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* '''Delete''' Does not meet [[WP:NOTE]] and is a pretty obscure item by general standards. Just look on the books link and then also search for [[Perl language]] and will see the difference in coverage. [[User:History2007|History2007]] ([[User talk:History2007|talk]]) 09:45, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

*'''Delete''' article fails [[WP:GNG]] and only uses [[WP:PRIMARYSOURCE|primary sources]]. '''⇒[[User:Thine Antique Pen|<span title="My Userpage" style="color:#FF0000">T</span>]][[User talk:Thine Antique Pen|<span title="Talk" style="color:#0000FF">A</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Thine Antique Pen|<span title="Contributions" style="color:#007A00">P</span>]]''' 16:19, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

*'''Keep:''' Julia is a new programming language -- a baby, if you will -- but a very interesting baby, being developed by a group of very talented people, headed by a faculty member of MIT. It is still very young, and its design is not finished, so naturally there are (as yet) no secondary texts. The day when you find "Julia for Dummies" on amazon.com is still a way off. Julia is obscure by comparison to Perl because almost '''every''' programming language is obscure by comparison to Perl. Perl is (or, until recently, was) the most widely-used dynamic language in the world. It is also one of the oldest. A better comparison might be to, say, Google's new [[Dart]] programming language. Which '''does''' have a wikipedia entry.

:So that's why Julia deserves to be in Wikipedia. Now... why Wikipedia should have an article on Julia. Wikipedia is, now, for much of the world, the first place to look for information on any given topic. Julia is a legitimate, if young, programming language, and wikipedia should provide at least a modicum of basic information about it.

:Finally, let me note for the record that I'm not in any way part of the Julia community or the Julia development team. I am a professional programmer who, over the decades, has seen the rise and decline of many programming languages. I feel that new programming languages -- especially languages with as strong a pedigree as Julia -- deserve to be treated with some respect. Some programming languages that are now just starting to become popular (e.g. [[Ruby]]) were once as obscure as Julia is now. So who knows? Perhaps one day, Julia will be as significant a programming language in its chosen niche -- fast processing of statistical data -- as Perl, Python, Ruby, D, Lua, Scala, and Dart are in theirs. [[User:StephenFerg|StephenFerg]] ([[User talk:StephenFerg|talk]]) 09:20, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

* '''Keep'''

Julia is a new programming language -- a baby, if you will -- but a very interesting baby, being developed by a group of very talented people, headed by a faculty member of MIT. It is still very young, and its design is not finished, so naturally there are (as yet) no secondary texts. The day when you find "Julia for Dummies" on amazon.com is still a way off. Julia is obscure by comparison to Perl because almost '''every''' programming language is obscure by comparison to Perl. Perl is (or, until recently, was) the most widely-used dynamic language in the world. It is also one of the oldest. A better comparison might be to, say, Google's new [[Dart]] programming language. Which '''does''' have a wikipedia entry.

::The above argument appears to be a combination of [[WP:ILIKEIT]], [[WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS]], and [[WP:CRYSTAL]]. Just sayin' <span style="border:1px solid;background:#800080">[[User:Purplebackpack89|<span style="color:#FFCC00">p</span>]][[User talk:Purplebackpack89|<span style="color:#FFCC00;">b</span>]][[User:Purplebackpack89/C|<span style="color:#FFCC00;">p</span>]]</span> 14:48, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

So that's why Julia deserves to be in Wikipedia. Now... why Wikipedia should have an article on Julia. Wikipedia is, now, for much of the world, the first place to look for information on any given topic. Julia is a legitimate, if young, programming language, and wikipedia should provide at least a modicum of basic information about it.

*'''Comment''' I think they may have presented something at [[Lang.NEXT]], although I'm not sure if that alone would be sufficient to pass [[WP:GNG]]. —''[[User:Ruud Koot|Ruud]]'' 23:30, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

Finally, let me note for the record that I'm not in any way part of the Julia community or the Julia development team. I am a professional programmer who, over the decades, has seen the rise and decline of many programming languages. I feel that new programming languages -- especially languages with as strong a pedigree as Julia -- deserve to be treated with some respect. Some programming languages that are now just starting to become popular (e.g. [[Ruby]]) were once as obscure as Julia is now. So who knows? Perhaps one day, Julia will be as significant a programming language in its chosen niche -- fast processing of statistical data -- as Perl, Python, Ruby, D, Lua, Scala, and Dart are. [[User:StephenFerg|StephenFerg]] ([[User talk:StephenFerg|talk]]) 09:20, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

** Here: http://channel9.msdn.com/Events/Lang-NEXT/Lang-NEXT-2012/Julia. —''[[User:Ruud Koot|Ruud]]'' 23:31, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

*'''Delete''' No 3rd party sources. Also, fails to meet GNG and several other guidelines. —[[User:Hahc21|<span style="color:#333333;">Hahc</span>]][[User_talk:Hahc21|<span style="color:#333333;">'''21'''</span>]] 23:42, 23 June 2012 (UTC)

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