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== So does the title mean anything specific or w h a t...? ==

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Thanks for reading. Again, if I'm noticeably wrong about something or have missed anything, please let me know.

[[User:SomethingOfYore|SomethingOfYore]] ([[User talk:SomethingOfYore|talk]]) 14:36, 25 February 2021 (UTC)SomethingOfYore

:{{Ping|SomethingOfYore}} Thank you for taking it to the talk page! I agree, this is a very confusing circumstance. I am the one who removed them. I am not sure what version the person in the YouTube video has (I am guessing it's [https://storeus.the1975.com/collections/noacf/products/notes-on-a-conditional-form-clear-2lp this one]). I am going off of [https://storeus.the1975.com/collections/noacf/products/notes-on-a-conditional-form-2lp-picture-disc-signed-art-card this one], which includes the foldout posters for the songs ([https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/the19756319/images/e/e1/If_You%27re_Too_Shy_%28Let_Me_Know%29.jpeg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/1000?cb=20200715052228 here is an example]). My ''assumption'' is that "writer" and "lyricist" are used interchangeably by the band. Once again, I am just assuming, but based on my research bringing their articles to GA status, it appears almost 100% likely that Healy and Daniel are the only members who write the lyrics. Hann and MacDonald are credited as "writers", but I believe this is more about composing the song's themselves, not the lyrics. I have no way to prove this though. I think this is why there are so many different versions. But I am just going off the copy that I own. '''[[User:(CA)Giacobbe|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#3399FF"; font-size=3px:medium;">Gia</fontspan><fontspan colorstyle="color:#FF66CC"; font-size=3px:medium;">co</fontspan><fontspan colorstyle="color:#3399FF"; font-size=3px:medium;">bbe</fontspan>]]''' ^{[[User talk:(CA)Giacobbe|<fontspan colorstyle="color:#FF66CC;">talk</fontspan>]]} 17:08, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

==Genres==

{{Ping|(CA)Giacobbe}} I can't believe I have to explain why sourced genres should be included in the infobox. There are two sources for experimental and one source for pop, rock, and electropop. That's not a big difference. I say we list experimental first and the three genres after that. Why is that such a big problem? [[User:Bowling is life|Bowling is life]] ([[User talk:Bowling is life|talk]]) 00:28, 24 March 2021 (UTC)

:{{Ping|Bowling is life}} Thank you for taking it to the talk page, I honestly appreciate your dedication to the article and I'd much rather have a constructive dialogue and be able to talk this out. There are four sources that deem it experimental. If we include Fitzmaurice's review (one critic's opinion), then we'd also have to include [https://theface.com/music/the-1975-takeover-matty-healy-interview-notes-on-a-conditional-form?token=724 synth-pop, techno, indie-pop, folk], [https://uproxx.com/critic-polls/the-2020-uproxx-music-critics-poll/ art rock, nu metal, jungle, Britpop], [https://barricademagazine.com/rail/strongreview-the-1975-emnotes-on-a-conditional-formemstrongemnbspem lo-fi house, rock, ambient music], etc., since those all have at least one source. I'd be happy to work with you and find more sources to build a consensus, but I'm sure you can see the issue with giving undue weight to one reviewer. This album is stylistically all over the place (and the reviews reflect that, lol). '''[[User:(CA)Giacobbe|<span style="color:#3399FF; font-size:medium;">Gia</span><span style="color:#FF66CC; font-size:medium;">co</span><span style="color:#3399FF; font-size:medium;">bbe</span>]]''' ^{[[User talk:(CA)Giacobbe|<span style="color:#FF66CC;">talk</span>]]} 00:41, 24 March 2021 (UTC)

:: {{Reply|(CA)Giacobbe}} Sorry, I didn't realize what I added was already in the article. I also didn't realize how many other genres were sourced in the article. Plus, my argument sounds illogical. Sorry, for the edit war, I was wrong. I can't really work on this with you right now, but maybe later on a day where I have less going on. I do feel more genres other than just experimental should be listed. With this being in the process of becoming a Good Article, a consensus should probably be reached on the genres. I would be glad to help reach a consensus with the genres when I have more time. Reaching a consensus on the genres won't be easy per the reasons you stated. Reading the music section of the article makes my head spin. Lol. But maybe other broad genres this album may be described as such as rock, pop, electronic, and folk should be included, if we find more sources for them. [[User:Bowling is life|Bowling is life]] ([[User talk:Bowling is life|talk]]) 00:53, 24 March 2021 (UTC)

:::{{Ping|Bowling is life}} Dude no worries! I can totally see your perspective. Just hit me up on my talk page when you got time! We'll plan out something. '''[[User:(CA)Giacobbe|<span style="color:#3399FF; font-size:medium;">Gia</span><span style="color:#FF66CC; font-size:medium;">co</span><span style="color:#3399FF; font-size:medium;">bbe</span>]]''' ^{[[User talk:(CA)Giacobbe|<span style="color:#FF66CC;">talk</span>]]} 18:21, 24 March 2021 (UTC)

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