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===[[:PAM Development]]===

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The result was '''delete and redirect''' to [[2K Sports]]. [[User:Spartaz|Spartaz]] ^{''[[User talk:Spartaz|Humbug!]]''} 19:47, 9 April 2018 (UTC)

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No signs of notability, fails [[WP:GNG]]/[[WP:CORPDEPTH]]. [[User:Lordtobi|<span style="font-family: Impact;">Lordtobi</span>]] ([[User talk:Lordtobi|<span style="color: #B0B0B0;">&#9993;</span>]]) 08:39, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

:<small class="delsort-notice">Note: This discussion has been included in the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Video games|list of Video games-related deletion discussions]]. [[User:Mark the train|<span style="font-family:Forte;">MT Train</span>]]^{[[User talk:Mark the train|<span style="font-family:Segoe script;">''Talk''</span>]]} 10:32, 1 April 2018 (UTC)</small>

:<small class="delsort-notice">Note: This discussion has been included in the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Companies|list of Companies-related deletion discussions]]. [[User:Mark the train|<span style="font-family:Forte;">MT Train</span>]]^{[[User talk:Mark the train|<span style="font-family:Segoe script;">''Talk''</span>]]} 10:32, 1 April 2018 (UTC)</small>

:<small class="delsort-notice">Note: This discussion has been included in the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/France|list of France-related deletion discussions]]. [[User:Mark the train|<span style="font-family:Forte;">MT Train</span>]]^{[[User talk:Mark the train|<span style="font-family:Segoe script;">''Talk''</span>]]} 10:32, 1 April 2018 (UTC)</small>

*'''Question:''' Why can't it be '''merged/redirected''' to [[2K Sports]]? Regards [[User:SoWhy|<b style="color:#7A2F2F; font-variant:small-caps">So</b>]][[User talk:SoWhy|<b style="color:#474F84; font-variant:small-caps">Why</b>]] 10:38, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

*:The company was independent for 10 of its 13 years of lifetime, yet we have just about no information on it. The one-liner on the 2K Sports is not quite enough to justify a redirect, as the reader will find out practically nothing if they were sent there. [[User:Lordtobi|<span style="font-family: Impact;">Lordtobi</span>]] ([[User talk:Lordtobi|<span style="color: #B0B0B0;">&#9993;</span>]]) 10:50, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

*::Well, they will learn that the company was later part of 2K Sports. If we delete the article without a redirect, they won't even learn that. So how is the latter preferable? Regards [[User:SoWhy|<b style="color:#7A2F2F; font-variant:small-caps">So</b>]][[User talk:SoWhy|<b style="color:#474F84; font-variant:small-caps">Why</b>]] 11:07, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

*:::Truly a good argument, but I think it should be cleansed of its history so it is not restored over and over by uninformed users (I'm often seeing this on redirect-AfD'd articles that some random users wish to keep against consensus and keep restoring post-closure). I think I'd not be opposed to re-redirecting it afterwards. [[User:Lordtobi|<span style="font-family: Impact;">Lordtobi</span>]] ([[User talk:Lordtobi|<span style="color: #B0B0B0;">&#9993;</span>]]) 19:19, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

*'''Keep''' Their products were notable to have their own pages and one was licensed from a major (if poor) film and the other licensed a highly popular football player, the company will have more than enough sources out there to sustain an article.[[Special:Contributions/217.43.203.61|217.43.203.61]] ([[User talk:217.43.203.61|talk]]) 19:00, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

*:Per [[WP:INHERIT]], this is not a valid reason to keep the article. There are sources that say that the company developed a game, but there is no actual info about the company. We don't even know who the company was founded by, for example, or when it was bought by Gaia Capital Group (which it was at one point). [[User:Lordtobi|<span style="font-family: Impact;">Lordtobi</span>]] ([[User talk:Lordtobi|<span style="color: #B0B0B0;">&#9993;</span>]]) 19:19, 1 April 2018 (UTC)

*'''Redirect''' - This outlined above is probably the best outcome. As it can't satisfy it's own article, and is later purchased by 2K sports, a redirect is preferable. '''[[User:Lee Vilenski|<span style="color:green">Lee Vilenski</span>]] ^{([[User talk:Lee Vilenski|talk]] • [[Special:Contribs/Lee Vilenski|contribs]])}''' 08:31, 9 April 2018 (UTC)

*'''Redirect''' to and/or '''merge''' with [[2K Sports]]. That is most likely the best outcome that could arise as it can't stand on its own. As for deleting and then redirecting, would just semi-protecting (or higher) the redirect suffice? That would (at minimum, depending on level) prevent IP and new editors from reverting it. --[[User:TheSandDoctor|<span style="color:#FF9933; font-weight:bold; font-family:monotype;">The</span><span style="color:#009933; font-weight:bold;">SandDoctor</span>]] ^{[[User talk:TheSandDoctor|<span style="color:#009933;">Talk</span>]]} 14:53, 9 April 2018 (UTC)

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