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Hi,

Not having managed to find this page on my own, I started a discussion at [[Wikipedia:Village_pump_(proposals)#Adding_dates_to_assessment_templates]] - please feel free to participate there or move the discussion here, whichever suits best.[[User:Dramatic|dramatic]] ([[User talk:Dramatic|talk]]) 09:13, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

{{WikiProject New Zealand/sandbox|class=C|category=no<!--|date=May 2010-->}}

:Interesting idea. I've posted an example of what I think you may be asking for. Is this correct? (This is on [[Template:WikiProject New Zealand/sandbox]], but is not yet in a state to be deployed.)

:*I see you have been given other suggestions and pointers on the village pump discussion. Perhaps you could try these and let us know if you still feel a template solution is warranted.

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:*At this stage we would probably look at adding this to the project banner you are working with. It is only if many projects were interested that we would start thinking about adding it to the meta-template.

:&mdash;&nbsp;Martin <small>([[User:MSGJ|MSGJ]]&nbsp;·&nbsp;[[User talk:MSGJ|talk]])</small> 19:50, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

{{WikiProject New Zealand/sandbox|class=C|category=no<!--|assess date=May 2010-->}}

::Thanks for putting some thought into this martin. Yes, it is pretty much what I was thinking of. I think that quality is the significant one here, as article quality changes significantly over time, whereas the importance of an article to a project seldom changes. While it would be great to have it on WPNZ, since I've been visiting unassessed articles, it is all the other projects I'm seeing the no-longer-appropriate ratings on (With WPBIO probably being the most common instance). I'll go and look at the other responses now. [[User:Dramatic|dramatic]] ([[User talk:Dramatic|talk]]) 02:10, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

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== Sixteen task forces? ==

I am drafting in [[User:Strdst grl/ubx/sandbox|my sandbox]] to try and add [[WP:ROALD|the Roald Dahl task force]] to [[WP:NOVELS|WikiProject Novels]]. However, this project already has fifteen task forces. Is there a way to add any more? [[User:Strdst_grl|<span style="font-family:UnivrstyRoman BT,Garamond,serif;color:DodgerBlue">strdst_grl</span>]] <small>[[User talk:Strdst_grl|<span style="font-family:Kaufmann,Monotype Corsiva;color:DeepSkyBlue">(call me Stardust)]]</span>]]</small> 08:47, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

:You will need to add another taskforce hook, which will allow another 10. (Have a look at how [[Template:ChristianityWikiProject]] does it.) &mdash;&nbsp;Martin <small>([[User:MSGJ|MSGJ]]&nbsp;·&nbsp;[[User talk:MSGJ|talk]])</small> 10:22, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

== [[:Template:WikiProject Amiga]] ==

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::the second {{para|class}} overrides the first, so the talk page goes in the "unassessed tulips articles" category.

::Most, if not all, project banners are completely tolerant about the capitalisation of parameter ''values''; so {{para|class|c}} is treated as if it were {{para|class|C}}; but I don't know of any that would allow {{para|Class|C}}. There seems to be a convention that parameter names are almost always entirely lowercase, with the capitalised form only used for proper names: for example, {{tlx|WikiProject Trains}} has {{para|Scotland}}, but not {{para|scotland}}. --[[User:Redrose64|<span style="color:#d30000; background:#ffeeee">Red</span>rose64]] ([[User talk:Redrose64|talk]]) 21:02, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

:::I don't think this is an issue; template parameters are generally assumed to be lower-case. Changing them to recognize upper-case and lower-case (i.e., {{code|1=class=}} versus {{code|1=Class=}}) has no purpose, in my opinion. <fontspan style="font-family: 'Times New Roman'">[[User:Intelligentsium|<span style="color:#013220">Intelligent</span>]]'''[[User_talk:Intelligentsium|<span style="color:Black">sium</span>]]'''</fontspan> 00:15, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

:::The parameter is lower case but the value is not. It's correct to have class=C. I also don't think it's an issue but perhaps some WikiProjects have an issue like the above Scotland= example WikiProject Trains. Regards, [[User:SunCreator|SunCreator]] ^{([[User talk:SunCreator|talk]])} 00:26, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

::::It is only an issue at WP banner templates that use the upper case for parameters, and don't remember to double-code it to take both uc and lc characters. Maybe this could be pointed out in the TF setup instructions, somewhere? --[[User:Funandtrvl|Funandtrvl]] ([[User talk:Funandtrvl|talk]]) 20:19, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

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== Taskforce portal ==

{{tl|WikiProject Washington/sandbox}} - I can not get the Seattle Taskforce to show the [[Portal:Seattle|Seattle portal]] link. Help? --<span style="background:#DD7500; padding:2px">'''[[User:Admrboltz|<fontspan colorstyle="color:black;">Admr</fontspan>]][[User talk:Admrboltz|<fontspan colorstyle="color:black;">Boltz</fontspan>]]'''</span> 21:13, 12 February 2011 (UTC)

:The portal for taskforces only works on the hooked version. I've updated the sandbox to use the hook. -- [[User:WOSlinker|WOSlinker]] ([[User talk:WOSlinker|talk]]) 21:38, 12 February 2011 (UTC)

::Thanks. I figured I was missing something. --<span style="background:#DD7500; padding:2px">'''[[User:Admrboltz|<fontspan colorstyle="color:black;">Admr</fontspan>]][[User talk:Admrboltz|<fontspan colorstyle="color:black;">Boltz</fontspan>]]'''</span> 21:44, 12 February 2011 (UTC)

== To-do list ==

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* This banner template includes a link to Portal:Internet. The name of the accompanying image is held here.

* The following categories are required for the banner to work correctly. Please either create these categories or adjust the banner so that they are not required. [[:Category:Semantic Web articles]]

<span style="border:2px solid red;padding:1px;background:navy">[[User:Senator2029|<fontspan colorstyle="color:yellow;">'''Senator2029'''</fontspan>]]&nbsp;<fontspan colorstyle="color: white">&#124;</fontspan>&nbsp;[[User talk:Senator2029|<fontspan colorstyle="color:lime;">'''talk'''</fontspan>]]</span> 18:43, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

:The first two are informative, not errors; no action is needed.

:The third merely means that one of the categories required by the project banner hasn't been created. This is the category declared by the {{para|TF_1_ASSESSMENT_CAT|Semantic Web articles}} and {{para|TF_1_MAIN_CAT|Semantic Web articles}} parameters to {{tlx|WPBannerMeta}} within [[Template:WikiProject Internet]]. --[[User:Redrose64|<span style="color:#d30000; background:#ffeeee; text-decoration:inherit">Red</span>rose64]] ([[User talk:Redrose64|talk]]) 19:15, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

{{Thank you}}

<span style="border:2px solid red;padding:1px;background:navy">[[User:Senator2029|<fontspan colorstyle="color:yellow;">'''Senator2029'''</fontspan>]]&nbsp;<fontspan colorstyle="color: white">&#124;</fontspan>&nbsp;[[User talk:Senator2029|<fontspan colorstyle="color:lime;">'''talk'''</fontspan>]]</span> 21:51, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

== Template:WikiProject Food and drink/sandbox ==

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== Issue I've encountered ==

<s>Hi, I'm having some trouble with this template at [[Template:WikiProject A Song of Ice and Fire]]. If it's something really simple I overlooked sorry, any help is really appreciated. Thanks, [[User:Magister Scienta|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#4682B4;">Magister Scienta</fontspan>]][[User talk:Magister Scienta|^{<fontspan colorstyle="color:#228B22;">talk</fontspan>}]] 23:56, 20 January 2012 (UTC)</s>

:Sorry, never mind. I found the issue (I accidentally included a period). [[User:Magister Scienta|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#4682B4;">Magister Scienta</fontspan>]][[User talk:Magister Scienta|^{<fontspan colorstyle="color:#228B22;">talk</fontspan>}]] 00:23, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

== Implementing a task force ==

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It would be useful to have a link to the template page on every banner template, in the same way as {{tl|infobox}} (with its "View", "Talk", and "Edit" links, although I think only a "View" is necessary). This is useful in order to see what parameters it accepts, such as task force assignments, without having to edit the page, see its name, and looking it up.

Thank you! [[User:InverseHypercube|<fontspan colorstyle="color: blue" size="2px">Inverse</fontspan><fontspan colorstyle="color: #6495ED" size="2px">Hypercube</fontspan>]] <small>([[User talk:InverseHypercube|talk]])</small> 03:42, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

:The feature is already there but hidden by default. See [[Template talk:WPBannerMeta/Archive 2#Editlinks]]. -- [[User:WOSlinker|WOSlinker]] ([[User talk:WOSlinker|talk]]) 07:38, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

::Great, thank you! Maybe this should be mentioned in the documentation? [[User:InverseHypercube|<fontspan colorstyle="color: blue" size="2px">Inverse</fontspan><fontspan colorstyle="color: #6495ED" size="2px">Hypercube</fontspan>]] <small>([[User talk:InverseHypercube|talk]])</small> 20:34, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

== WikiProject Carrom template ==

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:It's in [[Template:WPBannerMeta/importancescale]] -- [[User:WOSlinker|WOSlinker]] ([[User talk:WOSlinker|talk]]) 20:20, 31 December 2012 (UTC)

::OK, the talk page for that comes back here, so here goes. As I understand the importance rating, it grades the importance of the <u>subject matter</u> of the article, not the article itself. Thus I suggest the wording be changed from "This article has been rated as ???-importance on the project's importance scale" to "This <u>subject matter of this</u> article has been rated as ???-importance on the project's importance scale." <span style="font-family:Georgia">[[User:RiverStyx23|RiverStyx23]]</span>{^{[[User talk:RiverStyx23|talk]]}_{[[Special:EmailUser/RiverStyx23|email]]}} 20:46, 31 December 2012 (UTC)

Burp... or bump... or something...? <span style="font-family:Georgia">[[User:RiverStyx23|River<fontspan colorstyle="color:black;">Styx</fontspan>23]]</span>{_{[[Special:EmailUser/RiverStyx23|submarine]]}^{[[User talk:RiverStyx23|target]]}} 23:47, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

== These banners might be breaking WP's community ==

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:Fairly sure this doesn't require anything more than changing

::<ttcode>|MAIN_CAT = WikiProject Categories articles</ttcode>

:to

::<ttcode>|MAIN_CAT = WikiProject Categories pages</ttcode>

:On {{tlx|WikiProject Categories}}. [[User:Happy-melon|<b style="color:forestgreen">Happy</b>]]‑[[User talk:Happy-melon|<b style="color:darkorange">melon</b>]] 18:06, 10 February 2013 (UTC)

::Thanks! Done that. --[[User:BrownHairedGirl|<span style="color:#663200;">Brown</span>HairedGirl]] <small>[[User talk:BrownHairedGirl|(talk)]] • ([[Special:Contributions/BrownHairedGirl|contribs]])</small> 18:13, 10 February 2013 (UTC)

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== |category=no conflict with FQS ==

I was just doing some cleanup and came across [[Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Law/Archive_13#Changing_the_WP_Law_template_to_include_a_link_to_Portal:Law_of_England_and_Wales | an example]] of someone trying to use the <ttcode>|category=no</ttcode> switch with a WPBM-based banner. AFAICT, the problem is that {{tl|WikiProject Law}} uses a custom class list with {{tl|class mask}} <ttcode>|FQS=yes</ttcode>. What seems to be happening is that <ttcode>|category=no</ttcode> seems to be applied by {{tl|class mask}} to stop the category class being used, rather than applying to WPBM to stop the article being included in a category. Am I right in that interpretation? It's obviously not ideal having the same parameter being used by two parts of the same template, particularly when the less important bit is "winning" the battle to use that parameter. I'm not sure what is the least bad way to fix this, perhaps we need two new versions of FQS in {{tl|class mask}}, one where <ttcode>category=yes</ttcode> is assumed, and one with <ttcode>category=no</ttcode> implied, so that {{tl|class mask}} doesn't need a separate <ttcode>category</ttcode> parameter? (I did search the archives to see if this had come up before, apologies if it has) [[User:Le Deluge|Le Deluge]] ([[User talk:Le Deluge|talk]]) 19:55, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

:It's fine. The {{para|category}} parameters are used in the different templates in different ways and one does not affect the other. For example: {{tlx|WikiProject Law|2=class=category|3=category=no}}

{{WikiProject Law|class=category|category=no}}

:-- [[User:WOSlinker|WOSlinker]] ([[User talk:WOSlinker|talk]]) 20:12, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

::Ach, sorry to bother you like that. I've now realised that the sandbox version of the template had a not-very-obvious transclusion that applied a category and was ignoring <ttcode>category=no</ttcode>. My fault, apologies again. [[User:Le Deluge|Le Deluge]] ([[User talk:Le Deluge|talk]]) 00:44, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

:::Hmm, altering the WPLAW banner so that it would take an optional additional portal link was an idea I had, but I never got round to taking it live. Does the code you've now tweaked fix a problem I didn't even know I had?! Can you see anything stopping the revised code being used? Thanks for looking at this. [[User:Bencherlite|Bencherlite]][[User talk:Bencherlite|<i>^Talk</i>]] 08:30, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

::::I thought it was working, but now it's definitely not. I've tried to simplify it (take it out of the EW detection etc) just for now but it still doesn't seem to be picking up the <ttcode>{{{category}}}</ttcode> correctly. I'm very much a beginner at template synbtax, if anyone wants to have a look the relevant transclude is at [[Template:WikiProject Law/sandbox/portalbox‎]], the rest of it is at [[Template:WikiProject Law/sandbox]] and a test is at [[Template talk:WikiProject Law/sandbox ‎]] - one thing I did find is that it works much better if you test the version you've been editing in the sandbox rather than the "live" one that's not been touched!!! [[User:Le Deluge|Le Deluge]] ([[User talk:Le Deluge|talk]]) 22:40, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

:::::The reason was that you weren't passing the category param through from one template to the next template. I edited [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:WikiProject_Law/sandbox&diff=540396708&oldid=455414433 Template:WikiProject_Law/sandbox] to add that. I've also edited [[Template:WikiProject Law/sandbox/portalbox]] to make it use {{tl|WPBannerMeta/hooks/cats}} but you can go back to your original method if you want to. -- [[User:WOSlinker|WOSlinker]] ([[User talk:WOSlinker|talk]]) 23:33, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

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:I'd be interested in this too. The various templates used by WPBannerMeta account for a great deal of the top entries at [[Wikipedia:Database reports/Templates transcluded on the most pages]], and it would be a good chance for me to learn Lua. It looks like it will be a heck of a job though. I think I'll start small with things like [[Template:Portal]]. If anyone else wants to help, or has a grand vision of how to implement this, I'm all ears. :) — '''''[[User:Mr. Stradivarius|<span style="color: #194D00; font-family: Palatino, Times, serif">Mr. Stradivarius</span>]]''''' ^{[[User talk:Mr. Stradivarius|♪ talk ♪]]} 13:45, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

:: Me too! Perhaps we could also wait for WikiData transclusion to be enabled, and figure out if we can use it to store some of the primary data (per project ratings/importances?)? [[User:Yuvipanda|YuviPanda]] ([[User talk:Yuvipanda|talk]]) 02:37, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

:Please do so. This template seems to be really punishing the job queue for a while. '''[[User talk:Aaron Schulz|<fontspan colorstyle="color:blue;">Aar</fontspan><fontspan colorstyle="color:darkblue;">on Sc</fontspan><fontspan colorstyle="color:black;">hulz</fontspan>]]''' 23:51, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

* Consider below: "[[#Streamline to bypass /core for simple options]]" because rewriting so many parameter options in [[Lua script]] could take weeks of coding and testing. Unless weeks of testing of the Lua version were done, then the rewrite in Lua could break some banners, which would prompt some users to really complain. -[[User_talk:Wikid77|Wikid77]] 14:47, 25 May 2013 (UTC)