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I've been around since about July 2003, one way or the other, and became an admin around the end of that year. Anyone with an interest in the more obscure corners of 20th century literature may have seen some of my edits.

I have no position on the performance of the existing ArbCom, and nothing I say should be taken as implicit criticism. I run on a simple platform. I would aim to follow the following basic principles:

*'''Equality of respect''': the same standards of behaviour should be extended to and expected of all users. Being an admin gives me no rights that are not also extended to non-admins, I deserve no more leeway than someone who has been here for 3 months. Of course, I exclude the real newcomers, who should never be bitten.

*'''[[Wikipedia:WikiLove|Wikilove]]''': enough said.

*'''[[Wikipedia:Assume good faith|Assume good faith]]''': ditto.

*'''Talking is better than blocking''', discussing is better than voting. In the last resort, blocking/banning is better than letting one person drain the time, energy and goodwill of the many.

*'''We're here to build an [[encyclopaedia]], not a playground'''.

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Above, I say ''Being an admin gives me no rights that are not also extended to non-admins'': so, what is an admin, what is abuse of admin status, and how should it be handled?

As I see it, an admin is a user who has been given access to a set of bits of wiki functionality that other users cannot use. The chief components of this toolkit are the ability to protect, delete and deleteundelete pages and to block users. The deal is that these tools are handed over with the implicit, but clear, understanding that they be used for the benefit of the community and the project, not the individual.

The toolkit also carries with it a heightened responsibility to adhere to such basic tenets as Wikilove, assuming good faith, the carrying out of policy, both written and unwritten, the need for consensus for any actions that may be debatable under policy or require policy. In short, the admin needs to model the behaviours that the community and project require from all users if they are to prosper.

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So, a fair question; how would I see admin abuse being dealt with? This is not the place to work out a complete policy proposal, so the following notes are just an outline of principles and possible procedures.

By extension of the '''Talking is better than blocking''' principle, I would argue that de-admining is better than blocking, too. De-admining means that the user retains the most fundamental "right" on Wikipedia: the ability to edit articles. The community and project also benefit from the retention of the skills and knowledge of an experienced editor. I envisage a number of set-length periods that could be applied; say 1 month, 3 months, 6 months, 1 year, indefinite. For the fixed termination periods, re-admining at the end would be accompanied by a period of mentoring equal in length to the sanction period. Any abuse identified by the mentors during this period would result in an automatic imposition of the next level up sanction.

The process might look something like this:

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==Questions and comments==

'''Please note that it is my intention to respond to all questions with an assumption that every question is asked in good faith.''' [[User:Filiocht|Filiocht]] | [[User talk:Filiocht|The kettle's on]] 09:49, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

Dear Filiocht, is your role in ArbCom going to interfere with the time you spred in improving and writing literature articles? Will you become only a bureaucrat or will you remain an editor? Cheers and all the best, [[User:Muriel Gottrop|muriel@pt]] 12:05, 8 October 2005 (UTC)

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Arbcom is overworked and no fun. Please review these discussions: [http://mail.wikipedia.org/pipermail/wikien-l/2005-October/thread.html#29915][http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/RFC] [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee_Elections_December_2005/Proposed_modifications_to_rules] Come up with a short list of suggestions for ways you would endorse for improving the arbitration process. Bonus points for actually managing to create new policy. [[User:Dragons flight|Dragons flight]] 07:57, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

:I'm reading and will get back. My longish post above, written before I read your question, may address it in some small part. [[User:Filiocht|Filiocht]] | [[User talk:Filiocht|The kettle's on]] 08:33, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

Interesting reading! I'm one of those who believe that AfD as it currently operates is less bad than any of the alternatives on offer, so I don't have a lot to say there. Ditto (as per my comments [[Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee Elections December 2005/Proposed modifications to rules|on this page]], although I would favour an increase in the size of the ArbCom.

I am concerned to see how content disputes could be better handled, and see a role for the ArbCom as a court of final resort. It is important to recognise that there is no such thing as a person without a point of view. This has to be the starting point for any discussion of content disputing and NPOV policy. To simplify, editors can be categorised into three meta-groupings:

#Those who edit in good faith but with no awareness of their biases (possibly the majority, generally speaking just need to have their biases pointed out to them).

#Editors who are aware of their biases and make a conscious effort to achieve balance in articles (the "best" editors).

#POV warriors who repeatedly attempt to impose their biases on articles (the problem group)

Bearing in mind that any content dispute is likely to involve a mix of some or all these types, how can we, as a community, best address the challenge involved? Basically, I like the idea of a bottom up approach, with editors first attempting to find consensus in Talk, focusing particularly on such guidelines as [[Wikipedia:Cite sources]]. This is most likely to work in the absence of a type 3 editor.

If this fails, I'd suggest the creation of [[Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Content mediation]], where those involved in a dispute could ask for the assistance of one or more uninvolved admin to help build consensus. I am here suggesting admins because page protection and blocking may become necessary, but there is nothing to stop uninvolved non-admins from helping out. (As an aside, I personally prefer page protection to reflex-action 3RR blocks and would like to see [[Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Content mediation]] replace [[Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/3RR]].

If mediation fails, any or all of those involved, including the mediator(s), can raise a request for comment which may, in turn, result in an ArbCom hearing. My idea is that ArbCom would not rule on actual issues of content but rather on the behaviours of those involved. They may impose sanctions up to and including bans, but most likely order that more disruptive editors refrain form editing the article(s) in dispute. They would also rule that content inserted by such disruptive editors be verified by the other parties, with the assistance/guidance of the mediators and, where appropriate, be included in the agreed version. Editors who oppose the inclusion of any such '''valid''' content may be subject to the sanctions previously handed down to disruptive editors.

I'm sorry that this is so long-winded and that I haven't come up with any exciting new policy to win extra points, just a bunch of tentative suggestions. Then again, I need to remain true to my belief that policy can only be made, changed or broken by consensus, I suppose.

[[User:Filiocht|Filiocht]] | [[User talk:Filiocht|The kettle's on]] 10:30, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

==How long is a piece of string?==

More specifically, if you are elected, and it becomes aparent that you need to spend 30 hours per month (or you won't be doing your share, and the arbcom will slow down as a result), would you have any problems with this level of commitment?

And question #2, under what conditions do you think you would step down before your term is up? – [[User:Quadell|Quadell]] ^{([[User_talk:Quadell|talk]])} 16:07, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

First question: No, I wouldn't have a problem. Second question: if I felt I wasn't doing a good job or if I felt that the ArbCom was working against the idea of an encyclopaedia and I could not change that form the inside. Sorry for the delay, on a short (busman's) holiday. [[User:Filiocht|Filiocht]] | [[User talk:Filiocht|The kettle's on]] 07:15, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

==Questions from [[User:-Ril-]]==

:''The following questions are for each candidate, and do not specifically target you''

''Do you hold any strong political or religious opinions (e.g. concerning George Bush, Islam, or on which end you should break a boiled egg)? If so, would you recuse yourself from cases centred on these?''

I am a non-practicing atheist and my politics are of the non-party kind; greenish, sceptical, wary of dogma. I think George Bush is a fool, but I would not expect our article on him to say so. In fact, if that opinion was added, I'd revert. Islam is just another religion; none of them really mean anything to me. Islamic culture has produced many fine thinkers and poets, as has Christian culture, Jewish culture, etc. None of which is really to the point of your question. I would recuse myself on cases where the value of modernist poetry was called into question. [[User:Filiocht|Filiocht]] | [[User talk:Filiocht|The kettle's on]] 08:26, 5 December 2005 (UTC)

''How willing are you to contest the decisions of other arbitrators rather than just "go with the flow"?''

I would expect any decision to based on consensus. That means acceptable to all those involved in making it, not just the majority. [[User:Filiocht|Filiocht]] | [[User talk:Filiocht|The kettle's on]] 08:26, 5 December 2005 (UTC)

''Do you view all requests to re-address cases, particularly requests made by those most penalised, as being automatically without merit?''

No. [[User:Filiocht|Filiocht]] | [[User talk:Filiocht|The kettle's on]] 08:26, 5 December 2005 (UTC)

''In the case against Yuber, it was decided by the arbitration committee that it is the duty of arbitrators to investigate, and rule on the behaviour of not only one party involved, but all of them. Do you support this decision? [if current arbitrator] Does your visible behaviour on recent cases reflect this decision?''

Yes. All actions have contexts and the actions of other parties form part of that context. [[User:Filiocht|Filiocht]] | [[User talk:Filiocht|The kettle's on]] 08:26, 5 December 2005 (UTC)

--Victim of signature fascism 16:45, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

==Question from Marsden==

Many people have noted that Wikipedia's original communitarian structure is no longer functioning very well. One editor has [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee_Elections_December_2005/Candidate_statements/Jpgordon suggested] that ArbCom is "about getting the trains to run on time," which is a reference to a fulfulled promise of Mussolini's fascist government. Do you agree that Wikipedia needs to become more orderly, and if so, do you think there are any options other than a move toward a more centrally controlled authoritarian system? Do you think that the spirit of cooperation in Wikipedia would survive such a change? [[User:Marsden|Marsden]] 15:54, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

:No simple answer here, I'm afraid. I've been around long enough to fondly remember the days when I was familiar with all the regulars on AfD, the Pump, etc. However, I'm painfully aware that the way things worked then have not really scaled with the project. On the other hand, I suffer from a deep-rooted aversion to "centrally controlled authoritarian system(s)". So my view is that we need to avoid going down the centralisation route as much as possible. We also need to build much clearer guidelines for consensus-building. Consensus is, at one and the same time, one of the most widely used and one of the most widely misunderstood words in Wikipedia debate. I would us like to put together an agreed definition of consensus and then to ensure that all decision-making processes work to that definition. ArbCom's role would probably be mainly to rule on cases of non-consensual behaviour. Who cares if the train is late if you have good neighbours to talk to on the platform? [[User:Filiocht|Filiocht]] | [[User talk:Filiocht|The kettle's on]] 09:34, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

==Question from [[User:Ted Wilkes|Ted Wilkes]]==

Do you support the creation of a [[Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee Code of Conduct]] as I have just now suggested at [[User talk:Jimbo Wales#A sincere question]]? - [[User:Ted Wilkes|Ted Wilkes]] 18:33, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

:Yes, I do. [[User:Filiocht|Filiocht]] | [[User talk:Filiocht|The kettle's on]] 08:58, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

==Questions to many candidates by [[User:PurplePlatypus|PurplePlatypus]]==

#How do you view the role (and relative importance) of [[WP:Civility]] in the process of building a factually accurate encyclopedia? How do you view editors who are normally correct in article namespace, but who may be perceived as rude – including to longtime, popular editors and admins – on Talk pages and the like?

::I think that [[WP:Civility]] is a basic plank of Wikipedia, uo there with [[WP:NPOV]], [[WP:AFG]], [[Wikipedia:WikiLove|Wikilove]], [[Wikipedia:Please do not bite the newcomers]], [[WP:NOT]], etc. Regardless of the standing of an editor, it is vital that all debate here be conducted with respect for each other and in a rational fashion, and I have generally tried to model this behaviour in my interactions with others. [[User:Filiocht|Filiocht]] | [[User talk:Filiocht|The kettle's on]] 09:29, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

#Do you have an academic background of any kind, and if so, in what field? How do you handle critiques from your peers and professors (assuming those aren’t one and the same), which may be sharply worded or otherwise skirt the edges of [[WP:Civility]] even if they are correct? Considering those professors who have recently had you as a student, what would ''they'' tell me if I asked them the same question about you?

:: To quote an answer to a question further up the page "I'm 51 and I work in scientific publishing, as well as being a widely published poet. I also occasionally teach and give talks on literary subjects." I'm not an academic, and it's been a long time since I was a student. Nowadays, most of my interaction with the academic community is at seminars I get invited to as a practicing poet to discuss my own writing or that of other poets I know a bit about. I can see where you're going with this question, but I do not see that it is relevant to my own situation. [[User:Filiocht|Filiocht]] | [[User talk:Filiocht|The kettle's on]] 09:29, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

#What are your views on the proposed policy [[Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee Code of Conduct]]? Whether you think it should be a formal policy or not, do you believe you would generally act in accordance with it? What aspects of it do you think should not be there, or to put it another way, are there any proposals there which you can think of good reasons to ignore on a regular basis? (Please date any replies to this question as the proposal may well change over time.)

:: I have commented there and have no problem with the current proposals. I'd kind of welcome it as policy. [[User:Filiocht|Filiocht]] | [[User talk:Filiocht|The kettle's on]] 09:29, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

If you require any elaboration on my answers, please ask. [[User:Filiocht|Filiocht]] | [[User talk:Filiocht|The kettle's on]] 09:29, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

[[User:PurplePlatypus|PurplePlatypus]] 08:17, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

== Support Wikipedia:User Bill of Rights? ==

Do you support [[Wikipedia:User Bill of Rights]]? ([[User:SEWilco|SEWilco]] 05:34, 21 December 2005 (UTC))

:No. As I see it, there are no "rights" here, only responsibilities. We are supposed to be building an encyclopaedia, not playing lawyer-games. [[User:Filiocht|Filiocht]] | [[User talk:Filiocht|The kettle's on]] 08:26, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

I believe that with increased power should come increased responsibilities, and it is my view that the current ArbCom has made corrupt decisions, showing favoritism and issuing inequitable penalties. Consequently, I would like to know your view of the proposed [[Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee Code of Conduct]]. --<span style="color: darkred;"><span style="font-family: georgia;">[[User:Herschelkrustofsky|<span style="color: darkred;">HK</span>]]</span></span> 15:56, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

== Questions being asked by [[User:Titoxd|Titoxd]] to all candidates ==

# How much of your Wikipedia time do you plan to spend on ArbCom business?

# If you were elected and had to spend most of your time in ArbCom delibations, which projects would you consider to be the most negatively affected by your absence?

# To what extent would those projects be affected?

[[User:Titoxd|Tito]][[Wikipedia:Esperanza|<span style="color:#008000;">xd</span>]]^{([[User_talk:Titoxd|?!?]] - [[User:Titoxd/Flcelloguy's Tool|help us]])} 06:40, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

==Neutrality question and Censuring questions from -Ril-==

''(Being asked of all candidates)''

''Do you believe that regardless of Jimbo Wales' own views on the matter, the community should be able to strip arbitrators of their position under certain circumstances, and if so, what circumstances?''

''As a corollory:Do you believe, regardless of Jimbo Wales' view on the matter, that a large number of signatories (e.g. 150 requesting censure against 50 supporting the arbitrator) to an RFC against an arbitrator is enough that the arbitrator should be judged as having been rejected by the community in light of their actions, and consequently for them to be forcibly stripped of their post?''

''[[WP:NPOV|wikipedia has a policy of NPOV]]. Excepting straw men, have you ever introduced a '''substantial''' opinion or fact that '''contradicts''' your own political or religious viewpoint into an article on a topic of which you have strong opinions, and if you have, how frequently do you do so compared to your other substatial edits to articles?''

--[[User:-Ril-|Victim of signature fascism]] | [[User:-Ril-/Biblecruft|help remove biblecruft]] 02:08, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

==Recusal, Code of Conduct, Expansion==

I am asking these questions of all candidates:

1. Do you pledge to abide by the proposed recusal guidelines at [[Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee Code of Conduct#Recusal]]?

2. Are there any parts of [[Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee Code of Conduct]] that you do not agree with? If so, please describe in detail how you would improve them.

3. Will you please pledge to support expanding the number of seats on the Arbitration Committee? If not, how would you propose alleviating the present arbitration backlog?

4. Have you voted over at [[Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee Elections January 2006/Proposed modifications to rules]]? If not, why not? If so, please summarize your votes.

Thank you for your kind consideration of and answers to these questions. &mdash;[[User:Nrcprm2026|<i>James S.</i>]] 06:29, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

==Concerns over personal attack templates==

[[User:Improv]], who is also a candidate for the arbitration committee, has placed the following statement on [[Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)]]:

: ''I am concerned about [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Templates_for_deletion&curid=895730&diff=34790720&oldid=34790144#Template:User_against_scientology|recent templates] surviving AfD that appear to contrast with [[WP:NPA|established policy]]. In particular, I feel that these templates are [[Poisoning the well]] when it comes for how we treat our fellow wikipedians. There are circumstances where knowing too much about one's neighbours politicises how one deals with them. This is, to an extent, unavoidable in society, but wearing signs of hate as badges on our shoulders takes what is a small problem that we can usually deal with into the realm of being damaging to the community. Already, there have been signs of people refusing to help each other because they are on different ends of a political spectrum -- this seems likely to get worse if this trend continues. Some people cry that this is an attack on their first amendment rights (if they're American, anyhow), but that doesn't apply here because Wikipedia is not the U.S. government -- it is a community that has always self-regulated, and more importantly it is an encyclopedia with a goal of producing encyclopedic content. We have a tradition of respecting a certain amount of autonomy on userpages, but never absolute autonomy. We might imagine, for example, templates with little swastikas saying "this user hates jews". I am not saying that such a thing would be morally equivalent to this template against scientology, but rather that we should aim to minimise that aspect of ourselves, at least on Wikipedia, so we can make a better encyclopedia. The spirit of [[WP:NPOV|NPOV]] does not mean that we cannot have strong views and still be wikipedians, but rather that we should not wear signs of our views like badges, strive not to have our views be immediately obvious in what we edit and how we argue, and fully express ourselves in other places (Myspace? Personal webpage?) where it is more appropriate and less divisive.'' [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3AVillage_pump_%28policy%29&diff=34797833&oldid=34788153]

I am inviting all candidates, including Improv, to expand on this theme on their questions pages. Do you agree that this is a cause for concern as we move into 2006? How do you see the role of the arbitration committee in interpreting the interpretation of Wikipedia policy in the light of this concern? --[[User:Tony Sidaway|Tony Sidaway]]|[[User talk:Tony Sidaway|Talk]] 20:36, 12 January 2006 (UTC)