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The result was '''no consensus'''. [[User:Shimeru|<span style="color:DarkRed;">'''''Shi'''''</span>]][[User talk:Shimeru|<span style="color:Indigo;">''meru''</span>]] 06:02, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
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<s>Unremarkable</s>Non notable open source project. Sourceforge files list shows very few downloads and not a lot of google hits. Nothing to show [[WP:notability]]. Article is unreferenced. A similar article was PRODed last year named MooseFS - seems this was set up in its place and was missed at the time. Disputed Prod. Since the prod, a reference to a Polish magazine article in a pdf hosted on the projects own website has been added. [[User:Noq|noq]] ([[User talk:Noq|talk]]) 12:24, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
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You are right though that the article is missing some neccesary elements, notably the references section needs expanding. I'll do that as soon as possible. As to the "reliable source", I'm not qiute sure what is considered a "reliable source" when it comes to an open source software project, especially when it does not have academical origins. Anyway I hope the article in Linux magazine is "reliable" enough. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Ales-76|Ales-76]] ([[User talk:Ales-76|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Ales-76|contribs]]) 13:07, 2 June 2010 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
:A single reference hosted on the projects website is unlikely to be enough. My look through google did not find any significant coverage hence bringing the article here. [[User:Noq|noq]] ([[User talk:Noq|talk]]) 17:30, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
The reference is hosted on the projects website, correct. But the article is from reliable source and it is not otherwise freely accessible - one would have to buy or borrow printed issue of the Linux Magazine. Hosting articles about a product is not uncommon practice, by example semiconductor manufacturers quite often offer free downloadable issue of Microprocessor report (which is otherwise damn expensive), when it is about their product. There is nothing wrong with that. If one reference from notable source is not enough than too bad, but at the moment I cannot provide more. Hopefully in couple of months the situation will be different, MooseFS just got into FreeBSD ports so I guess the number of users is growing. And by the way, Google shows over 30000 hits for MooseFS. I could expand the article with links to some web resources like blogs and such, but I guess these won't be considered reliable, and in deed the content is often sketchy and unmethodical. In any case, it seems to me that the only thing valid from the original claim for removal is that there is only one reference. I admit that, and I do understand that editors of Wikipedia act on good will, so that the content of every article is backed up by a reliable source. However, I think that the Wikipedia audience has more to loose than gain by removing the article, since era of distributed storage is just coming and people come here to get the picture, to find out what it is about and to see what options they have. [[User:Ales-76|Ales-76]] ([[User talk:Ales-76|talk]]) 23:13, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
:If you set google to return 100 results, you will find that while the initial page has thousands of hits, it only returns something over 400. Looking through those nothing stood out as notable. [[User:Noq|noq]] ([[User talk:Noq|talk]]) 00:07, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
*<small class="delsort-notice">'''Note''': This debate has been included in the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Computing|list of Computing-related deletion discussions]]. <!--Template:Deletion sorting--></small> <small>-- [[User:Gene93k|• Gene93k]] ([[User talk:Gene93k|talk]]) 13:34, 2 June 2010 (UTC)</small>
* '''Keep''' When did we start requiring that subjects be "remarkable" too? [[User:Andy Dingley|Andy Dingley]] ([[User talk:Andy Dingley|talk]]) 13:51, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
**Remarkable isn't a requirement, but notability is. [[User:Joe Chill|Joe Chill]] ([[User talk:Joe Chill|talk]]) 14:18, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
**sloppy wording on my part - now corrected. [[User:Noq|noq]] ([[User talk:Noq|talk]]) 17:30, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
*'''Delete''': One source with significant coverage isn't enough and I can't find anymore. [[User:Joe Chill|Joe Chill]] ([[User talk:Joe Chill|talk]]) 14:18, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
*<s>'''Delete'''</s> '''Comment''': I think one reputable source with significant coverage would be enough to establish notability of a file system. On the one hand, [[Linux Magazine]] is apparently reputable; on the other, the source's author Mariusz Gądarowski appears to be affiliated with MooseFS creators Gemius SA and Jakub Kruszona-Zawadzki.[http://pl.linkedin.com/pub/mariusz-gądarowski/4/747/465] Given that I can't read the article, it's difficult to reconcile these factors. And – I also can't find any more sources. --[[User:Pnm|Pnm]] ([[User talk:Pnm|talk]]) 00:52, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
*'''Keep''' I came to this article to learn about MooseFS, with the benefit of the same NPOV standards that are available for its competitors. If someone is willing to keep the article up to date (one sign of a healthy project), then there is no reason to hide this information. Properly functioning distributed file systems are a rare breed, and the underlying data storage decision is a critical one for an organization; that makes this is a notable and relevant project, whether or not an organization decides to use it. Meanwhile, Pnm discounts Linux Magazine's standard operating procedure too quickly, while also complaining about the language; these are not reasons for deletion. - [[User:Rgrant|Rgrant]] ([[User talk:Rgrant|talk]]) 20:28, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
**I've been thinking about this. I'm ambivalent about the deletion. Seems like a useful article, but I can't verify that it meets the "requirements." --[[User:Pnm|Pnm]] ([[User talk:Pnm|talk]]) 23:33, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
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*'''Delete''' Notability doesn't appear to be proven or provable imo. [[User:Minkythecat|Minkythecat]] ([[User talk:Minkythecat|talk]]) 09:05, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
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