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== Contested deletion ==
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Even if you can with a lot of tricks let nim code run on Android (after all it is a Linux OS), it is not enough to claim "Nim may be used to make an Android application". That is just false, an hoax. [[User:Macaldo|Macaldo]] ([[User talk:Macaldo|talk]]) 13:55, 5 May 2015 (UTC)
::Did you not see released Android applications programmed in Nim. If Apple says the app can be placed in the apple store what makes you say you can not use it for creating an Android Application? [[User:Itsmeront|Itsmeront]] ([[User talk:Itsmeront|talk]]) 02:04, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
:::...What is this drivel? You can use batch files to construct an android or iOS application, the question is- do you want to? <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/86.162.196.206|86.162.196.206]] ([[User talk:86.162.196.206#top|talk]]) 21:49, 19 February 2020 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
 
== Notability ==
 
The current article is ''extremely'' weak on sources to establish [[WP:N|Notability]], but here's at least one good source that can/should be integrated into the article somewhere: http://www.infoworld.com/article/3157745/application-development/nim-language-draws-from-best-of-python-rust-go-and-lisp.html
 
P.S. See [[WP:Bombard]]. Spamming a ton of poor sources into an article is not a successful way to keep it from being deleted. In fact including too many poor sources can backfire. If a reviewer checks half the refs and find none of them are good enough to support [[WP:N|Notability]], they may conclude the other half are equally useless and vote delete. [[User:Alsee|Alsee]] ([[User talk:Alsee|talk]]) 21:44, 10 May 2017 (UTC)
:It is now April 2021, and even though the two latest delete-nominations ended with keep, the article itself still doesn't convey notability. With only a handful of exceptions, the more than 50 inline references are either primary sources or GitHub repos. The only exception, other than two YouTube videos and events where Nim was talked about, is an ''InfoWorld'' article! The only reason I think it may have some notability is that apparently it has enough fanpeeps to get this huge article, that's full of excessive details, into Wikipedia... --[[Special:Contributions/143.176.30.65|143.176.30.65]] ([[User talk:143.176.30.65|talk]]) 13:08, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
:And if you look at the latest delete-nomination discussion, the only additional refs that people could find are either websites discussing Nim reaching version 1.0, or non-reliable sources. --[[Special:Contributions/143.176.30.65|143.176.30.65]] ([[User talk:143.176.30.65|talk]]) 13:14, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
:I agree, it fails to meet [[WP:GNG]]; Mostly. <span style="font-weight: bold" >[[User:Alexander_Davronov|<span style="color:#a8a8a8;">AXO</span><span style="color:#000">NOV</span>]] [[User talk:Alexander_Davronov|(talk)]] [[Special:Contributions/Alexander_Davronov|⚑]]</span> 06:59, 15 October 2023 (UTC)
 
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== Is this article "too technical?" ==
{{reply to|Humphrey Tribble}} Which concepts in this article are [[Special:Diff/1194058269|"too technical"]] for readers to understand? [[User:Jarble|Jarble]] ([[User talk:Jarble|talk]]) 18:27, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
 
:Firstly, {{user|Jarble}}, I apologise for leaving a a flippant comment instead of a more helpful explanation at the outset.
:The template's purpose is to flag "excessive jargon, without enough explanation of concepts and too difficult for readers to understand without a background in the field." So it can suggest an article could be improved or simply alert readers that it will be heavy going.
:[[Wikipedia:Manual of Style#Technical language]] governs. MOS recommends that the introduction, especially, should be understandable by educated people without having to follow links. But the introduction of [[Nim (programming language)]] has 21 links in only two sentences. That second sentence is also very long. It sounds rather like a manufacturer's description.
: [[Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not#Wikipedia is not a manual, guidebook, textbook, or scientific journal]] adds to MOS. The inclusion of numerous programming examples in Nim is certainly like a manual or textbook.
:Nevertheless, [[Wikipedia:Make technical articles understandable]] has practical suggestions for dealing with complex subjects.
:Let me know if I haven't explained it adequately. [[User:Humphrey Tribble|Humpster]] ([[User talk:Humphrey Tribble|talk]]) 22:58, 25 January 2024 (UTC)