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Questionable Notability. "First BBS System for <specific antiquated computer>" with hints of a reference in a outdated COMPUTE!'s Gazette magazine doesn't strike me as particularity notable. [[User:Noian|<span style="color:red;">'''ηoian'''</span>]] [[User talk:Noian|<small><span style="color:MediumSeaGreen;">''‡orever ηew ‡rontiers''</span></small>]] 06:08, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
*'''Keep'''. Once notable, always notable, and at least one reference (in the form of the COMPUTE! Gazette article referred to) exists. References don't have to be online to be valid. - <
::Can you tell me how to verify this assertion? Or for that matter, how designing not the first BBS system in existence, but rather one that worked on a particular system is notable? It seems to be a stretch. [[User:Noian|<span style="color:red;">'''ηoian'''</span>]] [[User talk:Noian|<small><span style="color:MediumSeaGreen;">''‡orever ηew ‡rontiers''</span></small>]] 06:37, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
*<s>'''Keep''' ''IFF'' this content can be adequately sourced. Otherwise, baleet it.</s> [[User:JBsupreme|<span style="color:#BA181F;">JBsupreme</span>]] ([[User talk:JBsupreme|<span style="color:#BA181F;">talk</span>]]) 07:39, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
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::: Thanks for posting that. I've read the entire column, there's no mention of Shannon writing a VIC-20 BBS, only a Commodore 64 one. Instead, [[Tony Ott]] is credited with writing a VIC-20 BBS in that column, but there's no claim that that one was the first BBS for that platform either. So, what we have here based on secondary sources is the author of just another Commodore 64 BBS software. There were dozens of these if look at [[textfiles.com]]. Doesn't qualify anyone for a biography here via [[WP:ANYBIO]] or [[WP:AUTHOR]]. There are also extremely few details about the BBS software itself (14Kb of BASIC, and sold 400 copies); it's very hard to even write an article about that. [[User:Pohta ce-am pohtit|Pcap]] [[User_talk:Pohta ce-am pohtit|<small>ping</small>]] 09:11, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
'''Notice''' I'd like to inform everyone of this message posted on Wikiproject Software by the writer of the article in question. [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk%3AWikiProject_Software&action=historysubmit&diff=341632123&oldid=341255258]. Assistance in verifying and explaining to the new editor about reasons that self published information might be in violation of policy is welcome. [[User:Noian|<span style="color:red;">'''ηoian'''</span>]] [[User talk:Noian|<small><span style="color:MediumSeaGreen;">''‡orever ηew ‡rontiers''</span></small>]] 07:18, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
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