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'''From Graham Davies, November 2010'''

I hadn't looked closely at this article for a couple of years - sometime back in 2008. In the meantime it had got into a dreadful mess - too many cooks. The only way it can be rescued is to rewrite it from scratch. I am now in the course of doing this. Some of the existing material can be recycled, but a lot of it is irrelevant and out of date. I am taking on board some of the comments that other contributors have made to this page. It should not take me more than 2-3 weeks to knock this article into shape.

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Advertisement for the Rosetta Stone removed. There are many more CALL programs that could have been mentioned. Better not to list any commercial products, I think, unless cited as an example of a particular ''type'' of program, e.g. Sim City and Montevidisco. [[User:GroovyGuzi|GroovyGuzi]] ([[User talk:GroovyGuzi|talk]]) 11:23, 26 November 2010 (UTC)

:I was reading this article and looking for examples of CALL software. I put a link in the Rosetta Stone article pointing back to this one. A question I still have as a Wikipedia reader is what other CALL programs there are out there. I have no answer and was hoping some other editor did and would be willing to edit the article. [[Special:Contributions/199.245.32.210|199.245.32.210]] ([[User talk:199.245.32.210|talk]]) 20:06, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

The opening paragraphs of the article have been revised [[User:GroovyGuzi|GroovyGuzi]] ([[User talk:GroovyGuzi|talk]]) 11:47, 26 November 2010 (UTC)

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Martin Lapworth has contacted me suggesting that a section on authoring tools could be added. Sounds like a good idea. There is a module on '''CALL authoring programs''' (Module 2.5) at the ICT4LT site (which I edit):

http://www.ict4lt.org/en/en_mod2-5.htm [[User:GroovyGuzi|GroovyGuzi]] ([[User talk:GroovyGuzi|talk]]) 13:45, 2 January 2011 (UTC)

I have archived all the old discussions (August 2007 to March 2010) as they are no longer relevant to the article as it now stands.[[User:GroovyGuzi|GroovyGuzi]] ([[User talk:GroovyGuzi|talk]]) 10:10, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

Thanks to ClueBot NG for spotting serious case of vandalism by Supyanhussin and reverting to previous version [[User:GroovyGuzi|GroovyGuzi]] ([[User talk:GroovyGuzi|talk]]) 12:36, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

I’ve taken a close look at Supyanhussin’s changes to the article. Most of them date back to an older version. They are unacceptable for the following reasons:

(1) The changes represent an outdated view of CALL, predating the definition produced by Levy (1997).

(2) Levy’s broad definition of CALL is accepted by established professional CALL associations, notably CALICO and EUROCALL. Both associations accept conference papers and publish articles on the topics that Supyanhussin claims are outside the ambit of CALL. EUROCALL has SIGs dedicated to concordancing/corpora and to CMC.

(3) The changes damage the structure of the article as a whole.

(4) The changes make the introduction read like a polemic rather than part of an encyclopaedia article.

[[User:GroovyGuzi|GroovyGuzi]] ([[User talk:GroovyGuzi|talk]]) 15:13, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

I have restored the previous version once again. The reasons are given above. [[User:GroovyGuzi|GroovyGuzi]] ([[User talk:GroovyGuzi|talk]]) 10:39, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Further to the above, regarding Supyanhussin's criticisms of Levy's broad definition of CALL (which were added to the main article and then removed), see also Levy & Hubbard (2005), who raise the question ''Why call CALL “CALL”?'' A reference to Levy & Hubbard has now been added to the main article. Further discussion of what people understand by CALL might be useful but should be raised here before being added to the main article. [[User:GroovyGuzi|GroovyGuzi]] ([[User talk:GroovyGuzi|talk]]) 11:27, 4 March 2011 (UTC)

DITTO: == What is "concordancers"? ==

Clearly, at a minimum here some _links_ to the definitions of these highly technical terms will be required _prior_ to this "Corpora and concordancers" section, however, from an more general editing perspective, assuming in advance that this article could be made accessible to the non-specialist reader, I would have greatly preferred an introduction to terminology of CAL, and a discussion of these specific terms during their first usage (I.E., in a previous section); these terms do seem rather specialized to the perspective of experts in "CAL".

== What is "corpora"? ==

The text never defines it, and I have not been able to find it.

[[Special:Contributions/85.102.139.215|85.102.139.215]] ([[User talk:85.102.139.215|talk]]) 21:52, 26 October 2011 (UTC)

:I got this from dictionary.com, it is the plural of corpus which means

cor·pus

   [kawr-puhs] Show IPA

noun, plural -po·ra  [-per-uh] Show IPA for 1–3, 5, -pus·es for 4.

1.

a large or complete collection of writings: the entire corpus of Old English poetry.

2.

the body of a person or animal, especially when dead.

3.

Anatomy. a body, mass, or part having a special character or function.

4.

Linguistics. a body of utterances, as words or sentences, assumed to be representative of and used for lexical, grammatical, or other linguistic analysis.

5.

a principal or capital sum, as opposed to interest or income.

[[User:MilkStraw532|MilkStraw532]] ([[User talk:MilkStraw532|talk]]) 22:03, 26 October 2011 (UTC)

Unfortunately byki has been discontinued and is no longer available.

Many people still have copies on their laptop or computer.

Please share these with others who wish to learn new languages. <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/212.2.160.50|212.2.160.50]] ([[User talk:212.2.160.50#top|talk]]) 11:41, 23 August 2018 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->