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=='''Proposals, February 2009'''==
==={{tl|Germany-castle-stub}} + {{Cl|German castle stubs}}===
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as there are 70 of them in {{Cl|castle stubs}}. Speedy? [[User:HeartofaDog|HeartofaDog]] ([[User talk:HeartofaDog|talk]]) 14:10, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
Support. [[User:Dr. Blofeld| <span style="border:1px solid blue;padding:1px;"> <span style="color:#fef;background:black;">'''''Dr. Blofeld'''''</span></span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Dr. Blofeld| <span style="font-size:x-small; color:black;">White cat</span> ]]</sup> 14:12, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
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===Split of {{Cl|European boxing biography stubs}}===
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The following are viable by from relevant upmerged templates
*{{Cl|French boxing biography stubs}} - {{Tl|France-boxing-bio-stub}}
*{{Cl|Polish boxing biography stubs}} - {{Tl|Poland-boxing-bio-stub}}
Speedy anyone. [[User:Waacstats|Waacstats]] ([[User talk:Waacstats|talk]]) 01:26, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
Speedy [[User:Dr. Blofeld| <span style="border:1px solid blue;padding:1px;"> <span style="color:#fef;background:black;">'''''Dr. Blofeld'''''</span></span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Dr. Blofeld| <span style="font-size:x-small; color:black;">White cat</span> ]]</sup> 10:58, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
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===Split of {{cl|Vietnam geography stubs}}===
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Soon will be around 800 stubs. I would recommend splitting by region of Vietnam in categories. The regions are as follows [[Tay Bac|Northwest]]{{·}} [[Dong Bac|Northeast]]{{·}} [[Red River Delta]]{{·}} [[Bac Trung Bo|North Central Coast]]{{·}} [[Nam Trung Bo|South Central Coast]]{{·}} [[Tay Nguyen|Central Highlands]]{{·}} [[Dong Nam Bo|Southeast]]{{·}} [[Mekong Delta|Mekong River Delta]]
However I reckon it may be worth creating upmerged templates for
====Proposed categories====
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{{col-begin}}
{{col-3}}
*{{tl|
*{{tl|
*{{tl|BacGiang-geo-stub}}
*{{tl|BacKan-geo-stub}}
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*{{tl|ThaiNguyen-geo-stub}}
*{{tl|ThanhHoa-geo-stub}}
*{{tl|
*{{tl|TienGiang-geo-stub}}
*{{tl|TraVinh-geo-stub}}
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*{{tl|VinhLong-geo-stub}}
*{{tl|VinhPhuc-geo-stub}}
*{{tl|
{{col-end}}
*{{tl|AnGiang-geo-stub}}, {{tl|ThuaThienHue-geo-stub}} two minor corrections. Also I thought we used diacretics in template names, with redirects from names with out the diacertics, surely some of these need the diacretics. Besides all that I support the Idea. [[User:Waacstats|Waacstats]] ([[User talk:Waacstats|talk]]) 09:03, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
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===Split of {{Cl|French politician stubs}}===
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Oversized category, currently sorting to newly created templates and the following are over 60, more may follow.
*{{tl|France-politician-Socialist-stub}} - {{cl|French Socialist party politican stubs}}
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[[User:Waacstats|Waacstats]] ([[User talk:Waacstats|talk]]) 13:32, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
Support, surprised no others are viable too. [[User:Dr. Blofeld| <span style="border:1px solid blue;padding:1px;"> <
:There probably will be others, I've still got over 800 to check. [[User:Waacstats|Waacstats]] ([[User talk:Waacstats|talk]]) 09:17, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
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==={{cl|Asian film stubs}}===
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*'''Support''' Per the recent re-org of the "by country" stub cats for films, and a handy new category to house the recently created Sri-Lanka film stub! '''[[User:Lugnuts|<span style="color:#002bb8;">Lugnuts</span>]]''' ([[User talk:Lugnuts|talk]]) 19:40, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
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==={{tl|Soup-stub}} and {{cl|Soup stubs}}===
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Advise we organise Food and drink stubs a little better. Many of the soups are not even stub categorized.[[User:Dr. Blofeld| <span style="border:1px solid blue;padding:1px;"> <span style="color:#fef;background:black;">'''''Dr. Blofeld'''''</span></span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Dr. Blofeld| <span style="font-size:x-small; color:black;">White cat</span> ]]</sup> 18:51, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
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===by country templates===
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Plan to template the following by nationality, categories for any over 60
*{{Cl|European boxing biography stubs}}
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[[User:Waacstats|Waacstats]] ([[User talk:Waacstats|talk]]) 15:06, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
'''Strong support''' -Especially schools. [[User:Dr. Blofeld| <span style="border:1px solid blue;padding:1px;"> <
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==={{Cl|European Olympic medalist stubs}}===
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:How do we deal with people who won medals competing for the Unified team? Do we classift them as USSR-, their later nationality or with a UnifiedTeam- template? [[User:Waacstats|Waacstats]] ([[User talk:Waacstats|talk]]) 15:01, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
Politics is the root of all problems huh? I'm not sure, perhaps administer both templates or use the perosns place of birth (either current day Serbia or Montenegro) to judge. you could always create templates to make it easier. [[User:Dr. Blofeld| <span style="border:1px solid blue;padding:1px;"> <
==={{cl|Sri Lankan film stubs}}===
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my first nomination here. There are about 30 article can fit into this type.--[[User:Chanakal|Chanaka L]] ([[User talk:Chanakal|talk]]) 17:58, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
Categories require 60 articles minimum. I would support {{tl|SriLanka-film-stub}} though. [[User:Dr. Blofeld| <span style="border:1px solid blue;padding:1px;"> <
:Right then, give us {{tl|SriLanka-film-stub}}. Cheers!--[[User:Chanakal|Chanaka L]] ([[User talk:Chanakal|talk]]) 18:05, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
Sure, I'm certain the others will have no objection. Perhaps you could stub 30 films and make the category viable? [[User:Dr. Blofeld| <span style="border:1px solid blue;padding:1px;"> <
If you want to go ahead and create the category if you intend to ensure there are at least 60 asap then I have no objections either. But that would probably require more input from the others so I should wait for that. [[User:Dr. Blofeld| <span style="border:1px solid blue;padding:1px;"> <
:{{thank you}} Dr.Blofeld, about category; I usually don't write film articles. I wanted it for maintenance purposes. But in a year or so we'll have that much. Let's see then. Best of Luck!--[[User:Chanakal|Chanaka L]] ([[User talk:Chanakal|talk]]) 04:07, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
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===Split of {{cl|Algae stubs}}===
Bot generated now has 3000 stubs. Any suggestions? [[User:Dr. Blofeld| <span style="border:1px solid blue;padding:1px;"> <
Could split by main {{cl|Algae taxonomic classes}} but could probably still use further divisional split. [[User:Dr. Blofeld| <span style="border:1px solid blue;padding:1px;"> <
:We now have over 5000. The two existing sub-categories appear to be classes, so lets start with that level and see how we do. Only problem is not all the classes have articles yet. [[User:Waacstats|Waacstats]] ([[User talk:Waacstats|talk]]) 15:14, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
A matter of time perhaps... Really we ought to contact the bot runner and get him to come to an agreement with stub sorting. [[User:Dr. Blofeld| <span style="border:1px solid blue;padding:1px;"> <
===By-country templates for Euro-archaeology?===
{{cl|European archaeology stubs}} is of moderate size, and a by-country template split looks desirable (a UK-archaeology-stub would easily pass threshold, as well). Problem is, of course, that we're dealing with ancient history in countries notorious for the changes in borders over that time. Personally, I'd favour the usual "current borders" principle, but if there are better ideas, voice 'em. I'd like to at least propose a {{tl|UK-archaeology-stub}} / {{cl|United Kingdom archaeology stubs}}, and suggest debating on the rest. [[User:Grutness|Grutness]]...''[[User_talk:Grutness|<small
:Permanent parent cat is split by curent nation so I see no problem in by country templates, categories for any that reach 60.[[User:Waacstats|Waacstats]] ([[User talk:Waacstats|talk]]) 11:00, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
'''Support''' Me neither Waacs.[[User:Dr. Blofeld| <span style="border:1px solid blue;padding:1px;"> <
===Category:Stub-Class black metal articles===
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This Category has over 200 stub articles.
The template {{tlx|BMB-stub}} looks like it'd be useful.
*Please discuss this at [[Wikipedia:Stub_types_for_deletion#.7B.7BBMB-stub.7D.7D.2C_.7B.7BBM-stub.7D.7D_.28redirect.29|Stub types for deletion]], where this was first listed. [[User:Pegship|Pegship]] ([[User talk:Pegship|talk]]) 18:59, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
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I proposed this a while back [[User:Dr. Blofeld| <span style="border:1px solid blue;padding:1px;"> <
:You may have proposed a {{cl|Black metal stubs}}, but I doubt that you proposed a {{cl|Stub-Class...}} anything here! [[User:Grutness|Grutness]]...''[[User_talk:Grutness|<small
Ooops, I meant to post that under "library"!! just below here. [[User:Dr. Blofeld| <span style="border:1px solid blue;padding:1px;"> <
==={{cl|Library stubs}}===
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:::A quick CatScan shows well over 65 articles which would qualify for {{tl|library-struct-stub}}, so I '''support'''. Cheers, [[User:Pegship|Pegship]] ([[User talk:Pegship|talk]]) 22:00, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
::::{{tl|library-bio-stub}} probably is a good idea at this point too.--[[User:Thomas.macmillan|TM]] 04:36, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
:Agreed [[User:Dr. Blofeld| <span style="border:1px solid blue;padding:1px;"> <
I proposed this a while back [[User:Dr. Blofeld| <span style="border:1px solid blue;padding:1px;"> <
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==={{tl|Castle-stub}}===
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**No...I'm missing them as well. What's up with that? [[User:Pegship|Pegship]] ([[User talk:Pegship|talk]]) 01:00, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
***fixed.. wanted to make sure it wasn't just me before i started taking shots in the dark. [[User:Outsider80|Outsider80]] ([[User talk:Outsider80|talk]]) 01:09, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
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===Upmerge templates===
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#{{tl|Taiwan-gov-stub}}
The stub list, if you want, is [[User:ImpactForce/Stubs#N_Not_done|here]] (''scroll down for the other list'').
Thanks --- [[User:ImpactForce|<
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===Category request for LGBT bio stubs (qualifies under speedy criteria S1)===
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::*Other -- Artists: only 7, Film-related bio: only 2, Music artsts: only 3, TV-related: only 1
::thoughts? [[User:Outsider80|Outsider80]] ([[User talk:Outsider80|talk]]) 20:38, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
*I'd definitely support the original proposal. There were 53 such stubs two days ago and the number is increasing daily. If not for my recent health problems I'd have probably proposed this myself by now. Though I can see the reasoning behind Thomas's counterproposal, I think that a basic LGBT bio category makes sense as an initial move to empty out the LGBT stub category. It would also be a reasonable parent type for the existing activist category. The idea of creating a separate template for writers has its merits, though that's perhaps less urgent. [[User:Grutness|Grutness]]...''[[User_talk:Grutness|<small
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==={{Cl|Italian church stubs}}===
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Speedy creation for this cat? presently upmerged into {{Cl|European church stubs}} but now has 60+ articles. [[User:HeartofaDog|HeartofaDog]] ([[User talk:HeartofaDog|talk]]) 23:40, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
:Speedy create per precedent. [[User:Waacstats|Waacstats]] ([[User talk:Waacstats|talk]]) 08:56, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
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===Split of {{Cl|European Olympic medalist stubs}}===
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Propose finishing off the split of this cat with the remaining upmerged templates. It may require the reation of templates for historic nations such as {{Tl|Bohemia-Olympic-medalist-stub}}, do we want to do this (I think we already have USSR-, Czechoslovakia- and Yugoslavia-) and if so do we upmerge them to the relevent current countries stub cat? We already have 23 categories and 2 upmerged templates. [[User:Waacstats|Waacstats]] ([[User talk:Waacstats|talk]]) 12:10, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
How many articles do you think would fit the criteria Bohemian olympic medalist? I support in principle as we tend to be politically correct in such areas. ANy idea how many bios fit the bill? [[User:Dr. Blofeld| <span style="border:1px solid blue;padding:1px;"> <
:Currently 3 articles with another 3 possible articles which I'll try to get round to creating at the weekend. [[User:Waacstats|Waacstats]] ([[User talk:Waacstats|talk]]) 08:44, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
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===split of {{Cl|European actor stubs}}===
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As with recent splits, create the missing templates here. [[User:Waacstats|Waacstats]] ([[User talk:Waacstats|talk]]) 19:59, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
Absolutely [[User:Dr. Blofeld| <span style="border:1px solid blue;padding:1px;"> <
:On a related note, can upmerged templates for [[:Category:European film director stubs]] be created for each country, instead of having the Euro-film-director-stub template? '''[[User:Lugnuts|<
I'd support that also. The European thing has gone on long enough.[[User:Dr. Blofeld| <span style="border:1px solid blue;padding:1px;"> <
:Cheers Dr B. I thought I was going mad when I was adding Germany-film-director-stub, only to find it didn't exist! '''[[User:Lugnuts|<
::I'm slowly working my way through the continent categories so I would support this as well. [[User:Waacstats|Waacstats]] ([[User talk:Waacstats|talk]]) 23:03, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
:Yeah that is crazy! I think its time we changed the graphic for them too I hated the old one. [[User:Dr. Blofeld| <span style="border:1px solid blue;padding:1px;"> <
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==={{Cl|French church stubs}}===
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Speedy creation for this cat? presently upmerged into {{Cl|European church stubs}} but now has 70+ articles. [[User:HeartofaDog|HeartofaDog]] ([[User talk:HeartofaDog|talk]]) 02:51, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
Um well its look as if it has been created... Support anyway.[[User:Dr. Blofeld| <span style="border:1px solid blue;padding:1px;"> <
:Sorry - I should have waited.<br>
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::Sorted-someone forgot the noincludes. [[User:Waacstats|Waacstats]] ([[User talk:Waacstats|talk]]) 23:10, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
:::Great - thanks.[[User:HeartofaDog|HeartofaDog]] ([[User talk:HeartofaDog|talk]]) 02:21, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
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==={{Cl|Roman Catholic cathedral stubs}}===
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Speedy creation for this cat? presently upmerged into {{Cl|Roman Catholic church stubs}} but now has 110+ articles.[[User:HeartofaDog|HeartofaDog]] ([[User talk:HeartofaDog|talk]]) 02:01, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
:mmmmm. I think I'd prefer a split by country rather than by the status of the building, though we do have the template, so it makes some sense. [[User:Grutness|Grutness]]...''[[User_talk:Grutness|<small
::I see what you mean. I am not sure that many countries have 60+ RC Cathedrals - presumably there wd be no problem breaking out the ones that do at the appropriate time and leaving the remainder permanently in RC-cathedral?
::Or do you want to rethink the whole RC-church thing, and just have churches and cathedrals by country? There is certainly about to be a difficulty - in RC countries - with the overlap / duplication between Foo-church-stub and RC-foo-church-stub - (eg) RC churches in France / Churches in France. [[User:HeartofaDog|HeartofaDog]] ([[User talk:HeartofaDog|talk]]) 11:10, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
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===LGBT magazines and newspapers, and two speedied categories===
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Hi all - subsequent to the recent LGBT split proposal, I'd like to propose two more upmerged templates - {{tl|LGBT-mag-stub}} and {{tl|LGBT-newspaper-stub}}. Looks like they'll each take about 30 articles. I've also inadvertently speedied both {{cl|LGBT organization stubs}} and {{cl|LGBT law stubs}}, but both should get close to three figures, so hopefully no damage done. [[User:Grutness|Grutness]]...''[[User_talk:Grutness|<small
* In the spirit of "sometimes it's better to ask forgiveness than permission", '''support'''. [[User:Pegship|Pegship]] ([[User talk:Pegship|talk]]) 04:14, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
* '''Support''' both proposed upmerged templates -- there are quite a number of mags & newspaper articles currently stubbed as LGBT-stub. (also support the accidental speedied cats which are helpful in stub-navigating) [[User:Outsider80|Outsider80]] ([[User talk:Outsider80|talk]]) 00:34, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
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==={{Cl|Forestry stubs}}===
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Surprised this hasn't been ID'd by now, 70+ articles identified, can see preliminary list on [[User:Minnecologies|userpage]][[User:Minnecologies|minnecologies]] ([[User talk:Minnecologies|talk]]) 03:05, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
*{{tl|forestry-stub}} certainly looks like it'd be useful - as long as there's a note that it's not to be used for geo-type articles about actual forests. '''Support'''. [[User:Grutness|Grutness]]...''[[User_talk:Grutness|<small
:Definately. COuld include both forest organizations and articles on forestry issues as well as any notable figures in this field. [[User:Dr. Blofeld| <span style="border:1px solid blue;padding:1px;"> <
::Yup - though the orgs and bios should be double-stubbed with any other appropriate stub types, of course. [[User:Grutness|Grutness]]...''[[User_talk:Grutness|<small
:::Yes, we need a "forestry" stub - I specifically need one. chop chop ;)[[User:Nailgunner|Nailgunner]] ([[User talk:Nailgunner|talk]]) 22:14, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
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===Templates===
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Propose creating templates for all countries for {{tl|Africa-sports-venue-stub}}, as has been done with biographies. This will make sorting stubs into building and structures stub categories much easier and eliminate significant needless double stubbing.--[[User:Thomas.macmillan|TM]] 20:57, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
*'''Support''' will match Asia and Europe. [[User:Waacstats|Waacstats]] ([[User talk:Waacstats|talk]]) 22:59, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
*'''Support''' - would also be worth having redirects to them all from {{tl|Foo-stadium-stub}}, which is also widely used as a template styling. [[User:Grutness|Grutness]]...''[[User_talk:Grutness|<small
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==={{Cl|European athletics biography stubs}}===
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propose upmerged by country templates. [[User:Waacstats|Waacstats]] ([[User talk:Waacstats|talk]]) 22:45, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
Not done already? Surprised. Support.[[User:Dr. Blofeld| <span style="border:1px solid blue;padding:1px;"> <
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==={{Cl|Diving stubs}} and {{Cl|Diving biography stubs}}===
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:**{{cl|Diving (acrobatics) stubs}} (291 stubs, fed by both the base and bio stubs)
:**{{cl|Diving biography stubs}} (310 stubs, fed by both bio types, as per current use)
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::Support Grutness' suggestion. [[User:Waacstats|Waacstats]] ([[User talk:Waacstats|talk]]) 10:04, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
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=== {{tl|France-church-stub}}, {{tl|Austria-church-stub}} ===
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As upmerged templates in [[:Category:European church stubs]], on a par with the several already existing there for other countries. [[User:HeartofaDog|HeartofaDog]] ([[User talk:HeartofaDog|talk]]) 00:51, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
*Sounds like a good move - '''support''', and for any other countries that might find church-stub templates useful. [[User:Grutness|Grutness]]...''[[User_talk:Grutness|<small
::May I take this as a speedy OK?[[User:HeartofaDog|HeartofaDog]]
:::I'll say speedy create. for these and any other templates for foo-church-stubs for the euro cat. [[User:Waacstats|Waacstats]] ([[User talk:Waacstats|talk]]) 10:01, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
([[User talk:HeartofaDog|talk]]) 00:05, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
Yes, actually I did propose the creation of them and many other European ones a while back. [[User:Dr. Blofeld| <span style="border:1px solid blue;padding:1px;"> <
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=== {{cl|South American film stubs}} ===
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To mirror previous categories of [[:Category:European film stubs]] and [[:Category:African film stubs]]. I'm sure there's plenty of stub articles for films from [[:Category:Bolivian films|Bolivia]], [[:Category:Chilean films|Chile]], [[:Category:Colombian films|Colombia]], [[:Category:Venezuelan films|Venezuela]] and the other S American countries (ex. Argentina and Brazil) to make 60+ stubs. '''[[User:Lugnuts|<
:'''Support''' Not appropriate for Brazil or Argentina obviously as Lugs mentioned but the films from the other countries make it worthwhile and would tie stray stubs together. [[User:Dr. Blofeld| <span style="border:1px solid blue;padding:1px;"> <
::Support, would be an idea to have my country templates rather than one for SouthAm. [[User:Waacstats|Waacstats]] ([[User talk:Waacstats|talk]]) 09:55, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
:::Ah yes, I forgot to say that originally - I'd do the upmerge template for each country, as per the European stubs. '''[[User:Lugnuts|<
::::I knew you'd know that but I thought I would make it plain just incase someone else comes round and creates it as southAm- before you create the country-film. [[User:Waacstats|Waacstats]] ([[User talk:Waacstats|talk]]) 17:06, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
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=== {{cl|Malagasy politician stubs}} ===
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I've had a wild weekend. --[[User:AlbertHerring]] <sup>[[User_talk:AlbertHerring|Io son l'orecchio e tu la bocca: parla!]]</sup> 19:48, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
'''Support''' Barnstar worthy! Do you have a stub count Albert? [[User:Dr. Blofeld| <span style="border:1px solid blue;padding:1px;"> <
:I...er, ''never'' keep count after a wild weekend... --[[User:AlbertHerring]] <sup>[[User_talk:AlbertHerring|Io son l'orecchio e tu la bocca: parla!]]</sup> 21:30, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
'''Support''' speedying. I counted 153 just now.--[[User:Thomas.macmillan|TM]] 21:17, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
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===New regional geo templates for Mali===
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*{{tl|Tombouctou-geo-stub}}
*{{tl|Bamako-geo-stub}} -for articles on places and suburns of the city district.
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:support templates with the following changes GaoML - there is apparently a Geo district in Burkina Faso, KayesML - there is a Kayes in Congo and SégouML - there is a village in Togo. I don't think we need region in the template but certainly when categories are created (And I Support these once they reach 60) i think it should be of the form F{{Cl|Foo Region geography stubs}}. [[User:Waacstats|Waacstats]] ([[User talk:Waacstats|talk]]) 09:22, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
Ah yes of course, thanks for the note. Actually I think we can get away with them blank though. You see Kayes is only a small town in Congo, it will never get to the stage where we would need stub templates. Kayes in Mali is a region, cercle, commune and town. Also "Geo" district is also a different spelling and is a smaller disrtrict that is also unlikely to have a template created for it. Segou is only a village in TOgo whereas it is a region, cercle, commune and city. The region is probably the size of England at least. If you look on a world map you'll see these names have priority. There shouldn't be any problems without the ML, if in the unlikely event that conflicting tmeplates needed to be made in the future then we can always add an abbreviation after the new ones. [[User:Dr. Blofeld| <span style="border:1px solid blue;padding:1px;"> <
:thanks for that, I am happy that Segou and Kayes probably don't need disambig (we don't have templates for american towns of the same size) and the "Geo" was a misspelling on my part according to [[Gao (disambiguation)]] but seen as we don't even have an article yet I'm sure a template is many years off unless someone does a good going over of Burkina Faso. [[User:Waacstats|Waacstats]] ([[User talk:Waacstats|talk]]) 14:03, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
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===Haringey borough related articles===
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::*{{tl|Haringey-geo-stub}}, upmerged for now into {{cl|London geography stubs}} and
::*{{tl|Haringey-stub}}, upmerged for now into {{cl|London stubs}}.
::If either of them get 60 stubs, then separate categories could be created, or if they have 60 between them they could both feed a new {{cl|Haringey stubs}}, with the geo one also still feeding the London geo category. [[User:Grutness|Grutness]]...''[[User_talk:Grutness|<small
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===footy-bios split===
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[[User:Waacstats|Waacstats]] ([[User talk:Waacstats|talk]]) 18:59, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
'''Speedy''' [[User:Dr. Blofeld| <span style="border:1px solid blue;padding:1px;"> <
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===Central American sportspeople===
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Propose {{Cl|Central American sportspeople stubs}}, {{Tl|foo-sport-bio-stub}} for all 7 nations nations and {{Tl|Foo-footy-bio-stub}} for Guatemala and Belize (the only two that don't currently have them). [[User:Waacstats|Waacstats]] ([[User talk:Waacstats|talk]]) 18:21, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
*(Grutness tries to nod sagely, but ends up looking like one of those nodding-head dog puppets) [[User:Grutness|Grutness]]...''[[User_talk:Grutness|<small
:*More like a nodding cat surely. [[User:Waacstats|Waacstats]] ([[User talk:Waacstats|talk]]) 15:08, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
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=== {{cl|Taiwanese sport stubs}} ===
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I propose creating a stub category with the stub article list [[User:ImpactForce/Stubs#Cat:Taiwanese sport stubs - .7B.7BTaiwan-sport-stub.7D.7D|here]]. The new category can include [[:Template:Taiwan-baseball-stub]], [[:Template:Taiwan-footyclub-stub]], [[:Template:Taiwan-sports-venue-stub]], and [[:Category:Taiwanese sportspeople stubs]]. [[User:ImpactForce|<
*Support based on numerous precedants. [[User:Waacstats|Waacstats]] ([[User talk:Waacstats|talk]]) 09:01, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
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===split of {{Cl|German Olympic medalist stubs}}===
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*{{Cl|German field hockey Olympic medalist stubs}} - {{tl|Germany-fieldhockey-Olympic-medalist-stub}}
. [[User:Waacstats|Waacstats]] ([[User talk:Waacstats|talk]]) 23:48, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
:I'm not sure what is standard naming practice with these, but {{tl|Foo-Olympic-bar-medalist-stub}} (e.g., Germany-Olympic-swimming-medallist-stub}} would flow better, IMO (and yes, for continental Europe we'd normally use UK spelling, so they should all be "medallist". This, however, probably needs to wait for the outcome of a massive renaming of permcats which i think may be called for, so going with one -l- for now but keeping an eye out for future changes is possibly the best option). [[User:Grutness|Grutness]]...''[[User_talk:Grutness|<small
::If we go with the Foo-Olympic-bar then the US subcats (the only other country we have split this way) need to be renamed. I agree that we probably do need a rename to medallist at some point. I don't think we need both axis of split do you have a preference for either. [[User:Waacstats|Waacstats]] ([[User talk:Waacstats|talk]]) 08:56, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
:::Not really - but I suspect that a further split will be needed sooner if we go for the EG/WG one. [[User:Grutness|Grutness]]...''[[User_talk:Grutness|<small
:Hmm yes the naming does seem a bit of a mouthful. I support though based on numbers [[User:Dr. Blofeld| <span style="border:1px solid blue;padding:1px;"> <
::Hi. Sorry about the delay in responding fellas. I'm not sure what we should do about naming in all honesty. I would completely support the category and template naming conventions above. I would also support East and West templates.[[User:Dr. Blofeld| <span style="border:1px solid blue;padding:1px;"> <
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===Russian/Soviet films===
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*{{Cl|Russian film stubs}} - {{Tl|Russia-film-stub}}
*{{Cl|Soviet film stubs}} - {{Tl|USSR-film-stub}}
The former is for films from 1917-1991 (240+ articles currently in [[:Category:Soviet films|this category]]) and the latter for post-1991 films (100+ articles in [[:Category:Russian films|this category]]). '''[[User:Lugnuts|<
:Support as long as these are the other way round (Russia post 1991 and soviet 1917-1991). [[User:Waacstats|Waacstats]] ([[User talk:Waacstats|talk]]) 21:15, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
::Hehe, well spotted! '''[[User:Lugnuts|<
'''Support''' -good catch Lugnuts![[User:Dr. Blofeld| <span style="border:1px solid blue;padding:1px;"> <
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===[[:Category:Handball biography stubs]]===
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*Works for me. [[User:Pegship|Pegship]] ([[User talk:Pegship|talk]]) 06:19, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
*fully support, if you need any help let me know, don't think we need to go as far as we have with football though. [[User:Waacstats|Waacstats]] ([[User talk:Waacstats|talk]]) 23:13, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
*'''Support''' from me, too. BTW, if you have queries about less straightforward country names in stub templates, checking [[User:Grutness/Geo-stub list]] should hopefully clear them up. [[User:Grutness|Grutness]]...''[[User_talk:Grutness|<small
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===Split from {{Cl|Track and field athletics biography stubs}}===
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:'''Speedy'''--[[User:Thomas.macmillan|TM]] 15:12, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
::'''Yes but''' some uniformity might be nice... either Mexico/Portugal or Mexican/Portuguese... [[User:Grutness|Grutness]]...''[[User_talk:Grutness|<small
:::someone found the deliberate error:), obviously bsed on all the other categories it should be {{Cl|Portuguese athletics biography stubs}}, thanks for spoting that grutness. [[User:Waacstats|Waacstats]] ([[User talk:Waacstats|talk]]) 15:11, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
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===Split from {{Cl|Canoer stubs}}===
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{{tl|Romania-canoe-bio-stub}} has reached 60 propose {{Cl|Romanian canoeist stubs}} to fit in with post SFD name. [[User:Waacstats|Waacstats]] ([[User talk:Waacstats|talk]]) 11:14, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
:Support. [[User:Grutness|Grutness]]...''[[User_talk:Grutness|<small
:'''Go for it'''[[User:Dr. Blofeld| <span style="border:1px solid blue;padding:1px;"> <
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