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== {{did}} Palenque glyphs.jpg ==
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=={{did}} [[:Image:San Martin Pajapan Monument 1.jpg]] ==
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== {{Did}} Nauru map ==
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Image:Nauru map.jpg|Original request
Image:Nauru-Hauptkarte.png|Available German map
Image:Nauru-Hauptkarte-fr.svg|Vector version with French text
Image:Nauru map english.svg|Attempt at an English version
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'''Article(s):''' [[Nauru]] (featured article)
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::::I have decreased the file size to almost a forth of what it was, but for some reason now there is a black rectangle apearing near the words "Anibare Bay" on the right side. Any idea what's up? --[[User:Indolences|Indolences]] 09:45, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
:Thanks for improving the image. That black bar has been there ever since I uploaded the map, but was not there when I was editing the map in Inkscape. We're waiting for an experienced .svg editor to come along and see if it can be fixed. [[User:Bobo is soft|Bobo is soft]] 22:38, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
::The first thing I noticed was leftover <code>svg:foreignObject</code> inside <code>svg:switch</code> in the "hydronimes" group. There are also two <code>svg:flowRoot</code> nodes there that are off the page and seem to do nothing. Removing the two <code>svg:flowRoot</code> objects gets rid of the black boxes, while removing the "hydronimes" group removes about 130k. Give me a few more minutes and I'll update the svg.
:::Fixed. If it still appears with a block box, reload the image.
== {{did}}Virus replication ==
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Image:Virusreplication.png|Original
Image:Virus Replication.svg|SVG version
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'''Article(s):''' [[Influenza]], [[Orthomyxoviridae]]
'''Request:''' From [[:Category:Images which should be in SVG format]].↔[[User:Nmajdan|<
'''Graphist opinion:''' I think I'll take a stab at this one. -[[User:YK Times|YK Times]] 18:32, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
: Finished. Any improvements needed? -[[User:YK Times|YK Times]] 02:56, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
:: Looks good to me. Thank you.↔[[User:Nmajdan|<
==West Leeming Primary School Logo ==
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'''Article(s):''' [[West Leeming Primary School]]
'''Request:''' I would like the logo to be converted into a svg. My reasoning for this is that the image is of low quality, there are NO higher quality images available and, the image would be quite simple to convert using inkscape. -[[User:Symode09|symode09]] 10:10, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
'''Update'''
I have changed the tag appropriately. Your concerns have been seen to. The image is now appropriate to be vectorized[[User:Symode09|symode09]] 22:04, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
'''Update 1'''
The tag hasn't been changed JUST for my needs. I have been wanting this template for a while. There is an almost identical US government equivelant and I know that, as in the US government's case, this image is government owned and in the public ___domain.[[User:Symode09|symode09]] 22:04, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
:As we must err on the side of caution before stating an image is in the public ___domain, can you please provide some evidence as to this? Such as a "Terms of use" page on a website that states the images are in the public ___domain. I know that I am not familiar with the government of Australia, but I just want to make sure that this school, and logo, fall under the scope of the govt.↔[[User:Nmajdan|<span style="font-size:11px; font-weight:bold; font-family:verdana, sans-serif;">NMajdan</span>]]•[[User talk:Nmajdan|<span style="font-size:9px; font-family:verdana, sans-serif; color:#000000;">talk</span>]] 22:08, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
'''Update 2'''
You can visit http://www.ipaustralia.gov.au/ for all australian legal information. Australian law in this case is similar to US law. You can use this image in the public ___domain but can not use it if you are for example writing a letter and attempting to impersonate the organisation by using their logo.
[[User:Symode09|symode09]] 00:57, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
'''Update 3'''
The school is a public school (a government school) proof is availavle at http://www.lookatwa.com.au/Community/primaryu-z.html or look it up wikipedia - [west leeming primary school]
[[User:Symode09|symode09]] 01:16, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
'''Update 4'''
The school is older then 50 years old anyway. I have checked everything, and feel free to cann the school - the only good way to check. It is, all the problems you have found are incorrect or, have been addressed!
[[User:Symode09|symode09]] 23:19, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
'''Graphist opinion:''' As this is a fair use logo, [[WP:FUC|FUC]] #3 states that low resolution images should be used. Therefore, I, personally, do not think this should be converted. I am against SVG conversions of fair use logos.↔[[User:Nmajdan|<span style="font-size:11px; font-weight:bold; font-family:verdana, sans-serif;">NMajdan</span>]]•[[User talk:Nmajdan|<span style="font-size:9px; font-family:verdana, sans-serif; color:#000000;">talk</span>]] 04:47, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
: I have to agree with that - [[Wikipedia:Logos]] says, "Overly high-resolution versions of logos should be avoided, however, as they are less likely to be fair use. Do not use SVG formats, as this can infringe on fair use." Sorry, but I don't think that it would be possible to convert it to SVG without infringing the copyright. [[User:Time3000|Time3000]] 11:47, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
::Unfortunately, you can't just change the tag to suit your needs. I don't think this falls under the guidelines of public ___domain.↔[[User:Nmajdan|<span style="font-size:11px; font-weight:bold; font-family:verdana, sans-serif;">NMajdan</span>]]•[[User talk:Nmajdan|<span style="font-size:9px; font-family:verdana, sans-serif; color:#000000;">talk</span>]] 14:41, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
:::This image is fair use. See [[:commons:COM:L#Australia]]. [[User:Bryan Tong Minh|Bryan]] 19:28, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
== WLPS Logo ==
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'''Article(s):''' [[West Leeming Primary School]]
'''Request:''' I would like the logo to be converted into a svg. My reasoning for this is that the image is of low quality, there are NO higher quality images available and, the image would be quite simple to convert using inkscape. talk to [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Symode09 symode09's] or [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Editor_review/symode09 Reveiw Me!] 15:03, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
'''Update'''
no, I agree, the image is not a work of the us gov. Maybe because it is an public Australian school? (I know it is amazing there is a world outside the United States) If you look above, there are links to pages which say the logo needs to be over around 50 years if I can remember - make sure you read everything above. Oh, I was just joking :]
talk to [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Symode09 symode09's] or [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Editor_review/symode09 Reveiw Me!] 22:12, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
'''Graphist opinion:''' Is ok? [[User:Chabacano|Chabacano]] 17:24, 10 March 2007 (UTC) '''Update''' I see above license concerns. I hope the PD tag of the original image to be appropiate...
:I do not understand why this was converted. It was determined in the listing above to be a fair use image by an administrator on the Commons. It is ''definitely'' not applicable under the license given as the image is ''not'' a work of the U.S. Government.↔[[User:Nmajdan|<span style="font-size:11px; font-weight:bold; font-family:verdana, sans-serif;">NMajdan</span>]]•[[User talk:Nmajdan|<span style="font-size:9px; font-family:verdana, sans-serif; color:#000000;">talk</span>]] 20:45, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
::My fault. I did not see the previous discussion before doing the conversion. I saw a PD tag and that is all. After that I read that discussion, and hence the "update". [[User:Chabacano|Chabacano]] 00:05, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
:::Should the template of the original logo be changed? Now is {{tl|PD-AustGov-Education}}. [[User:Chabacano|Chabacano]] 11:39, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
::::Well, according to the Commons admin above, the image is just a {{tl|logo}} and should be used under the fair use guidelines.↔[[User:Nmajdan|<span style="font-size:11px; font-weight:bold; font-family:verdana, sans-serif;">NMajdan</span>]]•[[User talk:Nmajdan|<span style="font-size:9px; font-family:verdana, sans-serif; color:#000000;">talk</span>]] 14:59, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
== {{did}} Image:Catabolism schematic.svg ==
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'''Article(s):''' [[Metabolism]]
'''Request:''' Could somebody convert this to a SVG image, please?
'''Graphist opinion:''' Is the conversion ok? Maybe is a bit dull... [[User:Chabacano|Chabacano]] 18:27, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
::The words and arrows at the bottom seem to have shifted out of alignment and there is now too much white space due to the lengthening of the "AcetylCoA" to "Citric acid cycle" arrow. Is this the optimal file type for a simple conversion, would a TIFF file be easier? [[User:TimVickers|TimVickers]] 18:41, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
:::I can not achieve a good automatic conversion (it is not problem of the file format, but of the type of image). In consequence I am drawing again the diagram. I updated the image and now is closer to the original. [[User:Chabacano|Chabacano]] 19:07, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
::Converted by another user, thanks for your help. [[User:TimVickers|TimVickers]] 19:49, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
== {{did}} Image:Señor de las limas 2.jpg ==
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'''Articles:''' [[Olmec]], [[Las Limas Monument 1]], and French and Spanish wikipedia articles on the Olmec
'''Request:''' I have nominated this for Featured Picture ''([[Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates/Las Limas Monument 1|see discussion here]])''. Some of the assembled commentators have suggested "an edit to remove the non-black patches [from the background], and to make the black blacker". I do not have the tools to do this and I am again hoping that you all can work your magic. Any other work to improve the image quality would also be much appreciated. Thanks, [[User:Madman2001|Madman]] 15:32, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
'''Graphist opinion:''' I have tried it. Comments? [[User:Chabacano|Chabacano]] 17:48, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
:Thanks a lot, Chabacano! Good job!! I very much appreciate the speedy turnaround. [[User:Madman2001|Madman]] 19:05, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
== {{did}} FCW maps ==
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Image:FinnishCivilWarMapMiddle.jpg
Image:FinnishCivilWarMapEnd.jpg
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'''Article(s):''' FA-[[Finnish Civil War]]
'''Request:''' These maps are confusing and bad quality jpgs, shame for FA (it will be on main page tomorrow, so this request is too late anyway I guess). The map is supposed to represent White's areas (green), Red's areas (red), railway network, offensives (those handdrawn arrows) and battles (two swords). We have some map bases already, [[:Commons:Image:Finland 1918 plain.png]]. --[[User:Pudeo|Pudeo]] ([[User talk:Pudeo|''Talk'']]) 11:42, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
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'''Graphist opinion:'''I tried it. Usually I do silly errors in my drawings :( so don't be surprised if these maps contain mistakes (I hope they don't of course)[[User:Chabacano|Chabacano]] 15:35, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
: The SVGs are in the article now, so I think we can regard this as done. [[User:Time3000|Time3000]] 15:20, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
== Urnaelettorale.svg ==
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'''Request:''' This image, created as a cleanup of [[:Image:Urnaelettorale.png]] using Corel Draw has ended up with a transparent backgound larger than the image itself. It is the size of the A4 page background used in Corel Draw. How is this best avoided? How does one directly edit an SVG file to remove the effect? [[User:LittlePete|LittlePete]] 12:30, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
'''Graphist opinion:'''
Import it back into CorelDRAW, upgroup the SVG object, then delete the white background. Afterwards, select all the items you would like to export to SVG, and use the File>Export command (checking all the options carefully) to export to SVG.
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== Languages of Guatemala ==
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Image:Idiomasmap.jpg
Image:Idiomasmap Guatemala.svg
Image:Mayan_Language_Map.png
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'''Article(s):''' [[Mayan languages]], [[Guatemala]]
'''Request:''' The image is not currently in FAC [[Mayan languages]] because there is uncertainty as to its copyright status. making a new .svg version with a better color key would solve that. [[User:Circeus|Circeus]] 21:46, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
'''Graphist opinion:'''
I gave it a try. I could not read some of the labels, but now should be easy to add/correct them. [[User:Chabacano|Chabacano]] 19:44, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
:I was thinking that it would be clearer with a labelled color chart on the sides instead of having the labels inside the map.[[User:Circeus|Circeus]] 20:46, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
:And there's a spot missing near the edge of the lake on the right, which corresponds to the rightmost label ("Garuna" or something like that).[[User:Circeus|Circeus]] 20:54, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
::almost all of the language names are completely incorrect in the image to the left.[[User:Maunus|·Maunus·]] [[User talk:Maunus|·Æ·]] 21:07, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
:::It would be useful to know the correct names to do this map... [[User:Chabacano|Chabacano]] 08:31, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
::::They all appear in the articles on [[mayan languages]] and [[languages of Mesoamerica]] and [[Guatemala]][[User:Maunus|·Maunus·]] [[User talk:Maunus|·Æ·]] 09:24, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
:::::Please look at the rightmost image (added), above, to correct most of the names - too many errors to list here, though "Nqxn" for Mopan really takes the cake. That other image is actually superior for [[Mayan Languages]] for several reasons (extends beyond Guatemala, doesn't include the two non-mayan languages, gives an idea of speaker populations and of language branches). I agree that the center image here would be useful for Guatemala, better geographic precision, but it might be nice to base the language colors here on variations of the colors in the rightmost Mayan Languages image. Missing entirely for the center image here are the labels Q'eqchi (the large upper green patch), Garifuna (a non-mayan Yoruba/Arawak language, a very small coastal strip extending west and then north from where the river hits the Atlantic coast near the (north)east concave corner. Does NOT extend west again along the Belize border to the main concave corner. The original, leftmost map puts it incorrectly ''east'' of the rivermouth.) and Q'anjob'al (the blue just west of Q'eqchi.). --[[User:Homunq|Homunq]] 12:41, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
::::::Oh, thanks. This new image is much easier to decipher than the previous bunch of pixels. I fixed some things (or at least I hope that). For doing that re-coloration based on the image in the rightmost I need to know where Poqomchi is (now has not assigned zone), and which color should have "Papti" (or "Popti", "Papli" or whatever name it has). [[User:Chabacano|Chabacano]] 14:28, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
::it's Poptà or alternatively [[Jakaltek language|Jakaltek]][[User:Maunus|·Maunus·]] [[User talk:Maunus|·Æ·]] 15:00, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
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== Image:Metabolic pathways.png ==
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'''Article(s):''' [[Metabolism]]
'''Request:''' Could somebody convert this to SVG format please? Also, if there is any way to reduce the file size, that would be great as well. The high-resolution version is [http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/5f/Metabolic_pathways.png here]. Thanks. [[User:TimVickers|TimVickers]] 20:45, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
'''Graphist opinion:'''
I've reduced the dimensions of the file to have their original values (which I don't think loses much) and converted it to an indexed colour PNG which gets the filesize down to 254KB from 1.17MB. I've also created a smaller but completely lossless version of the original (1.17MB to 975KB) by using PNG filters, and I've overwritten the original with the smaller version. I hope that helps with the filesize issue. [[User:Time3000|Time3000]] 18:35, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
:Great, thank you very much. [[User:TimVickers|TimVickers]] 22:24, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
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== Skeletal muscle ==
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'''Article(s):''' [[Muscle]]
'''Request:''' Vectorization and general tidying! it needs it..... - '''[[User:Zephyris|Zephyris]]''''' <sub>[[User talk:Zephyris|Talk]]</sub>'' 16:12, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
'''Graphist opinion:'''
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== CoA of [[Grand Duchy of Finland]] ==
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Image:Grand Duchy of Finland CoA.png | Better than 2nd, except has errors
Image:Suuriruhtinaskunnanvaakuna.png | Should not have eagle and has errors
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'''Article(s):''' [[Grand Duchy of Finland]]
'''Request:''' Hard one I belive, but if someone is interested in herardly... The current CoA in the article is wrong as it has the Russian eagle and looks bad, as drawn with Paint.. The first image I attached is what it should be, too bad the image is very bad quality. Also, it has errors, see the 3rd image the big CoA of the Russian Empire, it's on the bottom right. It should be the correct one.
We already had a CoA based on the 1973 CoA of Finland: [[:Image:GD Finland coa.png]] but it obviously looks wrong when compared to the one in the Russian Empire's large CoA [[:Image:Russian Empire's Big Coat of Arms.jpg]] [[User:Pudeo|Pudeo]] ([[User talk:Pudeo|''Talk'']]) 13:28, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
'''Edit:''' [http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2gvvjhd Here] is quite high reso image of the CoA, only drawn with one color though. But it shows the shapes very well..
'''Graphist opinion:'''
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