedia] ([http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benutzer:Roger_Zenner Username: Roger Zenner]) and know about the rules. So why, please, do i receive messages like this so often?
 
regards
[http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benutzer:Roger_Zenner Roger]
 
== Watts, Los Angeles, CA ==
 
Regading your edit: I do believe it belongs there because that's what defines that neighborhood. It's not a place you'd want to drive into by mistake, but rather one to avoid at all costs.
 
 
== ATTN HADAL==
 
Is there a way you can get a hold of me again please? [[User:MetalMilitia|MetalMilitia]] 04:01, 8 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 
== Broken category link ==
Since it appears you may be online right now, I'm asking you. :-) Could you take a look at [[Megatsunami]]? One of the category links (forms of water) appears broken and I can't figure out why. I went to add the missing bracket but it was there already. I'm stumped. Thank you. [[User:SWAdair|SWAdair]] | [[User talk:SWAdair|Talk ]] 06:18, 8 Oct 2004 (UTC)
*Thank you, on both accounts. [[User:SWAdair|SWAdair]] | [[User talk:SWAdair|Talk ]] 07:04, 8 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 
== Anon vandal ==
 
Thanks for saving me the trouble. [[User:VeryVerily|Very]][[User talk:VeryVerily|<font color=green>Verily</font>]] 07:17, 8 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 
==Another token of appreciation==
[[Image:WMBarnstar.png|right|thumb|111px|I, [[User:Blankfaze|blankfaze]], hereby award you this [[:Image:WMBarnstar.png|Working Man's Barnstar]], as recompense for your valiant and totally mindboggling efforts to repair damage sustained in the <b style="font-variant: small-caps;">Great Page Move Attack</b> of 9 October 2004.]]
 
Sir Hadal, I don't know HOW you did it, but you managed to sort through that huge mess of redirects and page moves. I myself couldn't even find WHERE anything actually ended up, much less how to put everything back in its right place. But then ''you'' come in, with your hotshot mojo and all, and you smoke the thing like it's 2<b style="font-variant: small-caps; font-weight: normal;">nd</b> grade math. You, my good man, continually prove yourself to be one of Wikipedia's most valuable assets. This day will henceforth forever be known as <b style="font-variant: small-caps;">The Day That Hadal Saved [[Wikipedia:Community Portal|Community Portal]]</b>.
 
Thanks once again. [[User:Blankfaze|blankfaze]] | [[User talk:blankfaze|<small>(&#1073;&#1077;&#1089;&#1077;&#1076;&#1072;!)</small>]] 10:25, 9 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 
== Refrain from deleting my link. ==
 
Please refrain from deleting the link I posted in the Ken Bigley page.
this is NOt a beheading video as you incorrectly presumed it to be, it was merely the original quality of the one you directed to on ogrish, except it was unaltered, unlike ogrish did, thereby reducing the quality of the video so they could include their website link on the video.
For the present time, I have not altered the link that you continually revert back to, as the three revert rule was broken forty moves ago.
 
==Message To Hadal Re: Your [[Phil Collins]] Deletion==
 
To Hadal: don't revert other people's edits. Someone obviously put a lot of hard work into the second mini-article that was present on this page. It contains information that is as valuable as whatever's in the longer article. Someone should '''merge''' the two of them together, but I did not restore the original content so that ''some'' bits of information could overshadow some others.
 
Please, someone with the time and the interest in reading about Phil Collins, merge this information in with the rest of the article:
 
:::''<snipped text dump from [[Talk:Phil Collins]]>''
 
:The content was originally on the talk page, so I didn't really remove anything; it was only placed to the article from the talk page (where it was originally) because [[User:Ground]] (whom you recently chastised) didn't know how to do a proper revert. You reverted to D6's version before the deletions and pasted the talk page material on top of it. You then said in your edit summary that the article was a mess; a mess you had a part in. If you couldn't be bothered to merge the text, you should have left it on the talk page.
 
:Also, please do not edit other users' userpages as you did to Ground's (not only is this impolite, but the user won't get the "You have new messages" notice this way). I moved your message to him from his userpage to his talk page for you. -- [[User:Hadal|Hadal]] 05:17, 11 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 
::Update: It looks like you're actually banned user [[User:Mr. Treason|Mr. Treason]], so it's just as well that I reverted you. Nice try with switching your static IP though. -- [[User:Hadal|Hadal]] 05:38, 11 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 
:::''<Fifth grade insults from Mr. Treason deleted; see [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=User_talk:Hadal&diff=6487329&oldid=6487263] for an example>''
 
== I am unclear on the reason for your comment to me ==
 
"Do you plan to add schema-root.org links to every topic conceivable? Please be aware that Wikipedia is not merely a collection of external links, nor is it a vehicle for self-promotion. I would suggest you stop while you're ahead; mass spamming will be reverted, and you may be blocked from editing if you continue. -- Hadal 04:28, 12 Oct 2004 (UTC)"
 
Hadal,
 
I don't understand the basis for your comment to me. The schema-root.org links I am adding to pages add significantly to the value of the Wikipedia pages, in that they carry current news feeds about each precise Wikipedia topic in question.
 
Schema-root.org calls itself an encyclopedia of current events, and the name suits it. Nearly 2,000 schema-root.org pages have links to whichever Wikipedia pages they may be related to.
 
My effort has been to connect information sources in a meaningful way, so that a user may most readily research their topic.
 
The "stop while you're ahead" comment is most perplexing. If you believe that the links to schema-root.org pages detract from the Wikipedia pages that they are on, why wouldn't that be enough reason to simply remove them?
 
If, on the other hand, they add to the value of the pages, why call them spamming or self-promotion?
 
Wherever schema-root.org links contribute to Wikipedia pages, why would you wish to ration them? [[User:Johntinker|John Tinker]] 16:40, 21 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 
== Thanks for getting that speedy ==
 
Could you keep an eye on this user for me - he has been vandalising Christopher Reed and some geography. Thanks, [[User:Intrigue|Intrigue]] 19:08, 12 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 
== My nomination for adminship ==
 
Thank you for supporting my nomination for adminship. I will do my best to serve Wikipedia. --[[User:Slowking Man|Slowking Man]] 00:09, Oct 13, 2004 (UTC)
 
== Thanks for the revert ==
 
Hi Hadal, yes, it was indeed vandalism... ip2location.com says it was from [[KAIST]]. Strange. I don't recall annoying anyone from there lately. Anyway, thanks again. You rock! Regards, [[User:Wile E. Heresiarch|Wile E. Heresiarch]] 12:37, 16 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 
==[[Penis]]==
Your revert sadly makes no sense. If you wish to include the statement that male circumcision is controversial you need to place it in some sort of context, no? Controversial for whom? Who these people who find circumcision controversial, is it as a result of religious or tribal rivalries or maybe where activist organisations are involved (speaking louder than the sum of their membership or followers) You make such a statement you need to place it in context. Sometimes a simple sentence can indeed be loaded. But perhaps you know that, eh? - [[User:Robert the Bruce|Robert the Bruce]] 03:58, 17 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 
:You responded as follows on my talk page:
 
That article is not the place to be debating the issue. It's about the penis itself, not
circumcision. Context is always good, but your edit wasn't what I'd call constructive; you
simply discredit the (otherwise unspoken) opinion of those opposed to circumcision as a small,
loud group of "psycho sexually motivated" internet users. Belittling views contrary to your
own is usually an ineffective way of currying favour for your views, eh? As for your "compromise,"
I must say you could do better; now you're blaming "anti-circumcision activists" of "stoking
controversy", as if everything would be just fine if it weren't for the radical subversives.
Do you really believe every person opposed to circumcision is&#8212;by default&#8212;an eristic rabble-rouser?
-- Hadal 04:15, 17 Oct 2004 (UTC)
:You failed to address my issue about context. Why? Anyway I have edited the applicable passage again so as to address your concerns. BTW please show me where you have reverted some of the more off the wall comment by our resident "anti circumcision activists"? - [[User:Robert the Bruce|Robert the Bruce]] 05:22, 17 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 
==[[John Lott]]==
 
[[User:38.118.12.78]] has broken the three-revert rule now on [[John Lott]]. When would it be appropriate to list this on Vandalism in Progress? -- [[User:Antaeus Feldspar|Antaeus Feldspar]] 05:52, 20 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 
:Well, I can't claim to be an expert on John Lott, but I know that 38.118.12.78 is removing true and important information on the man, namely that by his own admission he has used at least one false identity (that of "Mary Rosh") as a sockpuppet to praise himself and denigrate his critics. That's information the man himself has admitted to; to omit it from the article when it's almost what he's most famous for is definitely not kosher. -- [[User:Antaeus Feldspar|Antaeus Feldspar]] 06:11, 20 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 
hi! I'm at a public computer at mcgill university, montreal, and I got a link on a page about geosynchronous orbits, saying I have new messages, leading here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:205.188.116.201
 
that's not even close to the ip i'm on.. maybe its a bug in your software?
 
toodles!
 
== Abortion Link ==
 
I wanted to know you opinion on a [http://www.abortionbreastcancer.com/ link] in the [[Abortion]] entry.
 
It was placed after very brief breast cancer paragraph by [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Abortion&diff=5610199&oldid=5609530 128.118.56.62]. The website is run by Dr. Brind who is pro-life, but he is not ideological; his research and rationale are pretty solid regarding the Abortion-Breast Cancer link. So perhaps it is indeed a suitable ying to the establishments yang.
 
I'm aware of that because I spent several months researching the Abortion Breast-Cancer (ABC) controversy as an aspiring writer/journalist. Even though that career path has yet to progress I did end up writing and re-writing about 1/2 dozen times a long (and I consider) excellent article on the subject.
 
Anyhow if you feel the link is ultimately inappropriate I think I have an alternative ying. It was written by an investigative journalist noting pro-choice hypocrisy and lack of criticism in the scientific community for studies "disproving" the ABC link.
 
Also I wanted to add a few paragraphs on the ABC issue history, explanation, perspective, answer the question in the discussion section, and add more balance to the one paragraph referring to one meta-analysis, which isn't immune to bias.
 
But I want to do it in collaboration with someone who knows what they are doing so I don't run the risk of additions being edited out. And this goes beyond what to write... but how it should be implemented. I could easily write enough to warrant a separate entry for the ABC issue or I could do something short to fit in Abortion.
 
Soooooo um, help! :') Should I be working with you, or someone else? I live in Dundas, Ontario... I'm pro-choice and pro-science. So the fact I saw science being distorted by the ABC issue got me motivated to write the article, which I could e-mail to you if you're interested.
 
Thanks for your time, and your wiki efforts.
 
Question: The Abortion entry has been vandalized so many times shouldn't they lock it out from new users? Is that possible?
 
:I've replied (at length) at [[User talk:RoyBoy]]. -- [[User:Hadal|Hadal]] 04:47, 21 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 
== Abortion Cont'd ==
 
Thanks for the tilde advice. I hope I can convince you to get more involved in this. The ABC debate is complicated, but it is hardly a matter of one pro-life doctor on a crusade. Consider this... is his isolation merely a matter of him being wrong, or is it a reflection of pro-choice bias in the scientific community? Which punishes researchers for publishing studies indicating a ABC link by scrutinizing then heaping critiques on their work. Now this should be par for the course in peer reviewed studies, right? However the problem is there is a double standard in the level of scrutiny studies undergo depending on their results.
 
Pro-choice researchers such as Dr. Daling, a professor of epidemiology at Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Centre in Seattle, found statistically significant results supporting the ABC link. (she did two studies) I called her and she essentially refused to talk to me about it because of the trouble her studies had caused her in the scientific community and the media (even the book [http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0465001769/102-7311507-5215329?v=glance What Liberal Bias?], which competently refutes right-wing caricatures of the media as being liberal, conceded the pro-choice bias in the media). Daling was simply tired of talking about it and getting nowhere, but she stood by her results.
 
Anyway http://www.iol.ie/~hlii/beforeyouchoose.html is the website by the investigative journalist who works for Accuracy in Media.
 
"The National Cancer Institute also disproves such a connection."
 
No they didn't. (you should be very careful when using the word proof/prove in scientific matters) They had a meeting which was skewed. Keep in mind here the context of this conference. They were fighting a conservative take over of their webpage, but as I see so often in the ABC debate... they overcompensated and science/dialogue fell by the wayside. It was a pissing match... not a scientific review. Notice Dr. Daling wasn't asked to present her ABC findings.
http://www.bcpinstitute.org/abc_nci.htm
 
This is a microcosm of the ABC "debate". The big picture is the scientific community is fighting what they perceive to be purely an ideological assault on science by pro-lifers using the ABC issue as a scare tactic. This was true in decades past with anecdotal evidence at best. However ever since Russo and Russo (1980) showed an ABC link in rats (and confirmed the finding in 1987); there has been a reasonable basis to suspect an ABC link. And most informed scientists and doctors know this... however there is a consensus (among them), that the potential link is too small and would overly frighten women from abortion. (which is true if the ABC link isn't explained correctly, since getting an abortion very early in the pregnancy, or taking a "morning after" pill carry little to no ABC risk)
 
Now it is my opinion that ever since the Melbye study in 1997 (ironically a large record based study which apparently "proved" no link); that a link was actually established by that study if you look at their data. And once you understand how and why they adjusted their data to reach a conclusion of exactly 0% risk increase... you will understand how I could make such a ludicrous statement. It is also a prime example of the double standard of scrutiny scientific studies receive based on their conclusions.
 
The problem is as the science has improved there is more (not less) evidence to show a link. However the political battle lines were drawn long ago and the side are entrenched with myths (mostly on the pro-life side, but it was the myths on the pro-choice side that made me realize Dr. Brind did actually know what he was talking about, since I too had initially labeled him as damaged goods when doing my research), and with the media safely pro-choice... it isn't exactly a level playing field.
 
Hence it is hardly surprising: "I've never heard of a reliable, objective study which proves such a connection."
 
Here are record based studies doing just that:
 
Howe et al (1989) Int J Epidemiol 18(2):300-4<br>
Melbye et al (1997) N Engl J Med 336:81-5 (prior to statistical adjustment)
 
(The Howe study is discussed by the AIM journalist in the
[http://www.iol.ie/~hlii/beforeyouchoose.html#swed The "Swedish Data Massage"].
Note: I do recognize he misinterprets the relative risk numbers for the Swedish study, which were 0.58 and 1.09. Meaning there was a decreased risk of 42% and an increased risk of 9%. However the initial criticism of there being no well defined control group is accurate... making the statistics, and indeed the findings of the study meaningless.)
 
Interview based studies (there are many more... but the same "recall bias" argument is leveled on them all, without substantiation):
 
Daling et al (1994) JNCI 86:1584-92<br>
Daling et al (1996) Am J Epidemiol 144:373-80
 
Rats:
 
Russo & Russo (1980) Am J Pathol 100:506<br>
Russo & Russo (1987) Lab Invest. Aug;57(2):112-37
 
It should be noted Dr. Brind did a meta analysis that got a lot of flack. He worked with some pro-choice scientists on it... but moreover the critique of his work (and meta analysis in general) can be applied to the Lancet meta analysis; which Dr. Brind discusses [http://bcpinstitute.org/printabc_html.htm here].
 
This subject is intricate, and is not remotely getting a fair hearing on wiki. The contention that one meta analysis settles the issue is not only laughable… but simply unscientific. (because any scientist will tell you shouldn’t base an opinion on one study… meta analysis helps by looking at many studies, but they can be manipulated either way) At the very least Brind's critique of the Lancet meta analysis should be included. However to do that would require disarming the knee jerk response of liberals not much unlike ourselves. In order to do that; requires information in context.
 
Indeed I can make a article without Brind, that would be safest, but he is the leading intellectual on the subject (willing to talk about it)... whether we like his politics or not. Actually it is because of his politics he doesn't mind being on the 'outside' of his peers. This is not the case for scientist like Dr. Daling just trying to do their work.
 
"I have three sisters with breast cancer and I resent people messing with the scientific data to further their own agenda, be they pro-choice or pro-life. I would have loved to have found no association between breast cancer and abortion, but our research is rock solid and our data is accurate." - Dr. Daling http://www.abortionbreastcancer.com/coverup3.htm
 
http://tinyurl.com/57q75 for the full LA article.
 
I hope I have piqued your interest... and demonstrated to you I've gone through Google far more thoroughly than most in regards to the ABC issue, and Dr. Brind in particular. It is a little cumbersome doing this through wiki... since it can be slow and sometimes temperamental. Hopefully you can take me up on my invitation to send me an e-mail to royboy2019 (at) cogeco.ca... if for no other reason to provide further suggestions on how a first time editor such as myself doesn't get pigeonholed by breaking wiki rules, and valuable info goes by the wayside.
 
Man this is long... sorry. :'D
 
PS: Keep in mind I have come across all of the critiques of Daling, Howe and comparing rats to humans... and they haven't been very convincing once you do the research. I even inadvertently made a feminist website edit their ABC page after hinting their comments about Dr. Daling were "out of date" (translation: false).
[[User:RoyBoy|RoyBoy]] 16:15, 22 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 
== Wow, super fast ==
 
Congrats on the fast reverts. Once again, I found myself stumbling through the history, only to see things fixed already. :) [[User:Krupo|Krupo]] 04:11, Oct 23, 2004 (UTC)
 
== Hadal, How am I causing valdalism? Have you not read the newspaper today? The republicans are leading a fascist change, working to actively block people at the polls. ==
 
Additionally, your information about Taiwan is WRONG.
 
It is an apartheid state, the same way that South Africal was.
 
I am a professor here at my university. Shall I pass along my credentials?
 
And if you really want to block me, I believe that you can. However, since it is a dynamic IP port, you will need to block all of my university to do this.
 
If you want, I will show you the articles and the research. Is this a fair deal?
 
All I want is for document that people to read to be accurate. - [[Special:Contributions/18.252.6.202|18.252.6.202]]
 
:I don't care if you're the dean; I'll block your university if it means putting an end to your deleterious edits. Before you go any further with your talk of truth and accuracy, please take the time to read our [[Wikipedia:Neutral point of view|neutrality policy]] and our [[Wikipedia:three revert rule|"three revert rule" policy]]. Thanks. -- [[User:Hadal|Hadal]] 06:13, 26 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 
== I have read your policy. So, here is a question. ==
 
Sorry,
 
I had not read your policy before.
 
Here is the question then.
 
If tomorrow (after 24 hours), I write a fair and convincing piece, about why Taiwan is actually an apartheid state (backed up with reviews from the literature), will you allow it to be included as an EXTRA piece to the page (in addition to what already exists there, without altering anything that currently exists)?
 
:You're asking the wrong person. Personally, I don't think such a view has much currency here; what you're proposing sounds like [[Wikipedia:no original research|original research]] expressly meant to bolster your own point of view. I'm not going to approve or disapprove of anything you're planning; but don't submit anything if you don't want it to be edited mercilessly or removed altogether (not necessarily by me). Every editor has the same "authority" over an article; administrators such as myself just have a few extra tools that make dealing with troublemakers a bit less taxing (such as the ability to block a user). Do what you may, but don't expect other users to abide by your agenda. Take special care to abide by our policies, and try to edit objectively at all times. -- [[User:Hadal|Hadal]] 06:25, 26 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 
::And how. Wikipedia is not the place to advance a thesis, no matter how valid.<br>
::—[[User:Methylsoy|Methylsoy]] 04:12, 6 Nov 2004 (UTC)
 
== that stuff about tony blair was true! ==
 
that stuff about tony blair was true! you can't argue with a factually correct statement
 
== Village Dump ==
 
I posted a question regarding the title of the ABC article, do you have any suggestions?
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_%28miscellaneous%29#Abortion-Breast_Cancer_.28Issue.3F_Debate.3F_Link.3F.29_Article
 
== Please tell VioletRiga to stop deleting/editing my comments at [[Talk:September 11, 2001 attacks]] ==
 
<strike>Also, I acknowledge receipt of your message, yet am choosing to delete it from the talk page assigned to my IP address.
[[User:216.153.214.94|216.153.214.94]] 19:36, 29 Oct 2004 (UTC)</strike>
 
My apologies about the 216.153.214.94 IP talk page. I did not know that I ought not to "blank" it. I presumed that my use of that IP linked me to that page and gave me the right to edit it as I see fit. I stand corrected. Also, what are you going to say to Violet? She started this you know. how dare she delete my [[Talk:September 11, 2001 attacks]] comments? She has no right to do that. What followed was a tit-for-tat retaliation. [[User:216.153.214.94|216.153.214.94]] 19:44, 29 Oct 2004 (UTC)
 
== [[Tony Blair]] ==
 
I was reverting the vandalism to the above article when I got an edit conflict and found that you'd already done it: I don't mind, but I was just wondering why you marked the reversion as 'minor'. I thought that vandalism was quite serious. Just curious, and please reply on my talk page,--[[User:Gabriel Webber|[[User:Gabriel Webber|Gabriel]] | [[User talk:Gabriel Webber|talk]]]]
 
== Needing a hand. ==
 
Hello there. It's good to see that the guy who helped me take my first steps in the Wikipedia is still active and well. :) You see, I am in need of help from someone with good grammar and experience with editing articles, it's nothing too time-consuming (I think). My pet article [[Children of Bodom]] has progressed very well and I think that it has now become a good article with a fair share of content, but I would like someone skilled to review it. Do you have time to do that? If you don't I won't be offended! Cheers. --[[User:Sn0wflake|Sn0wflake]] 20:01, 2 Nov 2004 (UTC)
 
== [[Mouldy Sandwich]] ==
 
[[Image:mouldy_bread.jpg]]
I, maestrosync, award you this Mouldy Sandwich. Eat it with honour!
 
== Liberal Democratic Party of Australia ==
 
Thanks for dropping by the [[Liberal Democratic Party of Australia|LDP]] and pouring cold water on the warriors. (I'm new here, and I must admit I was hoping for something a little less... petty to be my first edit war, but oh well.) Now for the fun part: <s>convincing dogs and cats to get along</s> coming up with a consensus article... [[User:Jiminy Krikkitt|<nowiki></nowiki>]] '''[[User:Jiminy Krikkitt|J]]'''.'''[[User talk:Jiminy Krikkitt|K]]'''. [[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 17:23, 5 Nov 2004 (UTC)
 
:''(sighs)'' Speaking of petty... the protection of the [[Liberal Democratic Party of Australia|LDP]] article has only served to delay, rather than cool down, the <s>cats and dogs</s> edit warriors. It was lifted about ten hours ago, and we've had as many reverts since, including four from the same logged-in user and more from anonymous users. I'm going to slap together a draft compromise version and put it on a subpage; would you consider reprotecting the page until we (please, gods) get consensus on it? [[User:Jiminy Krikkitt|'''J''']].'''[[User talk:Jiminy Krikkitt|K]]'''. [[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 07:49, 16 Nov 2004 (UTC)
 
::No worries. To be honest, the various Requests for mediation/comment/arbitration etc pages give me bigger headaches than the edit wars that cause them; at least the mature editors among us can get to work now, which is the important part... [[User:Jiminy Krikkitt|'''J''']].'''[[User talk:Jiminy Krikkitt|K]]'''. [[<nowiki></nowiki>]] 04:28, 17 Nov 2004 (UTC)
 
==69.34.86.105 = PartyWagon?==
Maybe I'm jumping to conclusions, but do you think those two are one and the same? Destroying the Community Portal so close together time wise. -- [[user:zanimum]]
:Yeah.. I jumped to the same conclusion. ;) Even if he isn't the same person, he certainly knows enough about the project. "Anti Tim Starling Day" indeed. I say we block him the next time he tries to deface a page. -- [[User:Hadal|Hadal]] 19:27, 11 Nov 2004 (UTC)
:: BTW, PartyWagon's now serving 500 days. -- [[user:zanimum]]
 
== Thanks. ==
 
Thanks for the help! Hey, no one was in a hurry, so no problem. I will keep improving this and all other articles for which I am "responsible" for, so I will hopefully have more noteworthy contributions to be proof-read every once in a while. Of course I will make sure to bother people alternately, so don't worry, you won't hear any requests from me in the immediate future. :P
 
Cheers!--[[User:Sn0wflake|Sn0wflake]] 04:45, 12 Nov 2004 (UTC)
 
== URGENT - PLEASE READ NOW ==
 
Sorry to bother you, but I must tell you, as an admin, that someone has created an account to pretend to be me. I am [[User:Gabriel Webber]] and this user is [[User:Gabriiel Webber]]. His/her only edit is to the sandbox, and I had a long edit war over the <nowiki>{{sandbox}}</nowiki> notice just an hour or so previously, so I imagine it was that anon who did it. Their IP is 82.32.22.235 Please block the Gabriiel Webber account in case it does something really awful. Reply on my talk page,--[[User:Gabriel Webber|[[User:Gabriel Webber|Gabriel]] | [[User talk:Gabriel Webber|talk]]]] 18:17, 14 Nov 2004 (UTC)
:Thankyou ''very'' much.--[[User:Gabriel Webber|[[User:Gabriel Webber|Gabriel]] | [[User talk:Gabriel Webber|talk]]]] 19:02, 14 Nov 2004 (UTC)
 
== Alfred Hitchcock ==
Hey Hadal,
Sorry about the Alfred Hitchcock thing, if you even remember correcting that now. It won't happen again, I was trying to prove a point to my friend who did not believe in Wikipedia. Thank you for keeping wikipedia at least somewhat reliable.
 
:Hi; I've replied at [[User talk:24.99.29.220]]. -- [[User:Hadal|Hadal]] 04:40, 19 Nov 2004 (UTC)
 
== New submissions ==
 
Hadal,
 
I think that you erased my changes. I just created a user account, but don't want to add my changes again, unless I can. I appologize if this is the wrong way to talk.
 
[[User:kwik|kwik]]
 
:I've replied at [[User talk:Kwik]]. -- [[User:Hadal|Hadal]] 05:29, 21 Nov 2004 (UTC)
 
==[[User:The.Truth]]==
You might want to check out what I put on his talk page, then the latest [[Matrix scheme]] re-POV-vert, then his contributions list. Smells like trouble brewing. Hope I'm wrong. Sigh. --[[User:Gary D|Gary D]] 08:44, Nov 21, 2004 (UTC)
:Update: maybe I am indeed wrong. He's now re-editing [[Matrix scheme]], and it looks like he may at least be trying. --[[User:Gary D|Gary D]] 08:47, Nov 21, 2004 (UTC)
 
== [[Turquoise]] ==
 
I nominated [[Turquoise]] yesterday as a [[Wikipedia:Featured article candidate]] - it is absolutely excellent, very well done. So far it is recieving majority support - one objection lies in lack of source of a picture. --[[User:OldakQuill|[[User:OldakQuill|Oldak]] [[User_talk:OldakQuill|Quill]]]] 13:51, 21 Nov 2004 (UTC)
 
== [[Madonna (entertainer)]] ==
 
[[User:69.160.211.232]] is still at it on [[Madonna (entertainer)]]. Could you slap them, short-term block, temporarily protect (not really useful, the user is vandalising other pages too) or at least take over reverting for a bit? I think I've used up my reverts on that article for today. Thanks. --[[User:Fvw|fvw]][[User Talk:fvw|<SMALL>*</SMALL>]] 07:22, 2004 Nov 24 (UTC)
 
I am posting credible, actual information on the Madonna page, quit erasing it! I will make the trivia section amazing! I am an avid Madonna fan and want to contribute to the page, I have all of her sales estimates, chart feats, etc... I really want to post!!! (comment posted by [[User:MadonnaFan]])
 
:See my replies at [[User talk:MadonnaFan]] and [[User talk:69.160.211.232]]. -- [[User:Hadal|Hadal]] 08:43, 24 Nov 2004 (UTC)
 
== Vandalism of "Sailor Moon" article ==
 
You know, I think if this 219.93.174.* (dynamic [[IP address]]) user vandalizes the [[Sailor Moon]] article again, it should be protected for 24 hours, in addition to the vandal being banned. [[User:Denelson83|Denelson83]] 07:16, 25 Nov 2004 (UTC)
 
== [[User:CMON]] ==
 
Hi, I'm a little concerned about [[User:CMON]] ([[User talk:CMON|talk]]) edits. I came accross them in the sandbox where they changed the header line. I then checked their contributions, and looked in detail at their changes to [[Lleyton Hewitt]]. It seemed so drastically changed, I thought I ought to do something, but I'm not sure what. So, I asked you, as an admin. Please reply on my talk page,--[[User:Gabriel Webber|[[User:Gabriel Webber|Gabriel Webber]] [[User talk:Gabriel Webber|''(babble were rig)'']]]] 18:58, 25 Nov 2004 (UTC)
 
== Article Licensing ==
 
I've "started" the [[User:rambot|Free the Rambot Articles Project]] which aims to get users to release all of their contributions to the U.S. state, county, and city articles under the CC-by-sa 1.0 and 2.0 license (at minimum) or into the public ___domain if they prefer. A secondary goal is to get those users to release ALL of their edits for ALL articles. I've personally chosen to [[Wikipedia:Multi-licensing|multi-license]] all of the [[User:rambot|rambot]] and [[User:Ram-Man|Ram-Man]] contributions under the [[Creative Commons]] Attribution-Share Alike [[Creative Commons License|License]] so that other projects, such as [[WikiTravel]], can use our articles. I was wondering if you would be willing to multi-license all your contributions (or at ''minimum'' those on the geographic articles) so that we can keep most of the articles available under the multi-license. Many users use the '''<nowiki>{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}</nowiki>''' template (or even '''<nowiki>{{MultiLicensePD}}</nowiki>''' for [[public ___domain]]) on their user page, but there are other templates for other options at [[Wikipedia:Template messages/User namespace#Licensing Templates|Template messages/User namespace]]. If you only prefer using the [[GFDL]], I understand, but I thought I'd at least ask, just in case, since the number of your edits is in the top 100. If you do want to do it, simply just copy and paste one of the above two templates into your user page and it will allow us to track those users who have done it. For example:
 
:'''Option 1'''
:<nowiki>I agree to [[Wikipedia:Multi-licensing|multi-license]] all my contributions, with the exception of my user pages, as described below:</nowiki>
:<nowiki>{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}</nowiki>
'''OR'''
:'''Option 2'''
:<nowiki>I agree to [[Wikipedia:Multi-licensing|multi-license]] all my contributions to any [[U.S. state]], county, or city article as described below:</nowiki>
:<nowiki>{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}</nowiki>
 
Or if you wanted to place your work into the public ___domain (which many people do or don't like to do, see [[Wikipedia:Multi-licensing]]), you could replace '''<nowiki>{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}</nowiki>''' with '''<nowiki>{{MultiLicensePD}}</nowiki>''' -- [[User:Ram-Man|Ram-Man]] 22:37, Nov 25, 2004 (UTC)
 
==I want my name red again==
Pardon me, but is it possible that you could delete my user page? Someone put a malevolent remark into it. [[User:Denelson83|Denelson83]] 06:41, 27 Nov 2004 (UTC)
 
==JoeM==
 
I had a good conversation with JoeM by email. He still needs watching, but I no longer expect him to resort to vandalism. Please lift the ban. <s>[[User:Jimmy Wales|Jimbo Wales]] 09:26, 27 Nov 2004 (UTC)</s> - '''this message was posted by an imposter, probably JoeM himself; see [[Special:Contributions/Jimmy Wales]]'''.
 
Sigh. Jimbo, you're too trusting. The guy has just come back with a new name and started his one-man war on the world again tonight. [[User:RickK|Rick]][[User talk:RickK|K]] 09:30, Nov 27, 2004 (UTC)
:We can wait and see. <s>[[User:Jimmy Wales|Jimbo Wales]] 09:42, 27 Nov 2004 (UTC)</s>
::JoeM still says that he is unable to log in. Has he been unblocked yet? <s>[[User:Jimmy Wales|Jimbo Wales]] 09:49, 27 Nov 2004 (UTC)</s>
 
:::Nice try JoeM. If I weren't doing the dishes I'd have caught you sooner. -- [[User:Hadal|Hadal]] 10:06, 27 Nov 2004 (UTC)
 
Thanks for telling me, Hadal. I wondered why there were two accounts for Jimbo, I was going to ask him why. That'll teach me not to follow links like that in future - someone should really protect the user pages of hardbanned users. Good thing I didn't follow "Jimmy"'s advice and unban JoeM. I did forward the email to the real Jimbo, though. - [[User:Mark|Mark]] 02:35, 28 Nov 2004 (UTC)
 
==Vandalism by User:84.121.6.92==
 
* ([[User:84.121.6.92]] | [[User_talk:84.121.6.92|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/84.121.6.92|contributions]])
 
Hi! I noticed from your userpage that you are an admin, and is intereested in taking care of vandalism. What is user is doing is not the most clear and obvious vandalism, but if you take a CLOSER look at he is doing, the very most of his edits DO NOT benefit Wikipedia in any way. Actually they create a lot of mess around here IMHO. Noone apart from myself REALLY seems to notice what he is actually doing, and I cant revert all his edit. Its happening too fast now and there is just too many. The reason I mention this to you is that I dont really know what to do about it myself, I am mostly a reader and not a writer here in the Wikipedia. [[User:Stereotek|Stereotek]] 12:49, 27 Nov 2004 (UTC)
 
== reversion ==
 
Thank you for reverting my userpage! I consider it a badge of honor to join the ranks of the resented, LOL. But even more thanks for your endless hard work reverting the vandalism of literally thousands of imbeciles. Peace, [[User:Antandrus|Antandrus]] 03:56, 28 Nov 2004 (UTC)