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==Yes==

I should have kept the fact that he was killed afterwards, didn't I? I can't remember if I did or not. The actual certain event of his death is somewhat hazy in historical records, if I recall reading a while back. Conflicting accounts of how he actually died after he fled Beijing.--<strong>[[User:PericlesofAthens|<fontspan colorstyle="color:blue;">Pericles of Athens</fontspan>]]</strong>^{[[User talk:PericlesofAthens|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0000CD;">Talk</fontspan>]]} 00:33, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

::Of course you should note his final outcome, but leave the info about him fleeing Beijing, I will add to that. It is important. He was forced to flee Beijing because unlike Dorgon and Wu, had had no discipline and authority amongst his rag-tag ranks, who disobeyed his orders and pillaged the city at will. When word came of the approaching standards of Wu Sangui (with Dorgon in the rear, so as to present to the Chinese as if a Chinese general alone was coming to their aid, not realizing the political maneuvering of Dorgon), Li had no choice BUT to flee. He was not in control of Beijing, it was in total chaos. That is worth mentioning. Had he had discipline amongst his ranks he might have had a chance at defending such a paramount position as the capital itself. It is important that readers understand this. Please, do not leave that out, I will expand later with proper sources. This is my second to last week of school, I will be doing MAJOR reconstruction to the Ming article afterwards. Thank you for your help. It is very much needed for such a hefty topic as a three century period of China.--<strong>[[User:PericlesofAthens|<fontspan colorstyle="color:blue;">Pericles of Athens</fontspan>]]</strong>^{[[User talk:PericlesofAthens|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0000CD;">Talk</fontspan>]]} 06:00, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

==Hi again==

With your edits to [[Huolongjing]], we will need more than just the title of the book in that citation you gave about Juan de Mendoca; I'll need actual page numbers for those if you still have the book ''Late Imperial Chinese Armies'' on hand. Thanks.--<strong>[[User:PericlesofAthens|<fontspan colorstyle="color:blue;">Pericles of Athens</fontspan>]]</strong>^{[[User talk:PericlesofAthens|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0000CD;">Talk</fontspan>]]} 01:21, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

==Long time no see!==

Fancy seeing you again! Thanks for providing this quote on my talk page. It should be very useful indeed. I'll find a way to include it in the article. However, it is late, and I am off to bed for now. Cheers.--<strong>[[User:PericlesofAthens|<fontspan colorstyle="color:blue;">Pericles of Athens</fontspan>]]</strong>^{[[User talk:PericlesofAthens|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0000CD;">Talk</fontspan>]]} 06:33, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

==Response China military history==

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==Huolongjing==

Actually, that picture ''is not'' from the [[Huolongjing]], so it is perhaps misleading to place it in the article, let alone the lead. I'll see if I can find a worthy replacement image.--<strong>[[User:PericlesofAthens|<fontspan colorstyle="color:blue;">Pericles of Athens</fontspan>]]</strong>^{[[User talk:PericlesofAthens|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0000CD;">Talk</fontspan>]]} 16:04, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

==Government of the Han Dynasty ==

Hi Gnip. Are you certain about this? Prof. Gary Lee Todd did not provide any sort of wall plaque describing the artwork, but he did place the image in a page specifically labeled as showing Chinese artwork from its inception up to the end of the Han Dynasty. Could you provide some sort of comparison artworks from the Sui/Tang Dynasties? I've also seen many Han stone reliefs; some reliefs provided on that page by Professor Todd are unquestionably from Han period tomb walls. However, the lack of wear-and-tear and lanky artistic style on the image in question does raise an eyebrow or two, I will admit. I'll need more evidence, though, before I am totally convinced that the images should be removed. Cheers!--<strong>[[User:PericlesofAthens|<fontspan colorstyle="color:blue;">Pericles of Athens</fontspan>]]</strong>^{[[User talk:PericlesofAthens|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0000CD;">Talk</fontspan>]]} 05:08, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

::I'm fairly convinced now! Thank you for the excellent links. I will prepare some replacement images for these reliefs by tonight. Cheers.--<strong>[[User:PericlesofAthens|<fontspan colorstyle="color:blue;">Pericles of Athens</fontspan>]]</strong>^{[[User talk:PericlesofAthens|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#0000CD;">Talk</fontspan>]]} 19:39, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

== gunpowder ==

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:I'm not sure what you mean. I checked the sources and the last one was pretty specific that gunpowder bombs were thrown on catapults. Gunpowder bombs were called "thundercrash bombs" during this era, but I don't know why that should be important. I think I can help better if you clarify what you're trying to do. [[User:Gnip|Gnip]] ([[User talk:Gnip|talk]]) 5:43, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

::I'm going to create an article on how the Mongols adopted and transferred military technology, which was generally either from China or the Islamic world, seeing as they didn't pick anything up in Europe (they [[Mongol invasion of Europe|bulldozed all of their European opponents]] pretty fast), compared to the over 30 year invasion of China. Sources mention some sort of hand pulled trebuchets hurling bombs and maybe some form of primitive rocket in use, but no cannon.[[User:DÜNGÁNÈ|DÜNGÁNÈ]] ([[User talk:DÜNGÁNÈ|talk]]) 22:33, 9 August 2011 (UTC)

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