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The result was '''Delete'''. [[User:Bjweeks|BJ]]<small>^{[[User talk:Bjweeks|Talk]]}</small> 17:53, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

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'''Delete''' promotional article about a programming development system. This is clearly an advert, including phrases such as ''"It's Very fun like a game"'', and an internet search yields just a [http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&q=%22Programming+Without+Coding+Technology%22 few hits], which is indicative of lack of notability in this particular field. [[User:Mindmatrix|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#8b4513;">Mind</span>]][[UserUser_talk:Mindmatrix|Mind]]</font><fontspan colorstyle="color:#ee8811;">[[User_talk:Mindmatrix|matrix]]</fontspan>]] 13:26, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

'''Comment'''With respect to the first point

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[[User:Mahmoud Fayed|Mahmoud Fayed]] ([[User talk:Mahmoud Fayed|talk]]) 13:58, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

::Again, and hopefully for the final time. Please read these policies [[WP:N| notability]], [[WP:V| verifiability]], [[WP:COI| Conflict of Interest]]. Make sure the article complies and you won't have to do anything else. [[User:Jasynnash2|Jasynnash2]] ([[User talk:Jasynnash2|talk]]) 14:03, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

:::WowNow guys, [[Wikipedia:Please_do_not_bite_the_newcomers|is there a need to be so rude]]? You could help by telling him what the rule means in short, instead of making him read piles of legalese to find it out. [[User:Diego Moya|Diego]] ([[User talk:Diego Moya|talk]]) 19:21, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

: Mahmoud: your project must be famous before it gets a Wikipedia page. That's why it's getting deleted. You should talk about it in [http://freshmeat.net Freshmeat] and other technical sites to get people know it, Wikipedia is not the right place for this. [[User:Diego Moya|Diego]] ([[User talk:Diego Moya|talk]]) 19:23, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

*'''Delete''', [[WP:OR|original research]] and a [[WP:NEO|neologism]] with no showing of particular notability. Inventing vague new management philosophies for managing computer programmers seems to be a growth industry. - [[User:Ihcoyc|Smerdis of Tlön]] ([[User talk:Ihcoyc|talk]]) 14:12, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

*<small>'''Note''': This debate has been included in the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Computing|list of Computing-related deletion discussions]]. </small> <small>-- [[User:Fabrictramp|<span style="color:#960018;font-family:comic sans ms;">Fabrictramp</span>]] | [[User talk:Fabrictramp|<span style="color:#960018;font-family:Papyrus;">talk to me</span>]] 00:19, 9 August 2008 (UTC)</small>

Hi

At first with respect to project name there is no contradiction because programming is not coding, programming is a goal, and coding is a method to achieve that goal

you can look at

http://expresscode.wordpress.com/2007/03/24/coding-vs-programming/

With respect to freshmate, my project works only on MS-Windows and freshmate doesn't accept projects that works only

on MS-Windows

With respect to other resources refer to the project

it's well known in the xharbour community

1 - http://www.xharbour.org/index.asp?page=product/thirdparty

you will find a link to the project under the name

(Mahmoud DoubleS (Super Server) Framework)

2 - http://www.xharbour.com/xhc/index.asp?page=xhc_download.asp&show_h=8&show_i=8&show_sub=2

you will find an abstract for the project for download

3 - http://www.the-holms.org/xharbour/addon.htm

you will find a link to the project under the name (doublesvsoop)

Also on sourceforge [ 06/08/2008 (dd/mm/yyyy) ]

my project rank is 134 of (more than 130,000 projects)

with active percentage = 99.94%

i hope that this is what is required ?

Greetings,

[[User:Mahmoud Fayed|Mahmoud Fayed]] ([[User talk:Mahmoud Fayed|talk]]) 13:44, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

: As has been pointed out countless times, the project has not been covered in second party reliable sources. This is an encyclopedia, not a place to promote your work. --<span style="color:black; background: white; border: 1.5pt dotted black; padding: 0pt 4pt;">neon white</span><small> [[User_talk:Neon white|talk]]</small> 16:14, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

The same article, published on www.codeproject.com

at this link http://www.codeproject.com/KB/winsdk/programmingwithoucoding.aspx

is codeproject considered as second party reliable sources ?

[[User:Mahmoud Fayed|Mahmoud Fayed]] ([[User talk:Mahmoud Fayed|talk]]) 12:41, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

:No, because you wrote the article, and you aren't independent of the subject of the article. Any reliable sources used to indicate notability must be independent of the project. [[User:Silverfish|Silverfish]] ([[User talk:Silverfish|talk]]) 13:01, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

*'''Delete''' - no reliable sources to establish notability -- [[User:Whpq|Whpq]] ([[User talk:Whpq|talk]]) 16:25, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

* '''Delete'''. Blatant advertising and a non-starter of an idea anyway. &mdash; [[User:RHaworth|RHaworth]] ([[User talk:RHaworth|Talk]] | [[special:contributions/RHaworth|contribs]]) 10:20, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

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