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The result was '''delete'''. The rewritten/stubified version still does not appear to pass muster with most discussants. [[User:MelanieN|MelanieN]] ([[User talk:MelanieN|talk]]) 02:20, 24 October 2016 (UTC)
===[[Limeroad.com]]===
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[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Limeroad.com&oldid=742990817 My extensive PROD] nearly immediately removed boldly with the thin and unconvincing basis of "news exists", but my concerns explicitly stated that the news found are simply what the company advertises about itself (which is not surprising) or then other simple trivial and unconvincing coverage. My PROD essentially explains everything so I still confirm it. [[User:SwisterTwister|<
:<small class="delsort-notice">Note: This debate has been included in the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Internet|list of Internet-related deletion discussions]]. [[User:Coolabahapple|Coolabahapple]] ([[User talk:Coolabahapple|talk]]) 13:15, 9 October 2016 (UTC)</small>
:<small class="delsort-notice">Note: This debate has been included in the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/India|list of India-related deletion discussions]]. [[User:Coolabahapple|Coolabahapple]] ([[User talk:Coolabahapple|talk]]) 13:15, 9 October 2016 (UTC)</small>
:<small class="delsort-notice">Note: This debate has been included in the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Companies|list of Companies-related deletion discussions]]. [[User:Coolabahapple|Coolabahapple]] ([[User talk:Coolabahapple|talk]]) 13:15, 9 October 2016 (UTC)</small>
*<s>'''delete per nom'''</s> it's been cleaned up since the PROD, but the sourcing is still really bad and too much of it actually fails verification - [[User:David Gerard|David Gerard]] ([[User talk:David Gerard|talk]]) 14:31, 9 October 2016 (UTC)
:*<small>[Duplicate !vote struck. [[User:Unscintillating|Unscintillating]] ([[User talk:Unscintillating|talk]]) 00:20, 24 October 2016 (UTC)]</small>
*'''Keep''' Sadly the company does find mention in the newspapers such as [[The Economic Times]], [[Mint (newspaper)]] and [[Hindustan Times]] which makes it notable according to [[WP:CORP]]
#[http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/small-biz/startups/fashion-curation-apps-like-limeroad-withme-voonik-are-carving-a-business-out-of-recommending-what-to-wear/articleshow/52352645.cms Fashion curation apps like LimeRoad, WithMe, Voonik are carving a business out of recommending what to wear]
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#[http://www.hindustantimes.com/business/limeroad-to-redemption-why-e-com-troubles-make-suchi-mukherjee-happy/story-sAUju0EJoWSvhCif0JAnuN.html LimeRoad to redemption: Why e-com troubles make Suchi Mukherjee happy]
#[http://www.livemint.com/Companies/mvuL9EUPb0SrAcpKbc8L4L/Fashion-etailer-Limeroad-enters-menswear-segment.html Fashion e-tailer Limeroad enters menswear segment]
:The title seems misleading. It should be renamed to [[Limeroad]] or [[LimeRoad]] (The choice of capital R in between is deliberate here going by some articles and .com only suggests its an e-commerce website). Also the "Partnerships,"Online Traffic" and " Awards and Recognition" parts of the article are unsalvageable. It seems to be a stub after all these editing but the company seems to pass the notability test as per the verifiable sources. '''[[user:Vivek7de|<
*'''Delete''' per [[WP:TNT]] -- unsalvageable even if the company is notable. Check out this contribution [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Limeroad.com&type=revision&diff=744117690&oldid=743579774 diff], which restored 3500 worth of promo content, while removing the AfD template. No point to keep this garbage in article history. No prejudice to recreation as [[LimeRoad]] if notability can be proven and better RS exist (which is not likely per the current state of things). But maybe the company will become more notable in the future, who knows? [[User:K.e.coffman|K.e.coffman]] ([[User talk:K.e.coffman|talk]]) 05:59, 14 October 2016 (UTC)
*<s>'''Delete''' It is written like an advertisement. [[User:Runku4g|Runku4g]] ([[User talk:Runku4g|talk]]) 06:15, 14 October 2016 (UTC)</s><br>
::<small>[Revert as per [[WP:BLOCKEVASION]] using strikethrough font. 22:08, 13 November 2016 (UTC)]</small>
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<small>Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <small><span style="border:1px solid black;padding:1px;">[[User:Sandstein|<span style="color:white;background:blue;font-family:sans-serif;">''' Sandstein '''</span>]]</span></small> 15:44, 15 October 2016 (UTC)</small><!-- from Template:Relist --></div><!-- Please add new comments below this line -->
*'''Keep''' sanitized version. It may be doomed to be a stub forever, but there are no rules against that. --[[User:CosmicAdventure|CosmicAdventure]] ([[User talk:CosmicAdventure|talk]]) 19:19, 15 October 2016 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' sanitised version. It's a bit better, but I'm still unconvinced by the sourcing. (Also, why are we sourcing claims about an Indian company's activities in India to not merely an English paper, but an English tabloid.) - [[User:David Gerard|David Gerard]] ([[User talk:David Gerard|talk]]) 19:27, 15 October 2016 (UTC)
*{{yo|Sandstein}} did you mean for there to be a whole new discussion after the break, or is there a duplicate !vote above? [[User:Safehaven86|Safehaven86]] ([[User talk:Safehaven86|talk]]) 21:39, 15 October 2016 (UTC)
**It was specifically phrased as discussion of the sanitised version, so I proceeded discussing that in particular as should be reasonably clear from both Sandstein's actual words and mine - [[User:David Gerard|David Gerard]] ([[User talk:David Gerard|talk]]) 21:45, 15 October 2016 (UTC)
***Your original vote was also in reference to the cleaned up version, hence my inquiry here. I don't think it's standard to !vote twice at AFDs. I also don't think it's standard to respond to good-faith questions with condescension, but it appears irresistible for you to do so. [[User:Safehaven86|Safehaven86]] ([[User talk:Safehaven86|talk]]) 22:09, 15 October 2016 (UTC)
****I am saddened by your assumption of bad faith - [[User:David Gerard|David Gerard]] ([[User talk:David Gerard|talk]]) 22:56, 15 October 2016 (UTC)
*****I addressed a reasonable and legitimate question directly to a different editor, and you responded with the assertion that the answer to my question was "reasonably clear." Obviously it wasn't "reasonably clear" to me, otherwise I wouldn't have asked the question. And you didn't exactly "proceed with discussion", you in fact cast a whole new !vote, hence my very reasonable question about whether users were supposed to cast entirely new !votes after the break, or merely proceed with a discussion of a particular version of the article. The bad faith here was yours, not mine. [[User:Safehaven86|Safehaven86]] ([[User talk:Safehaven86|talk]]) 04:49, 16 October 2016 (UTC)
:This is still the same discussion, so everybody's opinion only counts once. <small><span style="border:1px solid black;padding:1px;">[[User:Sandstein|<span style="color:white;background:blue;font-family:sans-serif;">''' Sandstein '''</span>]]</span></small> 05:59, 16 October 2016 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' -- the "sanitised version" is equally unconvincing. [[User:K.e.coffman|K.e.coffman]] ([[User talk:K.e.coffman|talk]]) 06:03, 16 October 2016 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' to be sanitized or not to be, that is the question: whether 'tis nobler to accept one version over the other; to suffer the slings and arrows of sources that are only PR, repackaged PR, company announcements, company sourced interviews, mundane financial information - Or to take arms against a sea of promotion and say, Wikipedia is not a platform for promotion [[WP:PROMO]]. Alas, to be lacking in GNG and CORPDEPTH is the true state of each version. [[User:Steve Quinn|Steve Quinn]] ([[User talk:Steve Quinn|talk]]) 06:39, 16 October 2016 (UTC)
*'''Comment''' -- If this article does get deleted then I also suggest putting up [[Voonik]] for deletion as it has the same "sea of promotion" in it. '''[[user:Vivek7de|<span style="color:blue;">vivek7de</span>]]'''[[user talk:Vivek7de|<span style="color:green;">--tAlK</span>]] 19:11, 16 October 2016 (UTC)
**Looks pretty promotional, do a [[WP:BEFORE]] and if you can't find stuff that convinces you then by all means put it up for deletion, you don't have to wait on this AFD - [[User:David Gerard|David Gerard]] ([[User talk:David Gerard|talk]]) 19:45, 16 October 2016 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' I'm not really convinced that it meets NCORP and add to that the promo pressure, I go with a delete. The sources are also not very convincing. For example, [http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/small-biz/startups/fashion-curation-apps-like-limeroad-withme-voonik-are-carving-a-business-out-of-recommending-what-to-wear/articleshow/52352645.cms ET] has a very brief coverage (~150 words) out of which 100 words are quotes by the founder and investor. [http://www.hindustantimes.com/business/limeroad-to-redemption-why-e-com-troubles-make-suchi-mukherjee-happy/story-sAUju0EJoWSvhCif0JAnuN.html HT] is an interview of the founder which is not useful per [[WP:CORPIND]]. [http://www.business-standard.com/article/news-ani/indian-fashion-scrapbooking-site-limeroad-raises-30-million-dollar-series-c-115033100253_1.html Business Standard] is a vert brief coverage about funding. [http://www.livemint.com/Companies/mvuL9EUPb0SrAcpKbc8L4L/Fashion-etailer-Limeroad-enters-menswear-segment.html LiveMint] is probably the only source which is somewhat better but not enough. The company has been trying to promote itself but it doesn't seem to have received enough secondary attention.--[[User:Lemongirl942|Lemongirl942]] ([[User talk:Lemongirl942|talk]]) 14:15, 17 October 2016 (UTC)
*'''Keep''' Well over the top for GNG as well as CORP. International coverage in the UK, and coverage of A. M. Marketplaces Pvt Ltd. in businessweek.com, [http://www.bloomberg.com/research/stocks/private/snapshot.asp?privcapId=223308316 link], are further evidence. The only question worth asking is, since it is a startup from 2012, does it satisfy SUSTAINED? This company seems to be beyond just a potential if they are claiming 10000 merchants. As usual, WP:PROMO specifies NPOV, which means that we are required to report why the company has commercial appeal, else the article would not be NPOV (and thus fail WP:PROMO). [[User:Unscintillating|Unscintillating]] ([[User talk:Unscintillating|talk]]) 01:11, 24 October 2016 (UTC)
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