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The result was '''redirect and merge to a page to be determined'''. [[User:Tanthalas39|<
===[[Master Control Program (Tron)]]===
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:::::::*Everything related to [[Yorick]] is in the context of Shakespeare's ''[[Hamlet]]'', but for being just a skull in a play, I doubt anyone would question that character's independent notability. [[User:DHowell|DHowell]] ([[User talk:DHowell|talk]]) 21:32, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
*'''Keep''' per Hobit. Seems to have substantial cultural recognition. [[User:Everyking|Everyking]] ([[User talk:Everyking|talk]]) 06:43, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
*'''Keep as Merge into [[Characters of Tron]]'''. This is a well-known movie that has real-world popular cultural success. The main article has no characters section, likely because these minor character articles exist. Marge them together as a split off the main Tron article. [[User_talk:Benjiboi|<small><u style="text-decoration:none;font-family: papyrus;color:#CC00CC">Banj<
**I think that would be a good idea. [[User:Everyking|Everyking]] ([[User talk:Everyking|talk]]) 18:32, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
***If you can pull that off without violating [[WP:FICT]] and [[WP:TRIVIA]], be my guest. But I have my doubts that that will be possible. — '''[[User:KieferSkunk|KieferSkunk]]''' ([[User talk:KieferSkunk|talk]]) — 19:47, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
****How cany anyone violate [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Notability_%28fiction%29&action=history WP:FICT], given that the community has yet to even decide if it is historical, an essays, etc.? --<
*****We may not have a full consensus on that one yet, but the overall spirit of the essay/guideline is to ensure that articles about fictional content don't go into an unnecessary level of depth about the fictional universe, characters, etc. In general (and in keeping with the core policies, [[WP:NOT]], etc.), we want to keep such info limited to what is necessary to understand the topic as a whole. Trivia and in-depth descriptions are rarely appropriate - not to say they are ''never'' appropriate, but it's not very often that they are. — '''[[User:KieferSkunk|KieferSkunk]]''' ([[User talk:KieferSkunk|talk]]) — 20:33, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
******I don't see who's to say what is and is not necessary. Obviously those who created, worked on, and read this article believe comprehensive coverage to be appropriate. Plus, as a sub or spinoff article, I am not sure why we shouldn't cover particular aspects of a fictional work in this fashion so long as we are able to source the content. --<
'''Merge''' into [[Tron (film)]]. It seems that Tron is a popular movie and a large article, so this article would be a nice addition to it. [[User:NuclearWarfare|<span style="color:#E52B50;">NuclearWarfare</span>]]''''' [[User talk:NuclearWarfare|<sup style="color:green;">contact me</sup>]]'''''[[Special:Contributions/NuclearWarfare|<sub style="color:purple;">My work</sub>]] 21:07, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
*'''Keep''' or at least '''merge and redirect''' to [[Tron (film)]] or a new [[Characters of Tron]] article. As a major character in a relatively popular film, it's notability is certainly suggested by being a character in ''[[Kingdom Hearts II]]'' and being parodied on ''[[South Park]]''. Please also note that the searching for "Master Control Program" and Tron gets 34 hits at [http://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=%22Master%20Control%20Program%22%20Tron Google Scholar], showing ''academic'' notability. While I don't have access to most of these items, some of the search results suggest more than just incedental coverage of the subject in relation to the film, e.g. the title of the article '[http://www.jstor.org/pss/1212218 Sign of the Times: The Computer as Character in" Tron, War Games", and" Superman III"]' suggests that it probably does have analysis of the character itself. But even if the notability of this character weren't sufficiently independent of the film, there is no reason to delete this article for lack of notability when an appropriate merge target exists. [[User:DHowell|DHowell]] ([[User talk:DHowell|talk]]) 21:32, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
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*<small>'''Note''': This debate has been included in the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Science fiction|list of Science fiction-related deletion discussions]]. </small> <small>-- [[User:Ned Scott|Ned Scott]] 06:43, 1 August 2008 (UTC)</small>
*'''Keep''' Tron was a groundbreaking movie and MCP's influence on subsequent popular culture, is indeed notable. [[User:RMHED|RMHED]] ([[User talk:RMHED|talk]]) 18:11, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
*'''Keep''' per my arguments expressed as replies above as well as per [[Wikipedia:Five pillars]] (notability to a real-world audience, unoriginal research, consistent with a “specialized encyclopedia” concerning verifiable fictional topics with importance in the real world) and [[User:Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles#What Wikipedia is:|What Wikipedia is]]. --<
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