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==CAT question==

I'm proposing Computer Adaptive Tests for final exams in my University, but I find some coarse reaction. They argument that this kind of tests punishes the most intelligent people and unmotivate them. Has anyone had an experience at implementing CATs for academic courses? -- Mario Montoya ([[User:200.23.145.23]])

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==Citations==

I think the writers of this article should not only cite the books they used in writing the article (which they seem to have done), but also that they cite which sentences/paragraphs came from which texts. As I understand, citing sources is not just listing the book, but also citing the source ''in context'', that is, in the article text. For example, in APA style, if I were to say "Computer-adaptive tests were first used in 1980," I would follow the sentence by citing the name of the author and the year of publication, like so: "(Michels, 2000)." In this article, nothing comparable to that is done. If I question the factual accuracy of a sentence or paragraph, I don't know which source to look at in the reference list. This is why many articles, such as [[Normal curve equivalent]], use a reference style that cites particular sources for the statements in question. That is why I added the <nowiki>{{references}}</nowiki> template to the top of the article. There may be references cited at the end of the article, but not within the text. &ndash; [[User:Chris53516|Chris53516]] ^{([[User talk:Chris53516|Talk]])} 16:38, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

:Chris, do you question the accuracy of any sentence in this article? I wrote most of the words in this article without reference to any work because this article relates common psychometric knowledge. There is nothing to cite (well, I should dig up the van der Linder citation for shadow testing). I disagree with your interpretation of the APA standards... feel free to cite the sentences in the 5TH ed. manual which supports your perspective. I might also be persuaded if you could come up with an example written in APA format (the Normal curve equivalent article is not). But bear in mind that APA manuscripts generally are research or review documents requiring support for assertions and conclusions--APA format was not intended for explaining common knowledge.[[User:Amead|Amead]] 20:20, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

::According to Wikipedia policy, information must be verifiable and we must cite our sources. An encyclopedia is not written from common knowledge, but from research. See [[Wikipedia:Verifiability]] and [[Wikipedia:Citing sources]]. We need to find better sources of verifiable information, other than a particular user's views, common knowledge, or opinion.

::I did not say that it needed to be in APA, that was just an example of a good way to cite sources. I used an example in a sentence above. I ''never'' said that the [[Normal curve equivalent|NCE]] article was in APA style, I said it used '''a''' reference style. The NCE article uses references that links a statement to a source listed at the end of the article. That was my point in using that page as an example. It uses ''another'' way of citing sources. I like and use it because it makes every statement verifiable by linking it to a citation or an online reference. Both APA and this "Wikipedia" style cite sources for every claim. And that's what we need to do in this article to make it better. So, stop removing the template until this is done. &ndash; [[User:Chris53516|Chris53516]] ^{([[User talk:Chris53516|Talk]])} 20:38, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

::Here are some quotes from the above policies: "Editors should provide a reliable source for material that is challenged or likely to be challenged, or it may be removed" ([http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Verifiability&oldid=90359217 Wikipedia:Verifiability]). I have provided the challenge. Also, "Any material that is challenged and for which no source is provided may be removed by any editor" ([http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Citing_sources&oldid=90359944 Wikipedia:Citing sources]). I'd rather not remove dubious content. &ndash; [[User:Chris53516|Chris53516]] ^{([[User talk:Chris53516|Talk]])} 20:50, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

:::Chris, you win. I don't give a crap about this article anymore. [[User:Amead|Amead]] 05:59, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

::::There's no need to be vulgar. I am simply trying to improve the page. &ndash; [[User:Chris53516|Chris53516]] ^{([[User talk:Chris53516|Talk]])} 14:27, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, [[User:Iulus Ascanius|Iulus Ascanius]], for adding references. I would like to convert the references to a Wiki-style so readers can directly link to the citations. I'll probably get to it this weekend. &mdash; [[User:Chris53516|Chris53516]] ^{([[User talk:Chris53516|Talk]])} 21:09, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

===Summary of 1 Dec 2006 edits===

Basically, I took all of the references added by [[User:Iulus Ascanius|Iulus Ascanius]] and put them in a Wikipedia reference style so readers can link right to the citation. It's a bit messy in code, but it looks nice in the end. I did some minor edits too and added some {{[[Template:unreferenced|unreferenced]]}} templates for sections and paragraphs still needing references, but basically that's all I did in the multiple edits I did today. See [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Computer-adaptive_test&diff=91462406&oldid=91225066 here] for the full edit history. &mdash; [[User:Chris53516|Chris53516]] ^{([[User talk:Chris53516|Talk]])} 21:43, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

== Moved page ==

Do NOT move this page without discussing it first. That is inappropriate. &mdash; [[User:Chris53516|Chris53516]] ^{([[User talk:Chris53516|Talk]])} 02:22, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

:Sorry about the move - didn't know the rules. I just believe it is more appropriate under the name "Computerized adaptive testing," as this is what is more often called. A quick scan of the references supports this. "Computer-adaptive" is not incorrect, just not as common. Anyone else have thoughts on that (though it doesn't appear that anyone else is contributing material at this point)?

:I've tried to add more technical information for readers who are interested in the inner workings. Some figures would be helpful, but I'll have to figure out how to do that first.

:-- [[User:Iulus Ascanius|Iulus Ascanius]] 18:11, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

::I '''oppose''' moving this article at all. Computer-adaptive testing is the accepted terminology that appears in research, especially item-response theory research. Any other terminology came from this terminology. &mdash; [[User:Chris53516|Chris53516]] ^{([[User talk:Chris53516|Talk]])} 18:21, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

:::It is hardly "accepted" as the term in research. A complete list of CAT research ([http://www.psych.umn.edu/psylabs/catcentral/]) has the term "computer-adaptive" used in titles only 43 times - "computerized adaptive" is used approximately 540 times! And it's impossible to argue with a 'sample' of that size. Computerized adaptive testing became the accepted terminology when Reckase's use of "tailored testing" died out.

:::Likewise, there is no hyphen in "item-response theory." It is [[item response theory]].

:::--[[User:Iulus Ascanius|Iulus Ascanius]] 19:07, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

==Moving?==

I never came back after the above discussion; I still think that the article should be moved to "Computerized adaptive testing." The website mentioned gives evidence of how much more common that term is. Anyone have an argument to the contrary?

[[User:Iulus Ascanius|Iulus Ascanius]] ([[User talk:Iulus Ascanius|talk]]) 18:45, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

:{{anote}} Since no one's objected in almost 2 months, I've gone ahead and moved it.--[[User:Aervanath|Aervanath]] ([[User talk:Aervanath|talk]]) 16:45, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

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==Computer or computerized?==

Should we call it computer adaptive testing or computerized adaptive testing?[[Special:Contributions/138.75.40.159|138.75.40.159]] ([[User talk:138.75.40.159|talk]]) 18:20, 3 August 2021 (UTC)