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== Classification ==
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==Move proposal==
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The result of the proposal was '''no consensus'''. [[User:JPG-GR|JPG-GR]] ([[User talk:JPG-GR|talk]]) 22:35, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
Would anyone be opposed to moving this article to ''"Charina reinhardtii"'', in line with the rest of the articles in this series? --[[User:Jwinius|Jwinius]] ([[User talk:Jwinius|talk]]) 09:19, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
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::* {{c|Crotalinae by taxonomic synonyms}}
::Mind you, many of those common name redirects are disambig pages; a percentage that continues to grow. There are also plans for the further categorization of the common names and those tags would not be the kind that you'd want to see in regular articles. --[[User:Jwinius|Jwinius]] ([[User talk:Jwinius|talk]]) 22:35, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
:::Not at all. You put the category {{c|Crotalinae}} on the redirect [[Charina reinhardtii]], just as is now done for {{c|Crotalinae by taxonomic synonyms}}. Perfectly legitimate, and solves the problem; just remember to put the category tag ''on the same line'' as the REDIRECT statement. [[User:Pmanderson|Septentrionalis]] <small>[[User talk:Pmanderson|PMAnderson]]</small> 14:06, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
*'''Oppose'''. Doesn't matter if it makes it more difficult in terms of editing - articles are named with readers in mind, not editors. [[User:Kafziel|Kafziel]] <sup>[[User talk:Kafziel|Complaint Department]]</sup> 07:23, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
*'''Support'''. I feel that if the article gets redirected here, it will not put off a reader from reading it and getting his information. [[User:AshLin|AshLin]] ([[User talk:AshLin|talk]]) 04:37, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
:Once again, whether or not it will "put off" a reader is pure speculation and is not at issue here. Naming conventions are ''policy''. Anything that doesn't demonstrate how it is appropriate ''according to that policy'' is irrelevant. [[User:Kafziel|Kafziel]] <sup>[[User talk:Kafziel|Complaint Department]]</sup> 06:04, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
*'''Support'''. This particular species is a perfect example of why [[Linnaean taxonomy]] makes more sense for animal articles. Common names are all too often entirely localized, inaccurate, out-dated (python?), or in this snake's case - in large number. Who is to say which is the "most common" usage? I've read and heard every variation mentioned in the article, and a few others that are not - I couldn't say any one is widely preferred over another. Though, I usually just defer to the article's original author when dealing with these kind of issues to prevent edit warring, unless it's glaringly wrong. -[[User:Dawson|Dawson]] ([[User talk:Dawson|talk]]) 23:31, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
*'''Weak oppose''', because it depends on evidence of actual usage, which has not been presented by either side. But we should use common names when they are common and unambiguous; if they are also wrong or misleading, ''explain'' why to the reader. [[User:Pmanderson|Septentrionalis]] <small>[[User talk:Pmanderson|PMAnderson]]</small> 14:06, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
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Placement of this species in the genus ''Charina'' is a mistake. Recent molecular work shows unambiguously that ''Calabaria'' not only belongs in its own genus, it belongs in its own subgroup, Calabariidae. See: Pyron, R.A., Burbrink, F.T., Wiens, J.J., 2013. A phylogeny and revised classification of Squamata, including 4161 species of lizards and snakes. BMC evolutionary biology 13, 93. The article needs to be revised accordingly. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/81.147.86.2|81.147.86.2]] ([[User talk:81.147.86.2|talk]]) 23:29, 20 May 2014 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
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