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===[[Doublefuck programming language]]===
[[Doublefuck programming language]] was proposed for deletion. This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion. '''This page is no longer live.''' Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was '''merge with [[Brainfuck]] and redirect'''.
This article seems totally non-notable. [http://www.google.com/search?q=doublefuck+brainfuck About 50 google results], and [http://www.google.com/search?q=doublefuck+brainfuck+-wikipedia about 6 not related to Wikipedia]. It would appear the only information there is (or could possibly ever be) about this language is: "It's [[Brainfuck]] but with two buffers, see [[Brainfuck]] for more information."
Note that this was apparently [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Doublefuck_programming_language&action=history listed] on VfD in late September/early August 2004, but I could find no [[Wikipedia:Archived_delete_debates/October_2004|record]] of its discussion.[[User:CXI|CXI]] 16:06, 22 Dec 2004 (UTC)
:It was considered individually at [[Wikipedia:Votes_for_deletion/Esoteric_programming_language_related/Detail#Doublefuck_programming_language]] and as a block of 74 articles at [[Wikipedia:Votes_for_deletion/Esoteric_programming_language_related]]. --[[User:Korath|Korath]][[User talk:Korath|<sup>会話</sup>]] 03:28, 23 Dec 2004 (UTC)
* Delete. -[[User:Fennec|Fennec]] [[User_Talk:Fennec|(はさばくのきつね)]] 16:10, 22 Dec 2004 (UTC)
* Delete. [[User:Fredrik|Fredrik]] | [[User talk:Fredrik|talk]] 16:12, 22 Dec 2004 (UTC)
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* '''Strong Keep''' and a strong censure to the people who keep putting esoteric programming languages up for vfd. What next, delete Fermat's Last Theorem because the poor guy didn't have enough space in his margin? --[[User:Tony Sidaway|[[User:Tony Sidaway|Tony Sidaway]]|[[User talk:Tony Sidaway#Page_Footer|Talk]]]] 16:37, 22 Dec 2004 (UTC)
**But hey? Making an arbitrary programming language is much easier than coming up with a non-obvious right statement. Wow, I invented the new language: TRIPLEFUCK! It has three memory areas! I r t3h l337z0r3st! [[User:Grue|Grue]] 18:38, 22 Dec 2004 (UTC)
** You don't know what you're talking about. --[[User:Tony Sidaway|[[User:Tony Sidaway|Tony Sidaway]]|[[User talk:Tony Sidaway#Page_Footer|Talk]]]] 22:25, 22 Dec 2004 (UTC)
* '''Keep''' brainfuck is big enough as it is. Add a link to it from brainfuck, and leave it where it is. [[User:Mbecker|<nowiki></nowiki>]] — [[User:Mbecker|<
* Comment: Unsure. I mean, if it were my decision I'd either delete (noting that despite earlier debates there are still no sources or references cited for [[doublefuck]]) or more likely merge and redirect (merging the fact that different opcodes are used and deleting as unencyclopedic exactly what these are). The only attraction I can see for this article is that it gives another opportunity to use naughty words. I think it's good to document and keep this discussion if the article is kept, and harmless to delete the article but unlikely to happen. So no censures, and no vote from me. [[User:Andrewa|Andrewa]] 20:09, 22 Dec 2004 (UTC)
* '''Keep''' and go programming language yourself. [[User:GRider|[[User:GRider|GRider]]\<sup>[[User_talk:GRider|talk]]</sup>]] 20:21, 22 Dec 2004 (UTC)
*'''Keep''' it. [[User:Wyss|Wyss]] 21:38, 22 Dec 2004 (UTC)
*Delete: someone's weekend project. For some reason Wikipedians have no trouble identifying articles about garage bands as useless vanity, but if it's a garage programming language people get their panties all in a twist about deleting it. I guess this is an example of the Wikipedia nerd bias I hear about. [[User:Wile E. Heresiarch|Wile E. Heresiarch]] 21:57, 22 Dec 2004 (UTC)
**Agreed. [[User:Fredrik|Fredrik]] | [[User talk:Fredrik|talk]] 22:48, 22 Dec 2004 (UTC)
**Very well put. [[User:Andrewa|Andrewa]] 03:44, 23 Dec 2004 (UTC)
**Yes, it is an example of the nerd bias you've heard about :) [[User:Wyss|Wyss]] 04:20, 23 Dec 2004 (UTC)
*'''Merge and redirect''' not different enough to be 2 articles. The command table from doublefuck can replace the command table in brainfuck. [[User:DCEdwards1966|DCEdwards1966]] 22:01, Dec 22, 2004 (UTC)
**Good suggestion. This reduces clutter without making the information any harder to find or understand. Still no vote. [[User:Andrewa|Andrewa]] 15:44, 26 Dec 2004 (UTC)
*Fancruft. '''Delete''' (preferably) or '''merge and redirect'''. [[User:Kosebamse|Kosebamse]] 22:02, 22 Dec 2004 (UTC)
*'''Delete'''. Brainfuck is just barely notable as a well-known joke in its field. This is not. --[[User:Korath|Korath]][[User talk:Korath|<sup>会話</sup>]] 22:19, 22 Dec 2004 (UTC)
*'''Strong Keep'''* Why are people trying to delete this, honestly. Are they just being prudish about the name? [[User:CiaraBeth|CiaraBeth]] 23:22, 22 Dec 2004 (UTC)
**Nope. It's just that it seems to be about some fucking shit that no one but a few fucked-up programmers could give Shit One about. Incidently, could we '''delete''' this fucking cant? [[User:Edeans|Edeans]] 01:22, 23 Dec 2004 (UTC)
**Nope. Any more than people are voting to keep just because they're scared of any taint of censorship. Well, probably some are both ways, but most of us recognise that these aren't the main issues here. [[User:Andrewa|Andrewa]] 15:48, 26 Dec 2004 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' it doublefucking quickly. What next? My conlang I invented last weekend? The newsletter I make for my family? My scrapbook? [[User:Dr Zen|Dr Zen]] 23:50, 22 Dec 2004 (UTC)
*'''Merge, weak redirect''' with apologies for being too lazy to write a brainfuck program that prints this opinion. [[User:IMeowbot|iMeowbot]]~[[User talk:IMeowbot|Mw]] 00:26, 23 Dec 2004 (UTC)
*Delete. Or merge/redir. ''brainfuck language'' gets over 12K hits--''doublefuck language'' gets less than 1K hits. Just a minor variation of brainfuck--not worth a separate article. Brainfuck article is only ~14K--plenty of room for variants. [[User:Niteowlneils|Niteowlneils]] 00:40, 23 Dec 2004 (UTC)
*'''Delete''', redirect if you must; the description on [[brainfuck]] says all that needs saying. --[[User:fvw|fvw]][[User talk:Fvw|<SMALL><span style="color:green;">*</span></SMALL>]] 01:07, 2004 Dec 23 (UTC)
*Comment: Now that I've found the previous listing, it seems to me that it was kept before only because it was proposed as an enormous block of deletions. I ask that it be looked at ''on its own merits'', rather than voting with kneejerk "keep"s due its previous listing. --[[User:Korath|Korath]][[User talk:Korath|<sup>会話</sup>]] 03:34, 23 Dec 2004 (UTC)
*'''Merge and redirect'''. This doesn't really need an article of its own; also, it makes more sense when presented as a variant of Brainfuck rather than as an independent entity. [[User:Mindspillage|Mindspillage]] 05:08, 23 Dec 2004 (UTC)
*'''Merge and redirect'''; not worthy of an article, but redirects is nice. --[[User:Golbez|Golbez]] 05:47, Dec 23, 2004 (UTC)
*Delete computer language vanity. Possibly redirect to brainfuck to prevent recreation -- [[User:Cyrius|Cyrius]]|[[User talk:Cyrius|✎]] 08:14, 23 Dec 2004 (UTC)
*'''Merge and re-direct''' to BF. [[User:Dan100|Dan100]] 11:40, Dec 23, 2004 (UTC)
*Delete. [[User:Everyking|Everyking]] 13:01, 23 Dec 2004 (UTC)
*'''Delete'''. If doublefuck should ever grow and be a somewhat significant thing we can include it then. Not now. [[User:Shanes|Shanes]] 13:06, 23 Dec 2004 (UTC)
*'''Merge and redirect''' to BF.
** Unsigned comment by 169.146.191.10 [[User:Grue|Grue]] 13:34, 23 Dec 2004 (UTC)
*'''Delete'''. [[User:Mrwojo|Mrwojo]] 16:12, 23 Dec 2004 (UTC)
*'''MERGE''' [[User:Vacuum|Vacuum]] [[Special:Contributions/Vacuum|c]] 17:03, Dec 23, 2004 (UTC)
*'''Delete'''. Vanity programming language. [[User:Andris|Andris]] 17:07, Dec 23, 2004 (UTC)
*'''Merge and redirect''' to [[Brainfuck]]. The article itself says it needs knowledge of BF to be appreciated, so that's the sensible place for it. -- [[User:Antaeus Feldspar|Antaeus Feldspar]] 17:45, 23 Dec 2004 (UTC)
*'''Delete''', but I guess '''redirect''' is ok too. [[User:TUF-KAT|Tuf-Kat]] 04:00, Dec 24, 2004 (UTC)
*Merge and redirect to [[Brainfuck]] - it really should be a section of that article - [[User:David Gerard|David Gerard]] 14:23, 24 Dec 2004 (UTC)
*Merge and redirect to Brainfuck. [[User:Bryan Derksen|Bryan]] 21:13, 24 Dec 2004 (UTC)
*Keep. [[User:Mark Richards|Mark Richards]] 21:40, 27 Dec 2004 (UTC)
*'''Delete'''. (redirect to brainfuck). No interpreters, no compilers, no programs. [[User:Silsor|silsor]] 01:48, Dec 29, 2004 (UTC)
*'''Merge/redirect'''. [[User:Neutrality|Neutrality]]<sup>[[User talk:Neutrality|talk]]</sup> 03:24, Dec 29, 2004 (UTC)
This page is now preserved as an archive of the debate and, like some other VfD subpages, is no longer 'live'. Subsequent comments on the issue, the deletion or on the decision-making process should be placed on the relevant 'live' pages. '''Please do not edit this page'''.
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