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The result was '''delete''', lmao. [[User:Krimpet|Krimpet]] ([[User talk:Krimpet|talk]]) 00:20, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
 
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*'''Delete'''. Hilarious, but non-[[WP:N|notable]]. -- [[User:Kesh|Kesh]] 01:57, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
**'''Comment''' - A majority of the article is a copyvio of [http://lolcode.com/] and [http://lolcode.com/about]. That moves this to '''Speedy Delete''' G12 territory. -- [[User:Kesh|Kesh]] 07:05, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
***'''Comment''' - I have a strong belief that the owners would happily re-licence under GFDL if asked. -- [[User:Taral|Taral]] 16:18, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
*'''Delete''', non-notable <s>fictional</s> programming language still in its infancy. <span style="font-family:serif;">&mdash;[[User:Ptkfgs|ptk]]✰[[User_talk:Ptkfgs|fgs]]</span> 21:15, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' not notable -- [[User:Powerlord|Powerlord]] 06:03, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' Much as I love lolcode, I don't think it's notable enough for inclusion yet. A sentence or two about it in [[Lolcat]] would be more appropriate. -- [[User:VitriolUK|VitriolUK]] 10:03, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
* '''Weak delete''' for now. It presently lacks notability, but it may merit inclusion should it become non-fictional. A short section in Lolcats (but not copyvio) would be sensible. [[User:Ian13|<span style="color:#067"><u>Ian</u>¹³</span>]][[User talk:Ian13|<span style="font-variant:small-caps">/t</span>]] 11:53, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
* '''Delete''' (changed from keep). Non-notable but should have a section in [[Lolcat]]. — [[User:Taggard|<fontspan colorstyle="color:dodgerblue;">[[User:Taggard|'''T'''</fontspan><fontspan colorstyle="color:blue;">aggard]]</fontspan>]] <small>(<font color="Red">[[User_talk:Taggard|<span style="color:red;">Complain]]</fontspan>]])</small> 11:55, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
* '''Delete''', mention in [[locat]]. Too new to establish notability, no real sources yet. --[[User:Stlemur|Stlemur]] 14:09, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
* '''Keep''', LOLCODE is a programming language, while Lolcat is a meme. Though the language is inspired by Lolcat, they are too completely different entities. Would you merge the article for the Python language with Monty Python (which it is named for)? Additionally, it is not a "fictional" language. It has a PHP-based web framework (LOLCODE on Monorail) and several [http://lolcode.com/implementations/implementations| implementations] via .NET and the Java SDK. [[User:71.61.15.192|71.61.15.192]] 15:51, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
**'''Comment''' I suggest, then, mentioning LOLCODE in the esoteric language entry.[[User:Vudicarus|Vudicarus]] 20:55, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
* '''Delete''' and make cursory mention in [[lolcat]]. [[User:MrZaius|<fontspan colorstyle="color:Blue;">'''MrZaius'''</fontspan>]]<sup>[[User talk:MrZaius|'''<fontspan colorstyle="color:Blue;">talk</fontspan>''']]</sup> 15:53, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
* '''Delete''' Although it is not fictional (as noted by 71.61.15.162), as this point it isn't notable. A brief mention in [[Lolcat]] should suffice for now, until notability is established (if ever). [[User:P3net|P3net]] 15:56, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
* Teh '''merge''' to [[lolcat]], heavily condensed. It is worth a mention that there's now a language based on lolcat-speak, but it doesn't need nearly this much detail, particularly when most of teh article is just copy-and-paste from teh website. [[User:JIP|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#CC0000;">J</fontspan><fontspan colorstyle="color:#00CC00;">I</fontspan><fontspan colorstyle="color:#0000CC;">P</fontspan>]] | [[User talk:JIP|Talk]] 16:27, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
* '''Weak Keep'''. Notable as a meme -- I don't think many people are programming in it, but quite a few people are talking about it. "About" 250,000 ghits. Reliable source: [http://itre.cis.upenn.edu/~myl/languagelog/archives/004553.html] I don't think this is a copyvio; all the text appears to be original, only the examples have been copied. IMO, the examples probably count as fair use. Besides, the original is creative-commons licensed, so probably not a ''huge'' issue anyway. [[User:JulesH|JulesH]] 16:41, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
* '''Delete''' and minimal merge with lolcat. If we must have 'memes' on Wikipedia, let's keep it to the minimum possible. ''[[User:Angus Lepper|Angus Lepper]]<sup>([[User talk:Angus Lepper|T]], [[Special:Contributions/Angus Lepper|C]], [[User:Angus Lepper/Desktop|D]])</sup>'' 18:27, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
*Hai! Plz can has lolcode in mah wikipedia? Do not want? O noes! '''Kthxbye'''. [[User:Serpent's Choice|Serpent&#39;s Choice]] 19:52, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
**Teh lolzorzz. Iz that is a delete? [[User:JIP|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#CC0000;">J</fontspan><fontspan colorstyle="color:#00CC00;">I</fontspan><fontspan colorstyle="color:#0000CC;">P</fontspan>]] | [[User talk:JIP|Talk]] 20:09, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
***I ''wanted'' to type, "Delete: No coverage in reliable sources and no notability as a programming language." But the temptation was too great. [[User:Serpent's Choice|Serpent&#39;s Choice]] 20:20, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
* '''Merge''' as proposed. It's interesting, but not notable enough to have its own page. [[User:Taral|Taral]] 21:48, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
* '''Comment''', I don't understand why so many people think it should be merged. Though though LOLCODE draws from LOLcat, they are unrelated. One is a programming language while the other is a meme. If languages such as [[Brainfuck]] and [[Whitespace]] have their own pages, why shouldn't LOLCODE?<small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:71.61.15.192|71.61.15.192]] ([[User talk:71.61.15.192|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/71.61.15.192|contribs]]) 21:50, June 2, 2007</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned -->
**The issue is [[WP:N|notability]]. The language doesn't have any, the meme does, and LOLOCODE draws its inspiration from the meme. It isn't notable enough for its own article, but it'd be worth a small section in the LOLCAT article. -- [[User:Kesh|Kesh]] 03:45, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
* '''Keep''' it is a programming language [[User:Kevin Ricci|Kevin Ricci]] 22:01, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
**Please provide a reason within Wikipedia policies for keeping. We know it's a programming language, but existance is not a reason for something to have an article. -- [[User:Kesh|Kesh]] 03:41, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
* '''Strong Merge''' It is a rapidly growing programming languare, that has an established syntax, has a large website and community, and may have a compiler soon. Although it is not notable enough for an article, there should be a large section on it in [[Lolcat]] with a link to its website. [[User:68.40.85.31|68.40.85.31]] 03:31, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
*'''Delete''' The code has just been created, but hasn't received wide enough coverage by reliable sources yet. This really literally is something "made up one day". At present, it should at most have a mention in lolcat, but not have its article yet.--[[User:Kylohk|Kylohk]] 19:55, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
* '''Keep''' The codebase is actively growing, it has ports to Python, PHP, Compilers, Interpreters. It has SQLLite support. Mainly, if the question is, 'Is someone looking for esoteric computer languages going to be interested in seeing this article or is the person going to ignore it', the answer in my mind is firmly that the person looking for the article would be interested. Furthermore, there is no point in mentioning a computer language without giving example syntax. And since providing syntax examples for this language on the lolcat article is not appropriate, a separate article is.--[[User:208.49.103.100|208.49.103.100]] 18:02, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
* '''Transwiki''' - Make it a Wikibook. - [[User:ElbridgeGerry|ElbridgeGerry]] <small>[[User talk:ElbridgeGerry|t]] [[Special:Contributions/ElbridgeGerry|c]] [[Special:Blockip/ElbridgeGerry|block]]</small> 21:17, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
* '''Keep''' I see nothing unverifiable here. The copyvios can be removed editorially. [[User:Vadder|Vadder]] 14:38, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
 
sometimes things become notable without a lot of history. wikipedia is big enough to have an article about something as interesting as lolcode. a programming language where the code is automatically funny to read. awesome concept. <small>—The preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment was added by [[Special:Contributions/{{{IP|{{{User|155.143.197.229}}}}}}|{{{IP|{{{User|155.143.197.229}}}}}}]] ([[User talk:{{{IP|{{{User|155.143.197.229}}}}}}|talk]]) {{{Time|21:25, 4 June 2007 (UTC)}}}</small><!-- Template:UnsignedIP -->
* '''KEPE THZ''' how will kool katz in the future know what LOLCODE was? More useful than much tedious wikipoo in WP! [[User:SamTheCentipede|SamTheCentipede]] 17:53, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
 
* '''KEEP''' - I know some see it as a joke but they already have working Compilers, web servers, SQL and it is even being touted as a demonstration of how collaborative development can be positive. It is also a valid esoteric language. --[[User:Archeus|Archeus]] 19:41, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
 
* Don't know if it satisfies notability, but it gets a mention at http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/business/4862013.html now. --Adam Lindsay --[[User:194.42.125.16|194.42.125.16]] 20:18, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
 
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