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== Why are two the most downloaded and used e-book reader software apps for iOS excluded? ==

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: Best regards, [[User:Philantrop|Philantrop]] ([[User talk:Philantrop|talk]]) 18:24, 30 May 2014 (UTC)

:[[User:AlexAtEbooks|Alex]], could you please drum up some media coverage of Ebook Reader, and post links here? For inclusion in this article the reader doesn't have to meet Wikipedia's stringent [[WP:NOTABILITY|notability]] guideline, but we'll need something to establish its existence and place in the market.

::[[User:Philantrop|Philantrop]], I'm the brother of Ebooks.com's CEO, and he's asked me to help Alex navigate our editing norms and [[WP:COI|conflict of interest guideline]], with which I'm very familiar. I can guide him but neither of us should make permanent edits to the article, especially involving Ebooks.com or its reader. Would you mind if we ping you from time to time to approve/make an edit? --[[User:Anthonyhcole|Anthonyhcole]] ([[User talk:Anthonyhcole|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Anthonyhcole|contribs]] · [[Special:EmailUser/Anthonyhcole|email]]) 21:04, 30 May 2014 (UTC)

:::[[User:Anthonyhcole|Anthonyhcole]], thanks for your openness. I appreciate it. I'm a bit cautious about this article because - as you'll have noticed - due to a single self-promotional entry there was a deletion request last year. Thus, I look into any app being added to verify it got significant and reliable coverage even though other criteria of notability can, indeed, be handled more leniently. As long as those two criteria are met, I'll gladly help.

:::Best regards, [[User:Philantrop|Philantrop]] ([[User talk:Philantrop|talk]]) 22:05, 30 May 2014 (UTC)

:::: [[User:Philantrop|Philantrop]], [[User:Anthonyhcole|Anthonyhcole]], Sorry for the delay. I have this coverage of the Ebook Reader app (under the sub-heading EBooks.com) http://scholarlykitchen.sspnet.org/2014/04/03/learning-to-read-navigating-the-ebook-reader-market/

::::I also have articles specifically for both iOS and Android versions of the app, but they are slightly older. (I guess it shows it's been around for a while). Is this sufficient to add the app to both this page and the Comparison of Android e-book reader software? [[User:AlexAtEbooks|AlexAtEbooks]] ([[User talk:AlexAtEbooks|talk]]) 09:54, 14 July 2014 (UTC)

:::::Hello [[User:AlexAtEbooks|AlexAtEbooks]], I'm afraid a single source (in which the reader is mentioned in a single paragraph only) doesn't quite suffice. You should probably take a look at the [[WP:NOTABILITY|notability]] guideline to get a better understanding. The age of the article(s) doesn't really matter - it's about ''significant'' and ''reliable'' coverage. [[User:Philantrop|Philantrop]] ([[User talk:Philantrop|talk]]) 17:09, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

::::::Hi [[User:Philantrop|Philantrop]], I have trouble digging up significant and reliable coverage for the apps. We have not been marketing them and have not been commissioning reviews. In spite of this we still have over a million downloads in Google Play (I have not checked the figures for Apple's App Store). I do have these:

iOS:

* http://blog.the-ebook-reader.com/2010/09/05/new-ebook-reader-app-for-ebooks-com-coupon-codes-for-ebooks-com/

* http://www.the-digital-reader.com/2010/09/07/ebooks-com-now-have-an-ios-app/

* http://jimlynch.com/free-apps/the-10-best-free-ipad-ebook-apps/

Android:

* http://www.droidreport.com/top-e-reader-apps-android-6800

Windows Phone:

* http://www.wptreasures.com/5-best-ebook-reader-apps-for-windows-phone/?PageSpeed=noscript

The app is also notable by association in that is is developed by eBooks.com which has been running for 14 years and is the oldest ebook retailer. And although we have not gone hunting for reviews we often get mentioned/listed when people talk about the major ebook vendors (despite being much smaller than the big name companies).

* http://www.which.co.uk/technology/computing/guides/how-to-buy-the-best-ebook-reader/which-is-the-best-ebook-store/

* http://www.futurebook.net/content/profile-stephen-cole-founder-and-ceo-ebookscom

* http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/17/cheapest-ebooks-amazon-ibooks-google-barnes-noble_n_1952736.html

* http://www.howtogeek.com/118138/the-best-websites-for-finding-downloading-borrowing-renting-and-purchasing-ebooks/

* http://www.koganpage.com/about/about-us/digital-publishing

* http://blogs.adobe.com/accessibility/2011/07/books-for-everyone-an-accessible-digital-editions-for-windows-and-mac.html

* http://www.berghahnbooks.com/index.php?pg=ebooks

* http://tech.firstpost.com/news-analysis/penguin-books-india-is-releasing-ebooks-by-indian-authors-30189.html

I hope this is sufficient? [[User:AlexAtEbooks|AlexAtEbooks]] ([[User talk:AlexAtEbooks|talk]]) 11:24, 21 July 2014 (UTC)

[[User:Philantrop|Philantrop]], for inclusion in an article, a fact doesn't need to meet the criteria in [[WP:N|our notability guideline]]. That guideline would apply if they were considering creating an article about their reader, but doesn't apply when just mentioning it in an article. From the guideline's nutshell summary: "The notability guideline does not determine the content of articles, but only whether the topic should have its own article." To be mentioned in an article, a fact needs to be [[WP:V|verifiable]] and relevant. I think [[User:AlexAtEbooks|Alex]] has established that their app is a thing, and belongs on this list. If you have any more problems with its inclusion, could you please let us know what they are? --[[User:Anthonyhcole|Anthonyhcole]] ([[User talk:Anthonyhcole|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Anthonyhcole|contribs]] · [[Special:EmailUser/Anthonyhcole|email]]) 03:04, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

:Hello [[User:AlexAtEbooks|AlexAtEbooks]], [[User:Anthonyhcole|Anthonyhcole]], I'm not entirely comfortable with your argumentation and the extent of the coverage on "Ebook Reader". Nevertheless, what you presented is good enough, I'd say. [[User:Philantrop|Philantrop]] ([[User talk:Philantrop|talk]]) 13:06, 26 July 2014 (UTC)

::Thanks [[User:Philantrop|Philantrop]]. I've made the edit, and then reverted myself [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Comparison_of_iOS_e-book_reader_software&diff=618563785&oldid=618563678 here]. If you're OK with that edit, would you mind reverting my revert (and reinstating the Ebook Reader details), please? --[[User:Anthonyhcole|Anthonyhcole]] ([[User talk:Anthonyhcole|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Anthonyhcole|contribs]] · [[Special:EmailUser/Anthonyhcole|email]]) 17:16, 26 July 2014 (UTC)

::Thank you for [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Comparison_of_iOS_e-book_reader_software&diff=618565217&oldid=618563785 that], [[User:Philantrop|Philantrop]]. --[[User:Anthonyhcole|Anthonyhcole]] ([[User talk:Anthonyhcole|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Anthonyhcole|contribs]] · [[Special:EmailUser/Anthonyhcole|email]]) 01:38, 27 July 2014 (UTC)

== Remove Stanza? ==

Should Stanza be removed now that it is no longer available in the App store?

It could be added to the Further reading section which lists ReadMill as a Discontinued e-book reader software. (Stanza was removed 26 August 2013, before ReadMill)

[[User:AlexAtEbooks|AlexAtEbooks]] ([[User talk:AlexAtEbooks|talk]]) 14:57, 30 December 2014 (UTC)

:No, [[Lexcycle_Stanza|Stanza]] still has its own article here so it should stay. [[User:Philantrop|Philantrop]] ([[User talk:Philantrop|talk]]) 12:59, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

Then should we add a column to distinguish which apps in the spreadsheet are still available to download?

[[User:AlexAtEbooks|AlexAtEbooks]] ([[User talk:AlexAtEbooks|talk]]) 15:16, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

Stanza no longer has its own article. The [[Lexcycle_Stanza|Stanza]] link now redirects to the [[Lexcycle]] article. So maybe it is time to remove it and add it to the Further Reading section as AlexAtEbooks suggested? [[User:Stargood|Stargood]] ([[User talk:Stargood|talk]]) 13:09, 3 October 2016 (UTC)

== Updated link for uBooks XL ==

Just to notify the author of this article -

uBooks XL has now a new website

http://nixsolutions-ubooks.com <small><span class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Iditsulkin|Iditsulkin]] ([[User talk:Iditsulkin|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Iditsulkin|contribs]]) 10:07, 23 May 2016 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

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