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:# [[User:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#cc6600;">Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs</span>]]^{<small>([[User talk:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#ff6600;">talk</span>]])</small>} 15:40, 28 July 2011 (UTC)

:# &mdash;&nbsp;[[User:Coren|Coren]]&nbsp;^{[[User Talk:Coren|(talk)]]} 23:34, 28 July 2011 (UTC)

:# –[[user:xeno|<fontspan facestyle="font-family:verdana"; color=":black;">'''xeno'''</fontspan>]][[user talk:xeno|<fontspan colorstyle="color:black;">^talk</fontspan>]] 12:46, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

:# <span style="font-variant:small-caps">[[User:John Vandenberg|John Vandenberg]] ^{'''([[User talk:John Vandenberg|chat]])'''}</span> 03:10, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

:# [[User:Cool Hand Luke|Cool Hand]] ''[[User talk:Cool Hand Luke|Luke]]'' 02:31, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

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:# [[User:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#cc6600;">Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs</span>]]^{<small>([[User talk:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#ff6600;">talk</span>]])</small>} 15:44, 28 July 2011 (UTC)

:# &mdash;&nbsp;[[User:Coren|Coren]]&nbsp;^{[[User Talk:Coren|(talk)]]} 23:34, 28 July 2011 (UTC)

:# –[[user:xeno|<fontspan facestyle="font-family:verdana"; color=":black;">'''xeno'''</fontspan>]][[user talk:xeno|<fontspan colorstyle="color:black;">^talk</fontspan>]] 12:46, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

:# <span style="font-variant:small-caps">[[User:John Vandenberg|John Vandenberg]] ^{'''([[User talk:John Vandenberg|chat]])'''}</span> 03:10, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

:# [[User:Cool Hand Luke|Cool Hand]] ''[[User talk:Cool Hand Luke|Luke]]'' 02:31, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

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:# [[User:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#cc6600;">Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs</span>]]^{<small>([[User talk:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#ff6600;">talk</span>]])</small>} 16:04, 28 July 2011 (UTC)

:# &mdash;&nbsp;[[User:Coren|Coren]]&nbsp;^{[[User Talk:Coren|(talk)]]} 23:34, 28 July 2011 (UTC)

:# –[[user:xeno|<fontspan facestyle="font-family:verdana"; color=":black;">'''xeno'''</fontspan>]][[user talk:xeno|<fontspan colorstyle="color:black;">^talk</fontspan>]] 12:46, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

:# <span style="font-variant:small-caps">[[User:John Vandenberg|John Vandenberg]] ^{'''([[User talk:John Vandenberg|chat]])'''}</span> 03:10, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

:# [[User:Cool Hand Luke|Cool Hand]] ''[[User talk:Cool Hand Luke|Luke]]'' 02:31, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

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:Abstain:

:# Agree, but relevance to this case has not been demonstrated in findings. –[[user:xeno|<fontspan facestyle="font-family:verdana"; color=":black;">'''xeno'''</fontspan>]][[user talk:xeno|<fontspan colorstyle="color:black;">^talk</fontspan>]] 12:46, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

:# per Xeno <span style="font-variant:small-caps">[[User:John Vandenberg|John Vandenberg]] ^{'''([[User talk:John Vandenberg|chat]])'''}</span> 03:10, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

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:# [[User:Cool Hand Luke|Cool Hand]] ''[[User talk:Cool Hand Luke|Luke]]'' 02:31, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

:# Again reaffirming the principle is good. This is a new articulation of involved I believe, but there is no logical inconsistency with the underlying policy. [[User:Elen of the Roads|Elen of the Roads]] ([[User talk:Elen of the Roads|talk]]) 10:08, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

:# –[[user:xeno|<fontspan facestyle="font-family:verdana"; color=":black;">'''xeno'''</fontspan>]][[user talk:xeno|<fontspan colorstyle="color:black;">^talk</fontspan>]] 18:43, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

:Oppose:

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:# [[User:Mailer diablo|Mailer Diablo]] 19:24, 28 July 2011 (UTC)

:# &mdash;&nbsp;[[User:Coren|Coren]]&nbsp;^{[[User Talk:Coren|(talk)]]} 23:54, 28 July 2011 (UTC)

:# –[[user:xeno|<fontspan facestyle="font-family:verdana"; color=":black;">'''xeno'''</fontspan>]][[user talk:xeno|<fontspan colorstyle="color:black;">^talk</fontspan>]] 12:46, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

:# <span style="font-variant:small-caps">[[User:John Vandenberg|John Vandenberg]] ^{'''([[User talk:John Vandenberg|chat]])'''}</span> 03:10, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

:# Sadly. --[[User:Elen of the Roads|Elen of the Roads]] ([[User talk:Elen of the Roads|talk]]) 10:20, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

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:# [[User:Mailer diablo|Mailer Diablo]] 19:24, 28 July 2011 (UTC)

:# I think that it's important that the blocks not be taken as evidence of misconduct ''in themselves'', but they certainly are evidence that Mick was aware that many of his colleagues had serious concerns about his behavior. &mdash;&nbsp;[[User:Coren|Coren]]&nbsp;^{[[User Talk:Coren|(talk)]]} 23:54, 28 July 2011 (UTC)

:# –[[user:xeno|<fontspan facestyle="font-family:verdana"; color=":black;">'''xeno'''</fontspan>]][[user talk:xeno|<fontspan colorstyle="color:black;">^talk</fontspan>]] 12:46, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

:# <span style="font-variant:small-caps">[[User:John Vandenberg|John Vandenberg]] ^{'''([[User talk:John Vandenberg|chat]])'''}</span> 03:10, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

:# At the least, it shows that he did have the problem 'pointed out' to him often enough. --[[User:Elen of the Roads|Elen of the Roads]] ([[User talk:Elen of the Roads|talk]]) 10:20, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

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:# As per PhilKnight. - [[User:Mailer diablo|Mailer Diablo]] 19:24, 28 July 2011 (UTC)

:# I think that was poor judgment, but not raising to the level of a finding. &mdash;&nbsp;[[User:Coren|Coren]]&nbsp;^{[[User Talk:Coren|(talk)]]} 23:54, 28 July 2011 (UTC)

:# Would oppose, but I've self-blocked before so... –[[user:xeno|<fontspan facestyle="font-family:verdana"; color=":black;">'''xeno'''</fontspan>]][[user talk:xeno|<fontspan colorstyle="color:black;">^talk</fontspan>]] 12:46, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

====Rd232====

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:# Too general. Would support a copy-edit or alternative suchlike ''"Rd232 has used his administrative tools to block another party to this case in contravention of the guidance given to involved administrators."'' –[[user:xeno|<fontspan facestyle="font-family:verdana"; color=":black;">'''xeno'''</fontspan>]][[user talk:xeno|<fontspan colorstyle="color:black;">^talk</fontspan>]] 13:02, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

:Abstain:

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:# [[User:Chase me ladies, I'm the Cavalry|The Cavalry]] ([[User talk:Chase me ladies, I'm the Cavalry|Message me]]) 13:00, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

:# I've no objection to sanctions for misbehavior directed at the committee simply ''because'' it was directed at the committee; but I'd consider it only in especially egregious cases &mdash; not an isolated incident of frustration. &mdash;&nbsp;[[User:Coren|Coren]]&nbsp;^{[[User Talk:Coren|(talk)]]} 23:54, 28 July 2011 (UTC)

:# –[[user:xeno|<fontspan facestyle="font-family:verdana"; color=":black;">'''xeno'''</fontspan>]][[user talk:xeno|<fontspan colorstyle="color:black;">^talk</fontspan>]] 12:46, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

===Δ===

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:# [[User:Mailer diablo|Mailer Diablo]] 19:24, 28 July 2011 (UTC)

:# &mdash;&nbsp;[[User:Coren|Coren]]&nbsp;^{[[User Talk:Coren|(talk)]]} 23:54, 28 July 2011 (UTC)

:# The edit warring wasn't necessary. –[[user:xeno|<fontspan facestyle="font-family:verdana"; color=":black;">'''xeno'''</fontspan>]][[user talk:xeno|<fontspan colorstyle="color:black;">^talk</fontspan>]] 12:46, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

:# Per JC [[User:Elen of the Roads|Elen of the Roads]] ([[User talk:Elen of the Roads|talk]]) 10:20, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

:# [[User:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#cc6600;">Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs</span>]]^{<small>([[User talk:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#ff6600;">talk</span>]])</small>} 00:40, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

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:# Such arrangements can get caught in limbo, would prefer a definite duration. –[[user:xeno|<fontspan facestyle="font-family:verdana"; color=":black;">'''xeno'''</fontspan>]][[user talk:xeno|<fontspan colorstyle="color:black;">^talk</fontspan>]] 12:46, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

:# Like Xeno, I'm not a fan of making indefinite lengths after a certain period; better to force reevaluation. [[User:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#cc6600;">Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs</span>]]^{<small>([[User talk:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#ff6600;">talk</span>]])</small>} 00:43, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

:Abstain:

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:# First choice [[User:Casliber|Casliber]] ([[User talk:Casliber|talk]] '''·''' [[Special:Contributions/Casliber|contribs]]) 01:54, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

:# First choice, per Cas. [[User:Chase me ladies, I'm the Cavalry|The Cavalry]] ([[User talk:Chase me ladies, I'm the Cavalry|Message me]]) 13:08, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

:# –[[user:xeno|<fontspan facestyle="font-family:verdana"; color=":black;">'''xeno'''</fontspan>]][[user talk:xeno|<fontspan colorstyle="color:black;">^talk</fontspan>]] 12:46, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

:# Second choice. <span style="font-variant:small-caps">[[User:John Vandenberg|John Vandenberg]] ^{'''([[User talk:John Vandenberg|chat]])'''}</span> 03:10, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

:# [[User:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#cc6600;">Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs</span>]]^{<small>([[User talk:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#ff6600;">talk</span>]])</small>} 00:43, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

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:# &mdash;&nbsp;[[User:Coren|Coren]]&nbsp;^{[[User Talk:Coren|(talk)]]} 00:00, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

:# Over the top --[[User:Elen of the Roads|Elen of the Roads]] ([[User talk:Elen of the Roads|talk]]) 10:26, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

:# Now that it's being tied to the involved block, I oppose because a simple reminder is enough. –[[user:xeno|<fontspan facestyle="font-family:verdana"; color=":black;">'''xeno'''</fontspan>]][[user talk:xeno|<fontspan colorstyle="color:black;">^talk</fontspan>]] 13:04, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

:# [[User:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#cc6600;">Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs</span>]]^{<small>([[User talk:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#ff6600;">talk</span>]])</small>} 00:43, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

:Abstain:

:: <s>as above. –[[user:xeno|<fontspan facestyle="font-family:verdana"; color=":black;">'''xeno'''</fontspan>]][[user talk:xeno|<fontspan colorstyle="color:black;">^talk</fontspan>]] 12:46, 29 July 2011 (UTC)</s>

===Hammersoft admonished and warned===

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:# [[User:Chase me ladies, I'm the Cavalry|The Cavalry]] ([[User talk:Chase me ladies, I'm the Cavalry|Message me]]) 13:08, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

:# –[[user:xeno|<fontspan facestyle="font-family:verdana"; color=":black;">'''xeno'''</fontspan>]][[user talk:xeno|<fontspan colorstyle="color:black;">^talk</fontspan>]] 12:46, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

===Δ admonished and warned===

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:# [[User:Mailer diablo|Mailer Diablo]] 19:25, 28 July 2011 (UTC)

:# &mdash;&nbsp;[[User:Coren|Coren]]&nbsp;^{[[User Talk:Coren|(talk)]]} 00:00, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

:# –[[user:xeno|<fontspan facestyle="font-family:verdana"; color=":black;">'''xeno'''</fontspan>]][[user talk:xeno|<fontspan colorstyle="color:black;">^talk</fontspan>]] 12:46, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

:# --[[User:Elen of the Roads|Elen of the Roads]] ([[User talk:Elen of the Roads|talk]]) 10:26, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

:# [[User:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#cc6600;">Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs</span>]]^{<small>([[User talk:David Fuchs|<span style="color:#ff6600;">talk</span>]])</small>} 00:43, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

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:# Per Roger Davies, but see my comment on proposed finding 5, which should be taken very seriously. [[User:Newyorkbrad|Newyorkbrad]] ([[User talk:Newyorkbrad|talk]]) 01:31, 28 July 2011 (UTC)

:# I think he needs to be given the opportunity to contribute in areas where he's less likely to run into conflicts, first. &mdash;&nbsp;[[User:Coren|Coren]]&nbsp;^{[[User Talk:Coren|(talk)]]} 00:00, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

:# Motion seems to have considerably reduced the volume already. –[[user:xeno|<fontspan facestyle="font-family:verdana"; color=":black;">'''xeno'''</fontspan>]][[user talk:xeno|<fontspan colorstyle="color:black;">^talk</fontspan>]] 12:46, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

:# Per above. [[User:Kirill Lokshin|Kirill]]&nbsp;^{[[User talk:Kirill Lokshin|[talk]]]&nbsp;[[User:Kirill Lokshin/Professionalism|[prof]]]} 07:11, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

:# Not sufficiently supported by findings. [[User:Elen of the Roads|Elen of the Roads]] ([[User talk:Elen of the Roads|talk]]) 10:26, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

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:: Failing enforcement provisions: n/a

Calculated by [[User:AlexandrDmitri|Alexandr Dmitri]] ([[User talk:AlexandrDmitri|talk]]) 20:35, 29 July 2011 (UTC)<br/>Updated (with F. 3.1) by [[User talk:AGK|<fontspan colorstyle="color:black;">'''AGK'''</fontspan>]]<small> <nowiki>[</nowikI>[[User:AGK|&bull;]]<nowiki>]</nowiki></small> 16:24, 31 July 2011 (UTC)<br> Updated (with principle 5) by [[User:AlexandrDmitri|Alexandr Dmitri]] ([[User talk:AlexandrDmitri|talk]]) 04:00, 1 August 2011 (UTC)<br/>Updated (with finding 3.1) by '''[[User:NuclearWarfare|<fontb colorstyle="color:navy;">[[User:NuclearWarfare|NW]]</fontb>''']] ''(<font color="green">[[User talk:NuclearWarfare|<span style="color:green;">Talk]]</fontspan>]])'' 00:58, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

:SirFozzie is officially inactive. I've updated [[template:aca]] after he confirmed via email that he is inactive on this case. <span style="font-variant:small-caps">[[User:John Vandenberg|John Vandenberg]] ^{'''([[User talk:John Vandenberg|chat]])'''}</span> 00:35, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

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::# I think we can wrap this up now. [[User:PhilKnight|PhilKnight]] ([[User talk:PhilKnight|talk]]) 21:48, 28 July 2011 (UTC)

::# [[User:Kirill Lokshin|Kirill]]&nbsp;^{[[User talk:Kirill Lokshin|[talk]]]&nbsp;[[User:Kirill Lokshin/Professionalism|[prof]]]} 02:08, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

::# –[[user:xeno|<fontspan facestyle="font-family:verdana"; color=":black;">'''xeno'''</fontspan>]][[user talk:xeno|<fontspan colorstyle="color:black;">^talk</fontspan>]] 12:46, 29 July 2011 (UTC) Re-affirm. –[[user:xeno|<fontspan facestyle="font-family:verdana"; color=":black;">'''xeno'''</fontspan>]][[user talk:xeno|<fontspan colorstyle="color:black;">^talk</fontspan>]] 13:08, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

::# [[User:Chase me ladies, I'm the Cavalry|The Cavalry]] ([[User talk:Chase me ladies, I'm the Cavalry|Message me]]) 21:42, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

::# Sorry my vote was so tardy --[[User:Elen of the Roads|Elen of the Roads]] ([[User talk:Elen of the Roads|talk]]) 10:27, 2 August 2011 (UTC)