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==== Category:Amadlozi Brenda Fassie Album ====
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:''The result of the discussion was:'' <!-- Template:Cfd top --> '''delete''' <small>([[Wikipedia:Non-admin closure|non-admin closure]])</small>. [[User:Marcocapelle|Marcocapelle]] ([[User talk:Marcocapelle|talk]]) 13:35, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
:* '''Propose deleting''' {{lc|Amadlozi Brenda Fassie Album}}<br />
:'''Nominator's rationale:''' Incorrect use of category space —[[User:Swpb|<u>swpb</u>]]<sup>[[User talk:Swpb|T]] • [[WP:BEYOND|go beyond]] • [[WP:MIAB|bad idea]]</sup> 18:48, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
* '''Delete''' per nom. Have to assume the person who created this is just an inexperienced editor. <span style="color:blue">Star</span><span style="color:orange">cheers</span><span style="color:green">peaks</span><span style="color:red">news</span>lost<span style="color:blue">wars</span><sup>[[User talk:Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars|Talk to me]]</sup> 17:46, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
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==== Category:LGBT Marxists ====
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:''The result of the discussion was:'' <!-- Template:Cfd top --> '''delete''' <small>([[Wikipedia:Non-admin closure|non-admin closure]])</small>. [[User:Marcocapelle|Marcocapelle]] ([[User talk:Marcocapelle|talk]]) 13:36, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
:* '''Propose deleting''' {{lc|LGBT Marxists}}<br />
:'''Nominator's rationale:''' Possible [[WP:OCEGRS]]. —[[User:Swpb|<u>swpb</u>]]<sup>[[User talk:Swpb|T]] • [[WP:BEYOND|go beyond]] • [[WP:MIAB|bad idea]]</sup> 18:23, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
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*'''Delete''' per nom. [[User:Laurel Lodged|Laurel Lodged]] ([[User talk:Laurel Lodged|talk]]) 21:24, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' as [[WP:NONDEFINING|non-defining]]. As always, we do not create categories for every possible combination of "people who happen to be both X and Y" — in order to justify this category, it would have to be possible to write an article about [[LGBT Marxism]] which contextualized it as a ''thing'' that [[WP:RS|reliable sources]] ''discuss'' and ''analyze''. [[User:Bearcat|Bearcat]] ([[User talk:Bearcat|talk]]) 17:34, 10 January 2019 (UTC)
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==== Category:State-owned enterprises of China ====
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:''The result of the discussion was:'' <!-- Template:Cfd top --> '''relisted, [[Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2019_January_19#Category:Government-owned_companies_of_China|see here]]'''. <small>([[Wikipedia:Non-admin closure|non-admin closure]])</small> [[User:Marcocapelle|Marcocapelle]] ([[User talk:Marcocapelle|talk]]) 10:55, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
:* '''Propose renaming''' [[:Category:Government-owned companies of China]] to [[:Category:State-owned enterprises of China]]
:'''Nominator's rationale:''' Procedural listing. I have reverted the undiscussed move by <span class="template-ping">@[[User:Störm|Störm]]</span>, to restore the ''status quo ante''. This discussion can consider whatever rationale Störm chooses to advance for their proposal. --[[User:BrownHairedGirl|<span style="color:#663200;">Brown</span>HairedGirl]] <small>[[User talk:BrownHairedGirl|(talk)]] • ([[Special:Contributions/BrownHairedGirl|contribs]])</small> 08:18, 11 January 2019 (UTC)
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::Well, the articles also stated the influence of the State Council/central government, plus ''[[nomenklatura]]'', the dual system of the party is the government, thus the firms are leaded by party via government. [[User:Matthew hk|Matthew hk]] ([[User talk:Matthew hk|talk]]) 17:09, 11 January 2019 (UTC)
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==== Churches by city (other continents, dual merge) ====
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:''The result of the discussion was:'' <!-- Template:Cfd top --> '''no consensus'''. This differs from recent nominations of churches because a few categories here currently ''do'' have several articles in them. This likely either needs to be split out further to achieve a clear result or individual attention needs to be paid to each category. ~ [[User:BU Rob13|<b>Rob</b><small><sub>13</sub></small>]]<sup style="margin-left:-1.0ex;">[[User talk:BU Rob13|Talk]]</sup> 02:49, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
:* '''Propose merging''' [[:Category:Churches in Ashtarak]] to [[:Category:Ashtarak]] and [[:Category:Buildings and structures in Aragatsotn Province]]
:* '''Propose merging''' [[:Category:Churches in Asmara]] to [[:Category:Buildings and structures in Asmara]] and [[:Category:Churches in Eritrea]]
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*'''Oppose''' [[WP:SMALLCAT]] only applies to categories that will never have more than a few members. That is not the case for the nominated categories.--[[Special:Contributions/Obi2canibe|Obi2canibe]] ([[User talk:Obi2canibe|talk)]] 17:55, 12 January 2019 (UTC)
::Marcocapelle is also reminded that it is good practice to notify the category's creator when nominating it for deletion.--[[Special:Contributions/Obi2canibe|Obi2canibe]] ([[User talk:Obi2canibe|talk)]] 18:00, 12 January 2019 (UTC)
*'''Support Most/Oppose Bangkok & Wellington''' Conceptually I support this effort since it removing an navigational impediment of having to click through an empty parent category in order to get to the actual articles in the subcategory. Bangkok and Wellington have multiple articles and don't belong in this nomination though. [[User:RevelationDirect|RevelationDirect]] ([[User talk:RevelationDirect|talk]]) 03:10, 27 January 2019 (UTC)
*'''Support''' The vast majority of church buildings are non-notable. So there is little evidence for more, and no good reason to have these categories at present.[[User:Johnpacklambert|John Pack Lambert]] ([[User talk:Johnpacklambert|talk]]) 19:51, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
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==== Churches by city (miscellaneous countries, 1 merge target) ====
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:''The result of the discussion was:'' <!-- Template:Cfd top --> '''merge all'''. ~ [[User:BU Rob13|<b>Rob</b><small><sub>13</sub></small>]]<sup style="margin-left:-1.0ex;">[[User talk:BU Rob13|Talk]]</sup> 04:00, 3 March 2019 (UTC)
:* '''Propose merging''' [[:Category:Churches in Ankara]] to [[:Category:Places of worship in Ankara]]
:* '''Propose merging''' [[:Category:Churches in Ashgabat]] to [[:Category:Buildings and structures in Ashgabat]]
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:'''Nominator's rationale: merge''' per [[WP:SMALLCAT]], the categories only contain 1 article and/or 1 subcategory. In the above cases only one merge target has been specified, because the content is already sufficiently categorized in a denominational churches category of a broader region. For example, the only article of [[:Category:Churches in Ankara]] is already part of [[:Category:Roman Catholic churches in Turkey]] so it does not require merging to [[:Category:Churches in Turkey]]. [[User:Marcocapelle|Marcocapelle]] ([[User talk:Marcocapelle|talk]]) 06:40, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
*'''Support''' but with misgivings about Bethleham. [[User:Laurel Lodged|Laurel Lodged]] ([[User talk:Laurel Lodged|talk]]) 13:55, 12 January 2019 (UTC)
*'''Support Most/Neutral on Bethlehem, Lima & San Juan, PR''' City categories with one article or no articles and a subcategory do not aid navigation. (Unsure if having both 1 article and 1 subcat aids navigation so neutral on those 3.) [[User:RevelationDirect|RevelationDirect]] ([[User talk:RevelationDirect|talk]]) 03:14, 27 January 2019 (UTC)
'''Upmerge''' too small to aid navigation. Wikipedia is plagued by small unneeded categories.[[User:Johnpacklambert|John Pack Lambert]] ([[User talk:Johnpacklambert|talk]]) 19:52, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
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==== Category:Articles by WikiProject ====
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:* '''Propose renaming''' [[:Category:Articles by WikiProject]] to [[:Category:Wikipedia articles by WikiProject]]
:'''Nominator's rationale:''' Standard for administrative categories versus the actual content of the encyclopedia. ―[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 00:21, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
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==== Category:Tropical house singers ====
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:''The result of the discussion was:'' <!-- Template:Cfd top --> '''merge''', while there is no majority in this discussion the closure is based on weight of argument. <small>([[Wikipedia:Non-admin closure|non-admin closure]])</small> [[User:Marcocapelle|Marcocapelle]] ([[User talk:Marcocapelle|talk]]) 09:49, 20 January 2019 (UTC)
:* '''Propose merging''' [[:Category:Tropical house singers]] to [[:Category:Tropical house musicians]]
:'''Nominator's rationale:''' The parent isn't in need of diffusing and there is no [[:Category:House singers]] or [[:Category:Deep house singers]], just [[:Category:House musicians]] and [[:Category:Deep house musicians]]. <span style="color:blue">Star</span><span style="color:orange">cheers</span><span style="color:green">peaks</span><span style="color:red">news</span>lost<span style="color:blue">wars</span><sup>[[User talk:Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars|Talk to me]]</sup> 03:42, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
:@Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars, for example, [[:Category:Synthpop musicians]] to [[:Category:Synthpop singers]] and [[:Category:Hip hop musicians]] to [[:Category:Hip hop singers]]. It need to start new.--<span style="border:2px solid black;margin-top:2px;bottom:2px;font- verdana;background:lightblue" > [[User:Happypillsjr|<
::Those are highly populated categories (both parent "musicians" and child "singers") with necessary diffusion. In this case, a sub-subgenre no less, there are not that many articles in the target and no similar scheme for parent genres. <span style="color:blue">Star</span><span style="color:orange">cheers</span><span style="color:green">peaks</span><span style="color:red">news</span>lost<span style="color:blue">wars</span><sup>[[User talk:Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars|Talk to me]]</sup> 15:01, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
*What if we could create a [[:Category:Tropical house artists]]? [[User:Harmanprtjhj|Harmanprtjhj]] ([[User talk:Harmanprtjhj|talk]]) 01:08, 10 January 2019 (UTC)
*A tropical house is a feature of many zoos. Can we have a less ambiguous name? [[User:Rathfelder|Rathfelder]] ([[User talk:Rathfelder|talk]]) 13:05, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
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==== Category:Live at The Fillmore albums ====
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:''The result of the discussion was:'' <!-- Template:Cfd top --> '''Merge'''. [[User:Timrollpickering|Timrollpickering]] ([[User talk:Timrollpickering|Talk]]) 22:44, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
:* '''Propose merging''' [[:Category:Live at The Fillmore albums]] to [[:Category:Albums_recorded_at_the_Fillmore]]
:'''Nominator's rationale:''' See (e.g.) all subcats of [[:Category:Live albums by venue in the United States]] ―[[User:Koavf|Justin (<span style="color:grey">ko'''a'''vf</span>)]]<span style="color:red">❤[[User talk:Koavf|T]]☮[[Special:Contributions/Koavf|C]]☺[[Special:Emailuser/Koavf|M]]☯</span> 01:40, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
*'''Merge''' per nom. I thought maybe there was an actual series of "Live at the Fillmore" albums, in which a subset of the albums within would be appropriately categorized, but that doesn't appear to be the case. <span style="color:blue">Star</span><span style="color:orange">cheers</span><span style="color:green">peaks</span><span style="color:red">news</span>lost<span style="color:blue">wars</span><sup>[[User talk:Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars|Talk to me]]</sup> 03:22, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
*'''Support merging''' per nom. [[User:Rubbish computer|''Rubbish computer'']] ([[User talk:Rubbish computer|''Talk'']]: [[Special:Contributions/Rubbish computer|''Contribs'']]) 23:16, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
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